EPTOn August 07 2020 23:19 Cricketer12 wrote:
Who said Stats is going to rely heavily on adepts, or all-ins for that matter?
Who said Stats is going to rely heavily on adepts, or all-ins for that matter?
The hypothetical finals matchup being PvZ?
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WombaT
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The hypothetical finals matchup being PvZ? | ||
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yubo56
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Mizenhauer
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On August 08 2020 02:20 Mizenhauer wrote: Previews that don't talk about actual StarCraft II are back! And, I'm thrilled! it's a you special  | ||
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Cricketer12
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On August 08 2020 00:26 Wombat_NI wrote: The hypothetical finals matchup being PvZ? If you're asking if I assume Stats wins this, then no, not in a million years. | ||
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Cricketer12
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wouldn't it be released in 3 years if that was the case?  | ||
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Russano
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That said, Stats has a tendency to stomp terran favorites when he's counted out and lose horribly when people think it will be a good series. | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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WombaT
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On August 08 2020 03:42 Cricketer12 wrote: If you're asking if I assume Stats wins this, then no, not in a million years. To be fair if Stats can stick around for a million years there’s surely got to be at least a change of a swing in PvZ balance/meta to suit his style again. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
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big Terran brain can't be beat | ||
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Cricketer12
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On August 08 2020 05:09 Wombat_NI wrote: To be fair if Stats can stick around for a million years there’s surely got to be at least a change of a swing in PvZ balance/meta to suit his style again. I was talking about his match tonight vs TY, he beats rogue in the finals every time, but he doesn't get there | ||
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WombaT
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On August 08 2020 07:26 Cricketer12 wrote: I was talking about his match tonight vs TY, he beats rogue in the finals every time, but he doesn't get there #Believe I did miss a few years of action, that said of all the lopsided rivalries I can think of this seems one of the weirder ones. TY swatting Parting aside last two GSLs makes sense to me as Parting has a particular style that TY seems very good at countering with some prep time. Stats on the other hand is just the definition of a solid macro player. Especially when TY has got bopped by many a Protoss below Stats’ level over the years. Was curious as to thoughts on this, just one of those weird outliers, maybe they’re mind melded after KT and Stats got the raw end of the deal or is it just a style clash? | ||
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Fango
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On August 07 2020 23:12 BisuDagger wrote: I'm pretty neutral towards both these players, but I hate the thought of a PvZ finals that hinges on adept all-ins. TY advancing is the best option for an entertaining finals. I don't see a way any protoss can outbullshit Rogue in a preperation series now that Classic's gone. But if anyone could play macro and still win, it would be Stats. | ||
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WombaT
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On August 08 2020 08:11 Fango wrote: I don't see a way any protoss can outbullshit Rogue in a series now that Classic's gone. But if anyone could play macro and still win, it would be Stats. Imagine a back and forth series of macro games, Rogue sneaky aggression being both successful and deflected by Aiur’s noble shield and it ending in the decider with Stats doing the ‘Classic build’. Dear lord even this incredibly unlikely hypothetical is sending shivers down my spine. Whatever it is though, and yes he does pull the odd cheese off too but Stats just doesn’t seem to commit with the intensity that Classic did in his final year. A crude analogy indeed but Stats is a gentle man, a man who plays Starcraft in a gentlemanly manner, a manner that Artosis himself approves of. Stats cheesing feels like a pretty vanilla dude trying to keep up with a partner who has crazy BDSM desired. I mean sure he can put a brave face and try it, and she might have the odd good time but both participants know he’s not really into it and she should probably seek out someone a bit more freaky. | ||
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Cricketer12
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On August 08 2020 07:38 Wombat_NI wrote: Stats on the other hand is just the definition of a solid macro player. Especially when TY has got bopped by many a Protoss below Stats’ level over the years. aligulac.com You sure about that? | ||
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neptunusfisk
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On August 08 2020 07:38 Wombat_NI wrote: #Believe I did miss a few years of action, that said of all the lopsided rivalries I can think of this seems one of the weirder ones. TY swatting Parting aside last two GSLs makes sense to me as Parting has a particular style that TY seems very good at countering with some prep time. Stats on the other hand is just the definition of a solid macro player. Especially when TY has got bopped by many a Protoss below Stats’ level over the years. Was curious as to thoughts on this, just one of those weird outliers, maybe they’re mind melded after KT and Stats got the raw end of the deal or is it just a style clash? I would say Stats is an example of a solid macro player but not the definition. I think a definition would be more like "someone who generally doesn't lose early on and wins in big long games" | ||
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WombaT
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Well exactly? Probably didn’t phrase it well my confusion was why Stats has such a particularly outlyingly bad record against TY. TY dismantling Parting with some prep makes a lot of sense for example but Stats having such a bad record seems odd. Just using your date span for ease of comparison! Trap - Matches: 12-8 (60%) Games: 38-33 (53.52%) herO - Matches: 5-5 (50%) Games: 15-8 (45.45%) Classic - Matches: 3-5 (37.50%) Games: 12-17 (41.38%) Parting - Matches: 3-6 (33.33%) Games: 15-18 (45.45%) Stats - Marches: 1-8 (11.11%) Games: 4-15 (21.05%) We learn a few things here, TY is pretty good against Protoss for one in general to be fair. Still, Stats’ record is still weirdly bad. I’d also assume Trap is pretty good at PvT but also that TY in online cups is a less terrifying opponent than with some prep. User was warned for this post | ||
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