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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
March 01 2020 17:58 GMT
#21
The last patch, this patch, that patch, the next patch. ALL belong to Rogue. GG
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2020 17:59 GMT
#22
On March 02 2020 02:22 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 02:19 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On March 02 2020 01:47 Ej_ wrote:
It is a very peculiar talent of Rogue to make every final he particilates in shit.
And he wins them too!


It's like he saw what soO did and thought "Imagine that but winning" :D


Rogue is the exact opposite of soO, he seems to be working less than everyone else, stomp all of his final and he pretty much has no fans, and someday he's going to finally lose a final and everyone will be ecstatic lol.


If you're not a fan of Rogue it pretty much means you didn't watched the last 2 years of JAGW in Proleague. Definitely one of the most creative/entertaining players.
+ his wall of ro8 story is pretty cool.
Zest fanboy.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States677 Posts
March 01 2020 18:04 GMT
#23
Well, I spoke way too soon and I'm eating my shoe. I think Serral slept on Zest, thinking too much about his match against Maru or Rogue. Much like I did. Awh man. Well, 3/4 is still a great result... But yeah, Can't call him Flash after all.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2020 18:08 GMT
#24
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 01 2020 18:09 GMT
#25
On March 02 2020 02:30 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 01:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Rogue is simply the best player in the world, no doubt about it ! Congrats

Serral is still better

Serral is the greatest player in the history of ever. He's never legitimately lost a match. Also, SC2 didn't exist until 2018.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 01 2020 18:19 GMT
#26
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.
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gbrutuss
Profile Joined February 2020
9 Posts
March 01 2020 18:20 GMT
#27
People still prefer talking nonsense about who the best player is instead of just enjoying the games.

Fan of Rogue though, plays z in a very attractive way. I didn't expect him to win vs Maru whom I considered the big favourite to win it all.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 01 2020 18:22 GMT
#28
Zest v Serral was a fun series, Serral appeared really frustrated at the end.

Grats to Rogue, though. Crazy to think that he, Serral and Maru are all within 6k$ of each other in total earnings. That accounts for less than 1% of their totals. And all three of them were in the semis of this tourney.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
March 01 2020 18:22 GMT
#29
On March 02 2020 03:09 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 02:30 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2020 01:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Rogue is simply the best player in the world, no doubt about it ! Congrats

Serral is still better

Serral is the greatest player in the history of ever. He's never legitimately lost a match. Also, SC2 didn't exist until 2018.

Exactly. A lot of people don't realize that Serral actually invented StarCraft.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2020 18:24 GMT
#30
On March 02 2020 03:19 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.


Inno shares with Rogue the fact that he is very strong when his race is strong, not his playstyle.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 18:29:03
March 01 2020 18:27 GMT
#31
On March 02 2020 03:24 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 03:19 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.


Inno shares with Rogue the fact that he is very strong when his race is strong, not his playstyle.


yeah that's why he was the only T to get into ro16 during the blink era.
Inno has won titles almost every year. Patch Terran. You're pathetic.

It really looks like you started watching SC2 with LotV.
Zest fanboy.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 01 2020 18:29 GMT
#32
https://tl.net/forum/fan-clubs/382054-innovation-fan-club
https://tl.net/forum/fan-clubs/448777-serral-fan-club
https://tl.net/forum/fan-clubs/445621-rogue-fan-club

Blatant lies.

INno was relevant when Terran wasn't overall, you can't say the same about Rogue.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
March 01 2020 18:32 GMT
#33
JIN AIR!!!!! GREEENNNNN!!!! WWWWWWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGSSSSS!!!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2020 18:36 GMT
#34
On March 02 2020 03:27 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 03:24 Xain0n wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:19 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.


Inno shares with Rogue the fact that he is very strong when his race is strong, not his playstyle.


yeah that's why he was the only T to get into ro16 during the blink era.
Inno has won titles almost every year. Patch Terran. You're pathetic.

It really looks like you started watching SC2 with LotV.


This idea of patch Terran Inno is yours entirely, jumping to conclusions is pathetic, isn't it?
Inno, unlike Maru, tends not to shine when Terran is weak; this doesn't mean he never did, but his career as a top player(not merely as a sc2) is much longer than Rogue's, and more successful.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 18:44:30
March 01 2020 18:42 GMT
#35
On March 02 2020 03:36 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 03:27 imre wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:24 Xain0n wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:19 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.


Inno shares with Rogue the fact that he is very strong when his race is strong, not his playstyle.


yeah that's why he was the only T to get into ro16 during the blink era.
Inno has won titles almost every year. Patch Terran. You're pathetic.

It really looks like you started watching SC2 with LotV.


This idea of patch Terran Inno is yours entirely, jumping to conclusions is pathetic, isn't it?
Inno, unlike Maru, tends not to shine when Terran is weak; this doesn't mean he never did, but his career as a top player(not merely as a sc2) is much longer than Rogue's, and more successful.


Yup if you think that Maru shined when Terran was weak you're definitely a LotV only watcher.
There are probably less than 10 pro who were extremely good when their race was stupidly weak .Nestea, Mvp, MC, Polt for the first 5 years were good example at some points but it was easier for Nestea/MC since the game was young, I don't know who would be the best P against BL/Infestor in 2012 for that. Polt was the only Terran with one good run in the Blink era and I won't comment on PvZ imbalance by ignorance and lack of memory. Terran since then has always been ok and a race you could win with, with ups (late HotS mech vZ, dropping on colossi vP, Liberators bonanza and raven patch in LotV) and down but nothing that would cripple a top player into ro16/8.

Maru never had anything close to Polt's miraculous run at IEM Cologne which is probably the best showing of anyone fighting stupid imbalance.

That's Maru first win for you, definitely a not Terran favored era :D :D :D (and what a lovely 2rax in game 3)
(Wiki)2013 WCS Season 2 Korea OSL/Premier
Zest fanboy.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 18:58:32
March 01 2020 18:56 GMT
#36
On March 02 2020 02:59 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 02:22 Nakajin wrote:
On March 02 2020 02:19 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On March 02 2020 01:47 Ej_ wrote:
It is a very peculiar talent of Rogue to make every final he particilates in shit.
And he wins them too!


It's like he saw what soO did and thought "Imagine that but winning" :D


Rogue is the exact opposite of soO, he seems to be working less than everyone else, stomp all of his final and he pretty much has no fans, and someday he's going to finally lose a final and everyone will be ecstatic lol.


If you're not a fan of Rogue it pretty much means you didn't watched the last 2 years of JAGW in Proleague. Definitely one of the most creative/entertaining players.
+ his wall of ro8 story is pretty cool.


I was a soO fan boy and those two apparently had a grudge back in the days and Rogue was always beeting him, so I was hill equipped to love him haha. I also was salty every time people said Life was the best zerg
But in all fairness the round 8 + invicibility in bo7 in a really good and he do has some incredibly sick build
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2020 18:59 GMT
#37
On March 02 2020 03:56 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 02:59 imre wrote:
On March 02 2020 02:22 Nakajin wrote:
On March 02 2020 02:19 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On March 02 2020 01:47 Ej_ wrote:
It is a very peculiar talent of Rogue to make every final he particilates in shit.
And he wins them too!


It's like he saw what soO did and thought "Imagine that but winning" :D


Rogue is the exact opposite of soO, he seems to be working less than everyone else, stomp all of his final and he pretty much has no fans, and someday he's going to finally lose a final and everyone will be ecstatic lol.


If you're not a fan of Rogue it pretty much means you didn't watched the last 2 years of JAGW in Proleague. Definitely one of the most creative/entertaining players.
+ his wall of ro8 story is pretty cool.


I was a soO fan boy and those two apparently had a grudge back in the days and Rogue was always beeting him, so I was hill equipped to love him haha. I also was salty every time people said Life was the best zerg
But in all fairness the round 8 + invicibility in bo7 in a really good and he do has some incredibly sick build


Disliking a player because he keeps dunking your favorite player is one of the best reason to dislike someone :D
Zest fanboy.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15927 Posts
March 01 2020 19:00 GMT
#38
On March 02 2020 03:24 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 03:19 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.


Inno shares with Rogue the fact that he is very strong when his race is strong, not his playstyle.

and with Serral
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15927 Posts
March 01 2020 19:04 GMT
#39
On March 02 2020 03:42 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 03:36 Xain0n wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:27 imre wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:24 Xain0n wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:19 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.


Inno shares with Rogue the fact that he is very strong when his race is strong, not his playstyle.


yeah that's why he was the only T to get into ro16 during the blink era.
Inno has won titles almost every year. Patch Terran. You're pathetic.

It really looks like you started watching SC2 with LotV.


This idea of patch Terran Inno is yours entirely, jumping to conclusions is pathetic, isn't it?
Inno, unlike Maru, tends not to shine when Terran is weak; this doesn't mean he never did, but his career as a top player(not merely as a sc2) is much longer than Rogue's, and more successful.


Yup if you think that Maru shined when Terran was weak you're definitely a LotV only watcher.
There are probably less than 10 pro who were extremely good when their race was stupidly weak .Nestea, Mvp, MC, Polt for the first 5 years were good example at some points but it was easier for Nestea/MC since the game was young, I don't know who would be the best P against BL/Infestor in 2012 for that. Polt was the only Terran with one good run in the Blink era and I won't comment on PvZ imbalance by ignorance and lack of memory. Terran since then has always been ok and a race you could win with, with ups (late HotS mech vZ, dropping on colossi vP, Liberators bonanza and raven patch in LotV) and down but nothing that would cripple a top player into ro16/8.

Maru never had anything close to Polt's miraculous run at IEM Cologne which is probably the best showing of anyone fighting stupid imbalance.

That's Maru first win for you, definitely a not Terran favored era :D :D :D (and what a lovely 2rax in game 3)
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Korea_OSL/Premier

Maru reached ro4 GSL at the same time Polt had his run at IEM Cologne...
ro4 GSL>>IEM Cologne finals.

also this
and this
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2020 19:11 GMT
#40
On March 02 2020 04:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 03:42 imre wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:36 Xain0n wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:27 imre wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:24 Xain0n wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:19 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2020 03:08 Xain0n wrote:
Rogue is very strong when Zerg is strong, and he openly says that.
When Zerg is not strong, he drops 0-4 out of Code S.
You could forgive Mizen when he called him a patch Zerg because that was just the first patch in which Rogue shone.

In reality, Rogue is kind of a Zerg version of Inno, and he doesn't have many fans because of his extremely abusive playstyle. At his best he is much stronger than Dark in ZvZ and more aggressive and more clutch than Serral(of the current version of Serral, at least).


I think we can consider LoTV as a Z patch.
INno has a lot of fans.


Inno shares with Rogue the fact that he is very strong when his race is strong, not his playstyle.


yeah that's why he was the only T to get into ro16 during the blink era.
Inno has won titles almost every year. Patch Terran. You're pathetic.

It really looks like you started watching SC2 with LotV.


This idea of patch Terran Inno is yours entirely, jumping to conclusions is pathetic, isn't it?
Inno, unlike Maru, tends not to shine when Terran is weak; this doesn't mean he never did, but his career as a top player(not merely as a sc2) is much longer than Rogue's, and more successful.


Yup if you think that Maru shined when Terran was weak you're definitely a LotV only watcher.
There are probably less than 10 pro who were extremely good when their race was stupidly weak .Nestea, Mvp, MC, Polt for the first 5 years were good example at some points but it was easier for Nestea/MC since the game was young, I don't know who would be the best P against BL/Infestor in 2012 for that. Polt was the only Terran with one good run in the Blink era and I won't comment on PvZ imbalance by ignorance and lack of memory. Terran since then has always been ok and a race you could win with, with ups (late HotS mech vZ, dropping on colossi vP, Liberators bonanza and raven patch in LotV) and down but nothing that would cripple a top player into ro16/8.

Maru never had anything close to Polt's miraculous run at IEM Cologne which is probably the best showing of anyone fighting stupid imbalance.

That's Maru first win for you, definitely a not Terran favored era :D :D :D (and what a lovely 2rax in game 3)
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Korea_OSL/Premier

Maru reached ro4 GSL at the same time Polt had his run at IEM Cologne...
ro4 GSL>>IEM Cologne finals.

also this
and this


IEM Cologne, Feb 2014, Maru gets top 8 at the same time (probably his best showing against stupid imbalance as well)

Terran has never been super underpowered in LotV, you even linked a 2017 event which was Inno's best year ever probably.
(Wiki)2017 Global StarCraft II League Season 3
(Wiki)2017 GSL vs. the World
(Wiki)2017 StarCraft II StarLeague Season 1
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