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Czech Republic12115 Posts
On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote: I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out). Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2.
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On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote: I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out). Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2.
Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too
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Does this mean we can kill region lock?
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On October 16 2019 16:57 twndomn wrote: Just want to give context on the gaming industry and how it's relevant to Blizzard.
This guy is so full of himself it hurts
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Another nail in the coffin. It's gonna be a dramatic year to us.
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Wow, lots of doom and gloom in this thread. Maybe he did so well at his job he got noticed by someone else and took a better offer? Some new blood in the position could also be a good thing!
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On October 16 2019 21:26 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote: I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out). Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2. Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too
But for how long? Unfortunately the RTS genre is pretty dead these days. Warcraft 3 Reforged is probably going to be a big hit in the first weeks and maybe months but I really can't see this game becoming the next SC2.
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On October 17 2019 01:39 HsDLTitich wrote:This guy is so full of himself it hurts
He's been in the gaming industry, and work with Asia politics; are you in the gaming industry also?
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Canada8738 Posts
On October 17 2019 03:06 twndomn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2019 01:39 HsDLTitich wrote:This guy is so full of himself it hurts He's been in the gaming industry, and work with Asia politics; are you in the gaming industry also?
He is actually lol
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On October 17 2019 01:47 ElMeanYo wrote: Wow, lots of doom and gloom in this thread. Maybe he did so well at his job he got noticed by someone else and took a better offer? Some new blood in the position could also be a good thing!
Yes, many are understandably jittery. Let's all hope it is that simple and not a symptom of something else. Some variation of Occam's Razor could apply: the simplest explanation is likely the right one.
I'm glad Adrian Harris had the foresight to point out that he gave notice a month ago - otherwise some might be (rightly) having conniption fits. We all read the tea leaves to interpret the state of the union in different ways, but we all share a love for the game.
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On October 17 2019 02:07 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2019 21:26 Harris1st wrote:On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote: I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out). Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2. Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too But for how long? Unfortunately the RTS genre is pretty dead these days. Warcraft 3 Reforged is probably going to be a big hit in the first weeks and maybe months but I really can't see this game becoming the next SC2.
The only problem RTS has, it translates bad to console. People claimed RTS is dead for a while now and here we are. Still loving RTS
Besides Blizz there are a few interesting projects developed right now. Out of the top of head there is Iron Harvest and A year of Rain
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China6270 Posts
Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner.
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Czech Republic12115 Posts
On October 17 2019 17:43 digmouse wrote: Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner. Uh, no? While I don't think that W3R will overcome SC2(unless Blizzard invests some money) I don't think that removing support off SC2 will kill it and all the e-sport will be suddenly dead. Sure, it will be way smaller, but dead? Don't think so, BW didn't die either...
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China6270 Posts
On October 17 2019 19:24 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2019 17:43 digmouse wrote: Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner. Uh, no? While I don't think that W3R will overcome SC2(unless Blizzard invests some money) I don't think that removing support off SC2 will kill it and all the e-sport will be suddenly dead. Sure, it will be way smaller, but dead? Don't think so, BW didn't die either... It won't be dead for sure. The Chinese scene will surely support it further down the line, but like BW currently, it won't be the same in terms of mainstream attention, financial investment and long term sustainability. My point is W3R isn't going to be the successor of SC2 as a premium tier esports RTS that Blizzard very actively promotes and supports long term. I do, 100% hope to be proven wrong.
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Czech Republic12115 Posts
On October 17 2019 19:38 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2019 19:24 deacon.frost wrote:On October 17 2019 17:43 digmouse wrote: Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner. Uh, no? While I don't think that W3R will overcome SC2(unless Blizzard invests some money) I don't think that removing support off SC2 will kill it and all the e-sport will be suddenly dead. Sure, it will be way smaller, but dead? Don't think so, BW didn't die either... It won't be dead for sure. The Chinese scene will surely support it further down the line, but like BW currently, it won't be the same in terms of mainstream attention, financial investment and long term sustainability. My point is W3R isn't going to be the successor of SC2 as a premium tier esports RTS that Blizzard very actively promotes and supports long term. I do, 100% hope to be proven wrong. Oh yeah, in that sense I agree.
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On October 17 2019 17:12 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2019 02:07 JoeCool wrote:On October 16 2019 21:26 Harris1st wrote:On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote: I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out). Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2. Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too But for how long? Unfortunately the RTS genre is pretty dead these days. Warcraft 3 Reforged is probably going to be a big hit in the first weeks and maybe months but I really can't see this game becoming the next SC2. The only problem RTS has, it translates bad to console. People claimed RTS is dead for a while now and here we are. Still loving RTS
Of course there will be RTS games, no doubt about that. I was referring to a competitive scene. With players traveling around the globe, team-leagues etc. I believe that the competitive scene in the genre is pretty dead, aside from a couple of community-cups here and there.
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I can only asume that the business-lizzards are about or at least think about to cut WCS like they did with heroes. Progaming fto them is promotion. And why should they promote a game that has no competitors but the remake of a 2000s game by blizzard ?
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On October 20 2019 01:25 KT_Elwood wrote: I can only asume that the business-lizzards are about or at least think about to cut WCS like they did with heroes. Progaming fto them is promotion. And why should they promote a game that has no competitors but the remake of a 2000s game by blizzard ? It's not looking good, but several signs point towards Blizz not giving up on SC entirely. I think 2020 is still good / maybe some budget cuts. But I would still be surprised that if they would just give the Hots treatment to the SC e-sport scene. Not impossible, but at this point i would say not that likely.
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