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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
October 15 2019 05:16 GMT
#1


WCS Commissioner Adrian Harris announced via Twitter that he had left Blizzard Entertainment as of Friday.
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Bomzj
Profile Joined July 2018
Belarus24 Posts
October 15 2019 06:22 GMT
#2
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 15 2019 06:28 GMT
#3
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.
her0craft
Profile Joined June 2019
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-15 06:35:12
October 15 2019 06:28 GMT
#4
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


The first sentence said he put in his notice a month ago.
eh, why do I get the vibe that you are one of those people who want a Vietnam war or something worse to happen..




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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
October 15 2019 06:32 GMT
#5
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.
her0craft
Profile Joined June 2019
11 Posts
October 15 2019 06:35 GMT
#6
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.

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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-15 06:40:36
October 15 2019 06:38 GMT
#7
Definitely sad to see him go, it is a "positive" that he left his notice before all this drama with China

Best of luck in the future
Mine gas, build tanks.
Ronin2011
Profile Joined November 2012
Greece30 Posts
October 15 2019 08:26 GMT
#8
On October 15 2019 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.


People only see what they wanna see..

On October 15 2019 15:35 her0craft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.


Not humans in general but those snowflake millennials for sure.


User was warned for this post
The time of Reckoning has come!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
October 15 2019 09:35 GMT
#9
On October 15 2019 17:26 Ronin2011 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.


People only see what they wanna see..

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 15:35 her0craft wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.


Not humans in general but those snowflake millennials for sure.


The inventor of the term snowflakes was a gay millennial writer, who coined it to mock right wing asshats.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 15 2019 10:00 GMT
#10
This is looking worse and worse. By now my main hope is that blizzard has decided to outsource the whole thing to ESL, which is why they don't need people at blizzard anymore.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 15 2019 11:09 GMT
#11
On October 15 2019 17:26 Ronin2011 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.


People only see what they wanna see..

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 15:35 her0craft wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.


Not humans in general but those snowflake millennials for sure.


Are you guys for real?


Anyhow, it seems to be a big loss. With Marc Olbertz and Kim Phan also leaving the boat this year on top of a bunch of community manager, it's gonna be hard to find someone with experience to stear the boat.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
October 15 2019 11:24 GMT
#12
On October 15 2019 20:09 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 17:26 Ronin2011 wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.


People only see what they wanna see..

On October 15 2019 15:35 her0craft wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.


Not humans in general but those snowflake millennials for sure.


Are you guys for real?


Anyhow, it seems to be a big loss. With Marc Olbertz and Kim Phan also leaving the boat this year on top of a bunch of community manager, it's gonna be hard to find someone with experience to stear the boat.

Don't worry. SC2 will be made open source and everyone will switch to Starbow.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7075 Posts
October 15 2019 11:29 GMT
#13
On October 15 2019 20:09 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 17:26 Ronin2011 wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.


People only see what they wanna see..

On October 15 2019 15:35 her0craft wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.


Not humans in general but those snowflake millennials for sure.


Are you guys for real?


Anyhow, it seems to be a big loss. With Marc Olbertz and Kim Phan also leaving the boat this year on top of a bunch of community manager, it's gonna be hard to find someone with experience to stear the boat.


Maybe it's an opening for casters and organizers. Wardi / Rifkin/ ZG / Rotti, get your hats in there!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 15 2019 12:00 GMT
#14
On October 15 2019 20:29 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 20:09 Nakajin wrote:
On October 15 2019 17:26 Ronin2011 wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.


People only see what they wanna see..

On October 15 2019 15:35 her0craft wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.


Not humans in general but those snowflake millennials for sure.


Are you guys for real?


Anyhow, it seems to be a big loss. With Marc Olbertz and Kim Phan also leaving the boat this year on top of a bunch of community manager, it's gonna be hard to find someone with experience to stear the boat.


Maybe it's an opening for casters and organizers. Wardi / Rifkin/ ZG / Rotti, get your hats in there!


Rifkin to lead WCS 2020 - All casters to follow a new formation called "Community casting 101: How to win an argument vs Twitch chat"
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
October 15 2019 12:11 GMT
#15
On October 15 2019 21:00 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 20:29 Harris1st wrote:
On October 15 2019 20:09 Nakajin wrote:
On October 15 2019 17:26 Ronin2011 wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:22 Bomzj wrote:
Definitely something not good happened to him forcing leave right before upcoming WCS in two weeks.


He gave notice a month ago which hopefully means that he just found a new opportunity rather than anything else. Of course it definitely hurts for WCS to lose one of its 'champions'.


People only see what they wanna see..

On October 15 2019 15:35 her0craft wrote:
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


so sad that I cannot tell if you're joking or not. humans are dumb asf.


Not humans in general but those snowflake millennials for sure.


Are you guys for real?


Anyhow, it seems to be a big loss. With Marc Olbertz and Kim Phan also leaving the boat this year on top of a bunch of community manager, it's gonna be hard to find someone with experience to stear the boat.


Maybe it's an opening for casters and organizers. Wardi / Rifkin/ ZG / Rotti, get your hats in there!


Rifkin to lead WCS 2020 - All casters to follow a new formation called "Community casting 101: How to win an argument vs Twitch chat"

He will also form the most controversial caster crew featuring: "Rifkin, Destiny, and Avilo"
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1036 Posts
October 15 2019 16:02 GMT
#16
Warcraft chessfight tactics incoming.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
DubiousC2
Profile Joined June 2016
129 Posts
October 15 2019 16:06 GMT
#17
Looking at his LinkedIn profile shows he moved to a different company. Still doesn't sound reassuring though, as he probably expects SC2 e-sports to either cease its operations completely or be cut down significantly in 2020.
Manner MULE /dance
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
October 15 2019 17:16 GMT
#18
On October 16 2019 01:06 DubiousC2 wrote:
Looking at his LinkedIn profile shows he moved to a different company. Still doesn't sound reassuring though, as he probably expects SC2 e-sports to either cease its operations completely or be cut down significantly in 2020.


To be fair, that's pretty much what everyone expects. I highly doubt that we'll have another year of WCS/GSL/Blizzcon.
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
October 15 2019 17:23 GMT
#19
On October 15 2019 15:32 MockHamill wrote:
First China and now this. Good that that I decided not to go pro and stay in diamond league for now.


Hahahahaha, I like it.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 15 2019 20:25 GMT
#20
Allot of key people in Esports ( none gaming developers) has either jumped ship or been fired. Guess Blizzard really is cutting down on Esports content in general throughout the entire company.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-16 05:36:21
October 16 2019 05:03 GMT
#21
Is this the guy Artosis referred to on the Pylon show, after the Blizzard firings/quitting, when he said " If [.....name] leaves too, I dont know what will we do"?
EDIT:
Yeha, i think he is

11:00
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
October 16 2019 07:51 GMT
#22
On October 15 2019 19:00 sneakyfox wrote:
This is looking worse and worse. By now my main hope is that blizzard has decided to outsource the whole thing to ESL, which is why they don't need people at blizzard anymore.


If ESL comes back in SCBW it is the end.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
October 16 2019 07:57 GMT
#23
Just want to give context on the gaming industry and how it's relevant to Blizzard.


"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
October 16 2019 08:40 GMT
#24
The rats are fleeing the sinking ship
Cant catch me. You're wasting your time
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7075 Posts
October 16 2019 08:50 GMT
#25
I think with this Warchest business, competitive SC2 will stay afloat at least one more year.

Then maybe WC3 Reforged will take over the RTS section in esports. We'll see
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
October 16 2019 09:02 GMT
#26
I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out).
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 16 2019 09:11 GMT
#27
On October 16 2019 16:51 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 19:00 sneakyfox wrote:
This is looking worse and worse. By now my main hope is that blizzard has decided to outsource the whole thing to ESL, which is why they don't need people at blizzard anymore.


If ESL comes back in SCBW it is the end.

I don't know about running tournaments for a game played by 20 people.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
October 16 2019 10:34 GMT
#28
On October 16 2019 05:25 Integra wrote:
Allot of key people in Esports ( none gaming developers) has either jumped ship or been fired. Guess Blizzard really is cutting down on Esports content in general throughout the entire company.


Esport has been pretty much moved to Activision with the moves at Blizzard + shutting down MLG.
Zest fanboy.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 16 2019 10:41 GMT
#29
On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote:
I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out).

Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7075 Posts
October 16 2019 12:26 GMT
#30
On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote:
I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out).

Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2.


Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 16 2019 16:24 GMT
#31
Does this mean we can kill region lock?
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
October 16 2019 16:39 GMT
#32
On October 16 2019 16:57 twndomn wrote:
Just want to give context on the gaming industry and how it's relevant to Blizzard.

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1181736075775004672


This guy is so full of himself it hurts
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
dalecooper
Profile Joined July 2019
56 Posts
October 16 2019 16:42 GMT
#33
Another nail in the coffin. It's gonna be a dramatic year to us.
pointless
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
October 16 2019 16:47 GMT
#34
Wow, lots of doom and gloom in this thread. Maybe he did so well at his job he got noticed by someone else and took a better offer? Some new blood in the position could also be a good thing!
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
October 16 2019 17:07 GMT
#35
On October 16 2019 21:26 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote:
I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out).

Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2.


Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too


But for how long? Unfortunately the RTS genre is pretty dead these days. Warcraft 3 Reforged is probably going to be a big hit in the first weeks and maybe months but I really can't see this game becoming the next SC2.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
October 16 2019 18:06 GMT
#36
On October 17 2019 01:39 HsDLTitich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2019 16:57 twndomn wrote:
Just want to give context on the gaming industry and how it's relevant to Blizzard.

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1181736075775004672


This guy is so full of himself it hurts


He's been in the gaming industry, and work with Asia politics; are you in the gaming industry also?
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 16 2019 18:27 GMT
#37
On October 17 2019 03:06 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2019 01:39 HsDLTitich wrote:
On October 16 2019 16:57 twndomn wrote:
Just want to give context on the gaming industry and how it's relevant to Blizzard.

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1181736075775004672


This guy is so full of himself it hurts


He's been in the gaming industry, and work with Asia politics; are you in the gaming industry also?


He is actually lol
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
ZugzwangSC
Profile Joined October 2019
87 Posts
October 16 2019 18:45 GMT
#38
On October 17 2019 01:47 ElMeanYo wrote:
Wow, lots of doom and gloom in this thread. Maybe he did so well at his job he got noticed by someone else and took a better offer? Some new blood in the position could also be a good thing!


Yes, many are understandably jittery. Let's all hope it is that simple and not a symptom of something else. Some variation of Occam's Razor could apply: the simplest explanation is likely the right one.

I'm glad Adrian Harris had the foresight to point out that he gave notice a month ago - otherwise some might be (rightly) having conniption fits. We all read the tea leaves to interpret the state of the union in different ways, but we all share a love for the game.
www.youtube.com/c/zugzwangstarcraft
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7075 Posts
October 17 2019 08:12 GMT
#39
On October 17 2019 02:07 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2019 21:26 Harris1st wrote:
On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote:
I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out).

Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2.


Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too


But for how long? Unfortunately the RTS genre is pretty dead these days. Warcraft 3 Reforged is probably going to be a big hit in the first weeks and maybe months but I really can't see this game becoming the next SC2.


The only problem RTS has, it translates bad to console. People claimed RTS is dead for a while now and here we are. Still loving RTS

Besides Blizz there are a few interesting projects developed right now. Out of the top of head there is Iron Harvest and A year of Rain
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
October 17 2019 08:43 GMT
#40
Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 17 2019 10:24 GMT
#41
On October 17 2019 17:43 digmouse wrote:
Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner.

Uh, no? While I don't think that W3R will overcome SC2(unless Blizzard invests some money) I don't think that removing support off SC2 will kill it and all the e-sport will be suddenly dead. Sure, it will be way smaller, but dead? Don't think so, BW didn't die either...
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-17 10:39:41
October 17 2019 10:38 GMT
#42
On October 17 2019 19:24 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2019 17:43 digmouse wrote:
Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner.

Uh, no? While I don't think that W3R will overcome SC2(unless Blizzard invests some money) I don't think that removing support off SC2 will kill it and all the e-sport will be suddenly dead. Sure, it will be way smaller, but dead? Don't think so, BW didn't die either...

It won't be dead for sure. The Chinese scene will surely support it further down the line, but like BW currently, it won't be the same in terms of mainstream attention, financial investment and long term sustainability. My point is W3R isn't going to be the successor of SC2 as a premium tier esports RTS that Blizzard very actively promotes and supports long term. I do, 100% hope to be proven wrong.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 17 2019 11:16 GMT
#43
On October 17 2019 19:38 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2019 19:24 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 17 2019 17:43 digmouse wrote:
Let's be real, W3R isn't going to suddenly light everything on fire. It's way more likely that SC2 being the final bastion of RTS esports before it inevitably fizzles out in the next year or two, if not even sooner.

Uh, no? While I don't think that W3R will overcome SC2(unless Blizzard invests some money) I don't think that removing support off SC2 will kill it and all the e-sport will be suddenly dead. Sure, it will be way smaller, but dead? Don't think so, BW didn't die either...

It won't be dead for sure. The Chinese scene will surely support it further down the line, but like BW currently, it won't be the same in terms of mainstream attention, financial investment and long term sustainability. My point is W3R isn't going to be the successor of SC2 as a premium tier esports RTS that Blizzard very actively promotes and supports long term. I do, 100% hope to be proven wrong.

Oh yeah, in that sense I agree.
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JoeCool
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Germany2520 Posts
October 17 2019 12:11 GMT
#44
On October 17 2019 17:12 Harris1st wrote:
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On October 17 2019 02:07 JoeCool wrote:
On October 16 2019 21:26 Harris1st wrote:
On October 16 2019 19:41 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 16 2019 18:02 Pr0wler wrote:
I expect WCS to end this year and W3 Reforged will take over as soon as it's out(if it ever gets out).

Doubt that W3 Reforged will be a substitute for SC2.


Depends very much on Blizzard I think. If they announce a WCS'ish system with WCS'ish prizepools, a lot of players would be tempted to switch and probably other sponsors then too


But for how long? Unfortunately the RTS genre is pretty dead these days. Warcraft 3 Reforged is probably going to be a big hit in the first weeks and maybe months but I really can't see this game becoming the next SC2.


The only problem RTS has, it translates bad to console. People claimed RTS is dead for a while now and here we are. Still loving RTS


Of course there will be RTS games, no doubt about that. I was referring to a competitive scene. With players traveling around the globe, team-leagues etc. I believe that the competitive scene in the genre is pretty dead, aside from a couple of community-cups here and there.
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Germany1113 Posts
October 19 2019 16:25 GMT
#45
I can only asume that the business-lizzards are about or at least think about to cut WCS like they did with heroes.
Progaming fto them is promotion. And why should they promote a game that has no competitors but the remake of a 2000s game by blizzard ?
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October 19 2019 19:53 GMT
#46
On October 20 2019 01:25 KT_Elwood wrote:
I can only asume that the business-lizzards are about or at least think about to cut WCS like they did with heroes.
Progaming fto them is promotion. And why should they promote a game that has no competitors but the remake of a 2000s game by blizzard ?

It's not looking good, but several signs point towards Blizz not giving up on SC entirely. I think 2020 is still good / maybe some budget cuts.
But I would still be surprised that if they would just give the Hots treatment to the SC e-sport scene. Not impossible, but at this point i would say not that likely.
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