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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 03 2020 11:27 GMT
#1
According to his own Twitter, Nice has left KaiZi Gaming. He was one of two acquisitions of high-profile Chinese players before last season of the GTC (the other being TIME).

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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5948 Posts
July 03 2020 11:51 GMT
#2
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55250 Posts
July 03 2020 11:53 GMT
#3
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5948 Posts
July 03 2020 11:55 GMT
#4
On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.


For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3952 Posts
July 03 2020 12:13 GMT
#5
Nice is pretty strong by himself and he would be an invaluable addition to any Tteam interested to join GTC. I'll be surprised if he doesn't get picked up very soon!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2453 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-03 12:25:02
July 03 2020 12:24 GMT
#6
Kind of expected that. Every other ctc Team will be more than glad to pick him up
He ll probably get a better offer as well.
MaxPax
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6029 Posts
July 03 2020 12:48 GMT
#7
I could see why as with TIME on KZ, the existence of Nice isn't a necessity.
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llllllllllIIIIIlllll
Profile Joined June 2020
Korea (North)26 Posts
July 03 2020 15:40 GMT
#8
back on TSG, probably
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llllllllllIIIIIlllll
Profile Joined June 2020
Korea (North)26 Posts
July 03 2020 15:41 GMT
#9
On July 04 2020 00:40 llllllllllIIIIIlllll wrote:
back on TSG, probably

ah wait, there is no TSG anymore, sorry x_x
언젠가 ...
EthanCheung
Profile Joined April 2020
15 Posts
July 03 2020 15:49 GMT
#10
He's a nice weapon against TIME in GTC, so i guess he won't be worrying about teamless
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2032 Posts
July 03 2020 15:58 GMT
#11
Afreeca Freecs or Jin Air, please grab him fast.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-03 17:48:22
July 03 2020 17:47 GMT
#12
-snip-
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10581 Posts
July 03 2020 18:04 GMT
#13
I love his style as a player, he will be picked up quickly I am sure of it.
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Zhangnneys
Profile Joined July 2019
United States3 Posts
July 05 2020 02:13 GMT
#14
On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.


For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.


Taiwan is generally a part of China, right. We all know that.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-05 02:34:02
July 05 2020 02:27 GMT
#15
It's complicated and gets companies in trouble all the time and/or celebrities blacklisted from China for having the Taiwan flag with them. Anytime a Company doesn't include Taiwan on maps of china they have to apologize profusely for it (mostly clothing companies I think.)


The short explanation is China claims it as part of China in spite of the fact they've never set foot on Taiwan and Taiwan generally sees itself as a seperate entity. there's only like around 15 countries that have official diplomatic relations with Taiwan because China refuses to have anything to do with countries that do and well China's economy is way bigger than Taiwan's obv. For international events such as the Olympics Taiwan enters either Chinese Taipei or China if China isn't entering themselves.


Hopefully I didn't mess any of that stuff up.
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rayl991
Profile Joined August 2019
Afghanistan80 Posts
July 05 2020 07:11 GMT
#16
On July 05 2020 11:27 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
It's complicated and gets companies in trouble all the time and/or celebrities blacklisted from China for having the Taiwan flag with them. Anytime a Company doesn't include Taiwan on maps of china they have to apologize profusely for it (mostly clothing companies I think.)


The short explanation is China claims it as part of China in spite of the fact they've never set foot on Taiwan and Taiwan generally sees itself as a seperate entity. there's only like around 15 countries that have official diplomatic relations with Taiwan because China refuses to have anything to do with countries that do and well China's economy is way bigger than Taiwan's obv. For international events such as the Olympics Taiwan enters either Chinese Taipei or China if China isn't entering themselves.


Hopefully I didn't mess any of that stuff up.


You forget the most important thing, both the PRC and ROC claim to be the real China. The split arise at the end of the Chinese civil war where the CCP won in the mainland while the defeated KMT retreated to Taiwan.
BonEsc2
Profile Joined July 2020
1 Post
July 05 2020 09:48 GMT
#17
On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.


For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.


For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1416 Posts
July 05 2020 19:13 GMT
#18
On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.


For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.


For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one


Completely agreed. Maybe better example would be if we called american players by state in USA they are reside in.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1558 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-06 00:17:44
July 06 2020 00:04 GMT
#19
On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.


For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.


For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one

Do people from Taiwan refer to themselves as "chinese" or would they say "I am taiwanese"? Or both? Which one is preferred?
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-06 00:37:32
July 06 2020 00:24 GMT
#20
On July 06 2020 09:04 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 18:48 BonEsc2 wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 03 2020 20:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
just saying he is a taiwanese player not chinese :>

Hopefully he finds a nice new home

He counted as Chinese for the purposes of GTC.


For the purposes of GTC, yes. But he still is a taiwanese player.


For most international organizations, PRC stands for the region that includes mainland, HK, Macau and TW
if you want to mention, Nice is from Taiwan, it may cause confuse to others, because no one would say Time is from Beijing, and iG.XY is from Wuhan, also Macsed from Shanghai.
There is also a simple way, you can say he is from ROC, which in nowadays, people can clearly know which region it is.

But the common sense in every situation, there is only one China, other it is called PRC or ROC, but only one

Do people from Taiwan refer to themselves as "chinese" or would they say "I am taiwanese"? Or both? Which one is preferred?



Wikipedia had a 2013 poll at 77 percent. the most recent poll I could find was from last fall and found the following.

The U.S.-based Pew Research Center found that 66% view themselves as Taiwanese, 28% as both Taiwanese and Chinese and 4% as just Chinese. The telephone poll of 1,562 people, conducted last fall, has a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points." 83 percent among young people though.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/poll-taiwanese-distance-themselves-from-chinese-identity/



as for skipping the history of it yeah I wasn't sure how much detail to go into. I'm not super informed an the whole real China part of it. I think the ROC was viewed internationally as the real China until the 70s and Nixon's whole visit to China and normal relations with the PRC led to the switch at least internationally.

I'm not from the area so I'm really not sure what the proper way to describe where he's from is. Regarding states in the US at least form my experience we don't really uses states that much to describe people unless it's like Hawaii which is very unique. personally I'd be more likely to use regions or areas (ie midwest/west/ north east/south.) Not sure how that would apply to China though
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