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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
May 02 2020 11:05 GMT
#41
On May 02 2020 11:24 pvsnp wrote:
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On May 02 2020 11:20 Mun_Su wrote:
On May 01 2020 19:40 pvsnp wrote:
After watching Inno beat Dark 2-0 in standard macro games an hour ago, I'm think it's safe to say he's not just bragging. The first game lasted 30 minutes and looked like Maru was playing.



Wait where was that ? Do you have a link please?


https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WZ4y1s7Yw

Another guy linked it above. Wardi couldn't make it. so there's only Chinese cast,



Oh didn't see. Thanks anyway!
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
May 02 2020 11:06 GMT
#42
On May 02 2020 19:06 Fango wrote:
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On May 02 2020 03:31 yubo56 wrote:
On May 01 2020 21:46 Phredxor wrote:
On May 01 2020 21:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 01 2020 20:56 pvsnp wrote:
On May 01 2020 20:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Ragnarok for Stats swap would have been contender for GOAT group of death.


Parting/Life/Inno/Flash was the true Group of Death imo.

https://tl.net/forum/news-archive/410623-wcs-kr-ro16-group-b-preview-code-a-recap-s1#one

Since that group actually happened, it definitely was a legit group of death. Thanks for sharing! I'm curious what other groups people think would be contenders.


The 2014 group of Zest, Dear, Soulkey and Maru would be up there. The 3 WCS Korea champs from 2013 and Zest who would go on to win that season.

I feel like these two are the obvious GOAT group of death contenders. I slightly favor the Parting/Life/Inno/Flash one simply because of how strong parting + life + inno were, that FlaSh seemed like a clear underdog (and you don't get to say that very often). From what I remember, the second group you mentioned, Dear + SK + Maru were all in somewhat inconsistent phases of their career at that point, so I didn't feel as hyped for that one, but that could be personal preference.

The PartinG/INno/Life/Flash group was the most memorable in terms of popularity and hype of the players.

But the Dear, Soulkey, Zest, Maru group was absolutely the GOAT group of death in terms of the level of players at the time. It just wasn't as hype because none of it's players were massive stars in foreign tournaments. Dear was never that popular, Maru and Dear barely played outside of Korea, and no one had quite realised yet that Zest was the best.

You had literally the champions of the last three seasons (Soulkey, Maru, Dear) and then Zest who won that very season. Not to mention Zest and Dear were the #1 and #2 protoss at the time, Maru was absolutely the #1 terran, and Soulkey had been the #1 zerg for almost an entire year.

edit: also massive disappointment that Dark didn't do the Rag/Stats swap. Having literally the two best terran and protoss of all time in the same group would have been historic. You'd be looking at 14 GSL trophies in one group, vs 2/1/0 in the others.



such good times, when Tasteless had somewhat a bit of idea of the game.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
May 02 2020 11:56 GMT
#43
On May 02 2020 17:41 Elentos wrote:
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On May 02 2020 16:29 Raxxes wrote:
What do you guys think?
Can Taeja get out of this.

i am mean summer is coming right?

TaeJa can maybe beat Scarlett but that'd be about it. In his current form he's out of his depth in this round.


You're almost definitely right, but Taeja is an anomalous case. He really can adjust on the fly in ways that I don't think I've seen from any other player. I wouldn't bet on him by any stretch of the imagination, but I also wouldn't count him out.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 02 2020 12:39 GMT
#44
Thanks for the writeup. I didn't have the time to check out the vods, so it's much appreciated!
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-02 17:18:33
May 02 2020 15:15 GMT
#45
On May 02 2020 20:05 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 11:24 pvsnp wrote:
On May 02 2020 11:20 Mun_Su wrote:
On May 01 2020 19:40 pvsnp wrote:
After watching Inno beat Dark 2-0 in standard macro games an hour ago, I'm think it's safe to say he's not just bragging. The first game lasted 30 minutes and looked like Maru was playing.



Wait where was that ? Do you have a link please?


https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WZ4y1s7Yw

Another guy linked it above. Wardi couldn't make it. so there's only Chinese cast,



Oh didn't see. Thanks anyway!

Inno killing it today, KZ almost win DPG in today's NEXT final. He does not want to go gentle into the good night in his last full year before military. Quote Xiaose: "you don't often see INno just typing 123 repeatedly in the lobby, feels like he is excited"
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
May 02 2020 21:53 GMT
#46
THE PICKS - (pick order in parentheses).

Group A: Dark -> (1) TaeJa --> (8) Scarlett -> (7, SWAP) Dear
Group B: TY ---> (4) Solar --> (9, SWAP) Stats -> (10) Cure
Group C: Trap -> (3) Bunny -> (6) PartinG ----> (11) soO
Group D: Maru -> (2) RagnaroK -> (5) INnoVatioN -> (12) Zest

If this still leaves you utterly confused, don't worry: that's how everyone feels.


If you swap the race icons of Dark and TY right it would be a lot less confusing!
Buff the siegetank
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-03 01:37:06
May 03 2020 01:35 GMT
#47
On May 01 2020 19:20 TL.net ESPORTS wrote:
As you delve deeper into any fandom, you discover there's an important line that ends up being crossed. It's the line where the surrounding talk, gossip, and human relationships of the performers becomes almost as interesting as the art itself (be it movies, music, or professional video games).

Agree! Great write up. Thanks for covering the group selections!

On May 01 2020 19:20 TL.net ESPORTS wrote:
• The top four players from the 2019 season of GSL are seeded into separate groups (in A-D-C-B order by rank).
• First four picks are made in order of seeding (A-D-C-B order).
• Remaining eight picks are made in "snake draft" order, starting from Group D (D-C-B-A-A-B-C-D).

On May 01 2020 19:20 TL.net ESPORTS wrote:
PartinG, selected to Group C, ended up having the final meaningful pick of the ceremony and was left to choose between soO and Zest. Picking soO would mean sending Zest to Group D by default,

On May 01 2020 19:20 TL.net ESPORTS wrote:
INnoVation said he was confident that no one would dare pick him, and that he was destined to end up in Group D as the last pick. That doesn't just signal internal confidence in his skills—it means he already knew everyone else was terrified of him.


There is one thing I don’t understand about the proceeding. It seems like group D should often be more difficult, since that group will get the left-over, least desirable player. But this is the group with the number two seed. Seems counter intuative to “penalizing” the no 2. Would make more sense to swap the no. 2 and 3 seeds having A-C-D-B.
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