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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 23 2020 08:32 GMT
#21
On April 23 2020 17:17 dbRic1203 wrote:
I realy like the format and the fact they can give out EPT points, realy well done
While I think it would have been quite a fun site note, if Creator would have gotten an invite as well, I dont get how people are actually making deal out of it. (or is that just trolling, not sure tbh)

I mean, I get it. Inviting the winner back is tradition in TSL, and hell, it even worked for TSL3 with the release of a whole new game compared to the previous edition.

But I also understand why it couldn't really be done this time. Former champion is banned, one guy's status is completely unknown, one guy is in the military, and only Creator is still around. So if you invite him based on a result from years back, and give the other three invites out on the basis of points you lose the consistency in your invite criteria and most likely can't give out EPT points anymore.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55476 Posts
April 23 2020 08:40 GMT
#22
On April 23 2020 17:32 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2020 17:17 dbRic1203 wrote:
I realy like the format and the fact they can give out EPT points, realy well done
While I think it would have been quite a fun site note, if Creator would have gotten an invite as well, I dont get how people are actually making deal out of it. (or is that just trolling, not sure tbh)

Former champion is banned, one guy's status is completely unknown, one guy is in the military, and only Creator is still around.

Hey don't you try and retcon one of the only wins in Creator's career.
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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
April 23 2020 09:21 GMT
#23
Noice!
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
April 23 2020 09:34 GMT
#24
Don't rob Creator, bros.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 23 2020 09:45 GMT
#25
On April 23 2020 17:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2020 17:32 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On April 23 2020 17:17 dbRic1203 wrote:
I realy like the format and the fact they can give out EPT points, realy well done
While I think it would have been quite a fun site note, if Creator would have gotten an invite as well, I dont get how people are actually making deal out of it. (or is that just trolling, not sure tbh)

Former champion is banned, one guy's status is completely unknown, one guy is in the military, and only Creator is still around.

Hey don't you try and retcon one of the only wins in Creator's career.

Ah yeah, got my champions mixed up (still called it Creator's title defence though, so I dunno). :D
But I'll be honest: while TSL 4 had a super cool intro and theme song and all that, for me personally it fell relatively flat compared to TSL 3 (now that was some awesome shit!). A top 4 of Creator, Life, KeeN, and Sting was kind of uninspiring. Fucking Jonnypatchzerg was the best foreigner in it.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 23 2020 09:49 GMT
#26
On April 23 2020 12:09 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2020 08:20 Xain0n wrote:
On April 23 2020 02:27 Ej_ wrote:
Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament.


Creator will be glad he won't carry the responsibility of being invited in his current state.

Korean qualifiers being harder than the actual tournament?

Yeah, players hate getting a chance to play in a tournament because of the responsibility that comes with it. Especially when not getting invited means a much more deserving player like serral gets to play.


This doesn't make sense, Serral is invited as #1 non korean.
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-23 20:00:53
April 23 2020 19:58 GMT
#27
If Creator gets an invite, thorzain better get one too.

Seriously though, someone earlier had a good point, didn't Nony get an invite into TSL 3 as TSL 2 winner, and they were completely different games.

Creator should get an invite.

*edit*

damn even mondragon and sen got invites into TSL 3 for being runner ups and third place in TSL 2.
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Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
April 23 2020 21:15 GMT
#28
On April 23 2020 05:48 digmouse wrote:
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On April 23 2020 02:56 Howard_Kao wrote:
On April 23 2020 02:48 Waxangel wrote:
On April 23 2020 02:27 Ej_ wrote:
Creator robbed of title defense. There is no way he qualifies now that it's 2013 again and the Korean qualifier is harder than the actual tournament.


wow what if we had just invited the top four of TSL4

Life got banned, sting retired, keen in military, only one to invite is creator who definitely won't get out of the korean qualifier. Maybe he will? Thats gonna be great.

And you have to go all the way down to 9-16th for players that are still relevant today which are Taeja and SpeCial.

We also have curious and kas who aren't so relevant but still there.
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StalkyBear
Profile Joined October 2019
55 Posts
April 24 2020 06:12 GMT
#29
I only have one thing to say. Gooooooooooooooo Bears, i mean Serral! (''')_( * + * )_(''')
derty555
Profile Joined September 2017
27 Posts
April 24 2020 07:29 GMT
#30
+1 To creator getting and invite, its not like he has fallen off or he is not playing, he was just in GSL, so he can qualify
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6832 Posts
April 24 2020 08:02 GMT
#31
On April 23 2020 06:30 stilt wrote:
With 4 invitations, I don't get why there is ept points after the hsc debacle.


GSL invites 4 people. GSL should stop giving points. It's not a fair system...
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 24 2020 09:39 GMT
#32
On April 24 2020 17:02 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2020 06:30 stilt wrote:
With 4 invitations, I don't get why there is ept points after the hsc debacle.


GSL invites 4 people. GSL should stop giving points. It's not a fair system...

On top of the smaller percantage of invites vs qualifier spots the main problem with HSC was that the points were announced after the qualifiers were done, while here it s announced way before, so its a comletly different story anyways.
MaxPax
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2747 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-24 10:59:36
April 24 2020 10:18 GMT
#33
On April 24 2020 17:02 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2020 06:30 stilt wrote:
With 4 invitations, I don't get why there is ept points after the hsc debacle.


GSL invites 4 people. GSL should stop giving points. It's not a fair system...


You are really comparing tsl and gsl ? X)
Wow so impressed by the depth of your amazing argument.

TL has pressured esl/hsc in order to prevent them to gain ept pts because of invites and now there 4 of them in their tournament ? There is indeed a total lack of consistency and fairness, thanks for pointing this out even if as you don't understand it, it is only by sarcasm.

Btw, your point is a obvious fallacy : I agree gsl might get ride of his invite but at least, it is an etablished tournament which is part regular saison since ages. In other hand counts tsl only 3 editions (the last one was from 2012 and was pretty meh), it's nice but for example hsc is way more valuable for the community so I don't get why it is favorised.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
April 24 2020 17:43 GMT
#34
Who gets the 8th bye? 3 qualifier winners+4 invites=7
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
April 24 2020 17:52 GMT
#35
On April 25 2020 02:43 ssg wrote:
Who gets the 8th bye? 3 qualifier winners+4 invites=7

Korea has 2x 3-slot qualifiers. So the winner in the 2nd Korean qualifier gets one as well.
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 24 2020 18:06 GMT
#36
Rogue declined even though he bombed out of GSL? Guess he just does not give a crap about the game anymore...
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6832 Posts
April 24 2020 18:11 GMT
#37
On April 24 2020 19:18 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2020 17:02 Harris1st wrote:
On April 23 2020 06:30 stilt wrote:
With 4 invitations, I don't get why there is ept points after the hsc debacle.


GSL invites 4 people. GSL should stop giving points. It's not a fair system...


You are really comparing tsl and gsl ? X)
Wow so impressed by the depth of your amazing argument.

TL has pressured esl/hsc in order to prevent them to gain ept pts because of invites and now there 4 of them in their tournament ? There is indeed a total lack of consistency and fairness, thanks for pointing this out even if as you don't understand it, it is only by sarcasm.

Btw, your point is a obvious fallacy : I agree gsl might get ride of his invite but at least, it is an etablished tournament which is part regular saison since ages. In other hand counts tsl only 3 editions (the last one was from 2012 and was pretty meh), it's nice but for example hsc is way more valuable for the community so I don't get why it is favorised.


Holy moly you took my post serious? Sorry, I'm not gonna argue this, even if your post is basically an invitation to do so
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
April 28 2020 19:28 GMT
#38
plz invite GoOdy and Nestea for a rematch

:D
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 28 2020 20:04 GMT
#39
No invitation to Creator is really bad
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