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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Honestly this is not the place to discuss the Taiwan conflict. So let me just say that most people (especially younger generations) from Taiwan will prefer to be called Taiwanese, which is also the case for Nice, who also prominently states it in his Twitter Bio. Which is why I wanted to point it out.
On July 05 2020 11:13 Zhangnneys wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>
Hopefully he finds a nice new home He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC. For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player. Taiwan is generally a part of China, right. We all know that.
And Taiwan is not generally part of China. That would imply that we are part of the PRC. Would you say Canada is generally part of the USA? Taiwan or ROC if you prefer that term and China are two seperate entities. Yes, there are historical ties but the PRC never controlled Taiwan.
Also in regards to this:
On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>
Hopefully he finds a nice new home He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC. For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player. For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai. There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is. But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one
PRC strictly refers to PRC for most international organizations. Taiwan is simply not represented in most of them due to political pressure from Beijing. And the term ROC is still unfamiliar with many people, usually Taiwan (ROC) works best.
If anyone really wants to discuss this further, you should probably just take this to DM with me. This is a discussion about Nice and his potential new team not for the Taiwan issue.
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On July 06 2020 17:07 ShiaoPi wrote:Honestly this is not the place to discuss the Taiwan conflict. So let me just say that most people (especially younger generations) from Taiwan will prefer to be called Taiwanese, which is also the case for Nice, who also prominently states it in his Twitter Bio. Which is why I wanted to point it out. Show nested quote +On July 05 2020 11:13 Zhangnneys wrote:On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>
Hopefully he finds a nice new home He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC. For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player. Taiwan is generally a part of China, right. We all know that. And Taiwan is not generally part of China. That would imply that we are part of the PRC. Would you say Canada is generally part of the USA? Taiwan or ROC if you prefer that term and China are two seperate entities. Yes, there are historical ties but the PRC never controlled Taiwan. Also in regards to this: Show nested quote +On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>
Hopefully he finds a nice new home He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC. For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player. For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai. There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is. But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one PRC strictly refers to PRC for most international organizations. Taiwan is simply not represented in most of them due to political pressure from Beijing. And the term ROC is still unfamiliar with many people, usually Taiwan (ROC) works best. If anyone really wants to discuss this further, you should probably just take this to DM with me. This is a discussion about Nice and his potential new team not for the Taiwan issue.
Yes, political issue is best not to be discussed in game forum, since most of the information provided by users (including myself) is not adequate, complete or unbiased. If any person really want to know more about this china / taiwan issue, it would be best to find more information via proper history resources (wikipedia, or news channel are not adequate for this kind of information [unless you are willing to invest a lot of time into watching / reading and verifying information form various news outlets]).
There are various argument(s) on whether taiwan is part of china or not (both for and against). But one thing for sure is that whatever rule it was based on, it almost always have exception / discrepancy / contradiction on the said rule. It is because of the true nature of international law, which is the law is laid down by the entity which have the most power, and a lot of time those are bs that fit the entity's need at the time.
It would probably be better if the mod can close this thread so that it won't devolve into a trolling / flaming thread.
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The first person to stand up and guide the topic came out and said that the discussion was meaningless. That is not funny.
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On July 06 2020 17:07 ShiaoPi wrote:Honestly this is not the place to discuss the Taiwan conflict. So let me just say that most people (especially younger generations) from Taiwan will prefer to be called Taiwanese, which is also the case for Nice, who also prominently states it in his Twitter Bio. Which is why I wanted to point it out. Show nested quote +On July 05 2020 11:13 Zhangnneys wrote:On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>
Hopefully he finds a nice new home He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC. For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player. Taiwan is generally a part of China, right. We all know that. And Taiwan is not generally part of China. That would imply that we are part of the PRC. Would you say Canada is generally part of the USA? Taiwan or ROC if you prefer that term and China are two seperate entities. Yes, there are historical ties but the PRC never controlled Taiwan. Also in regards to this: Show nested quote +On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>
Hopefully he finds a nice new home He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC. For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player. For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai. There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is. But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one PRC strictly refers to PRC for most international organizations. Taiwan is simply not represented in most of them due to political pressure from Beijing. And the term ROC is still unfamiliar with many people, usually Taiwan (ROC) works best. If anyone really wants to discuss this further, you should probably just take this to DM with me. This is a discussion about Nice and his potential new team not for the Taiwan issue.
Such topic should not be discussed here.
If you really care about Nice you should not bring this topic, Mainland Chinese has basically zero tolerance on Taiwan problem.
If Nice said anything like that in public, he can never find a GTC team.
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