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Rogue defeats Dark, advances to Code S finals

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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 19 2019 00:36 GMT
#16
On September 19 2019 04:07 BisuDagger wrote:
If trap wins the we get a new GSL winner. Which also means we are closer to having all-GSL winner round of eights in the future.


Last season we had 7/8 player who had played for the title of world champion at some point.
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serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
September 19 2019 01:57 GMT
#17
On September 19 2019 05:53 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2019 04:32 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 19 2019 04:15 Nostromo1 wrote:
On September 19 2019 04:07 BisuDagger wrote:
If trap wins the we get a new GSL winner. Which also means we are closer to having all-GSL winner round of eights in the future.


If Rogue wins he too would also be a first time winner as well here's to hoping that Trap can beat Maru I would prefer to see Rogue play against Trap.

Let's rephrase that: If Trap wins against Maru we have a guaranteed new GSL victor because both Rogue and Trap don't have it
(edit> I rephrased the post you're reacting to)

On September 19 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
On September 19 2019 04:22 Zephyp wrote:
Rogue won so many Premier tournaments, I keep forgetting he never won a GSL. Go Log!

Matter of fact, this is the first time he ever made it past ro8. Sky is the limit for him now.


And probably Maru ;o

Question: Who are the practice partners for vMaru games? And I mean it, no other Terran ever shown such style, so who can emulate it? I believe both ROgue and Trap know MAru well enough, but still

Yeah watching that Maru’s POV of his series against RagnaroK I think even TY doesn’t get to this level of multitasking (or at least taking worse trades / macroing worse behind it).

Rogue can beat Maru with all sort of builds though, but he is probably vulnerable in standard games.

Trap has a good shot if he listens to sOs.



Pretty sure Maru said that teammates don't help each other practice for teamkills, and that they just solo ladder.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
September 19 2019 03:24 GMT
#18
On September 19 2019 10:57 serendipitous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2019 05:53 Poopi wrote:
On September 19 2019 04:32 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 19 2019 04:15 Nostromo1 wrote:
On September 19 2019 04:07 BisuDagger wrote:
If trap wins the we get a new GSL winner. Which also means we are closer to having all-GSL winner round of eights in the future.


If Rogue wins he too would also be a first time winner as well here's to hoping that Trap can beat Maru I would prefer to see Rogue play against Trap.

Let's rephrase that: If Trap wins against Maru we have a guaranteed new GSL victor because both Rogue and Trap don't have it
(edit> I rephrased the post you're reacting to)

On September 19 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
On September 19 2019 04:22 Zephyp wrote:
Rogue won so many Premier tournaments, I keep forgetting he never won a GSL. Go Log!

Matter of fact, this is the first time he ever made it past ro8. Sky is the limit for him now.


And probably Maru ;o

Question: Who are the practice partners for vMaru games? And I mean it, no other Terran ever shown such style, so who can emulate it? I believe both ROgue and Trap know MAru well enough, but still

Yeah watching that Maru’s POV of his series against RagnaroK I think even TY doesn’t get to this level of multitasking (or at least taking worse trades / macroing worse behind it).

Rogue can beat Maru with all sort of builds though, but he is probably vulnerable in standard games.

Trap has a good shot if he listens to sOs.



Pretty sure Maru said that teammates don't help each other practice for teamkills, and that they just solo ladder.


That would make a lot of sense, actually.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33347 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 04:26:28
September 19 2019 04:25 GMT
#19
Thought it was interesting how the difficult ZvZ practice situation in Korea alluded to in the quarterfinal interviews got brought up again. Rogue thanking Solar and TRUE, Solar in particular for helping him fine-tune builds. Meanwhile, Dark just generically saying he 'practiced hard.'

Obv Dark could have prepared just as well and simply not talked about it, but it's more entertaining to believe Rogue's friendships won him the match
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
September 19 2019 04:26 GMT
#20
I have a feeling that if Maru wins against Trap (which is not very unlikely), the finals could be kinda one-sided. Hoping Rogue proves me wrong though
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washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
September 19 2019 04:59 GMT
#21
nothing but team kills from hear on out strap yourself in for some really weird mind games.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 05:34:40
September 19 2019 05:34 GMT
#22
I have the Feeling, that whoever wins Trap v Maru, is going to be the next GSL champion. I can t see the vs Zest Rogue win against Trap, Who is way better than Offline Zest. And Maru is pretty damn good vsZ.
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
September 19 2019 07:23 GMT
#23
I hope Maru wins GSL and Serral wins Blizzcon. Imagine dominating GSL and still be number 2.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
September 19 2019 09:31 GMT
#24
Rogue, historically , had a better ZvZ than Dark. NO surprises here. Even Dark's first game strategy is borrowed from Rogue, albeit few changes:
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
September 19 2019 16:05 GMT
#25
On September 19 2019 13:25 Waxangel wrote:
Thought it was interesting how the difficult ZvZ practice situation in Korea alluded to in the quarterfinal interviews got brought up again. Rogue thanking Solar and TRUE, Solar in particular for helping him fine-tune builds. Meanwhile, Dark just generically saying he 'practiced hard.'

Obv Dark could have prepared just as well and simply not talked about it, but it's more entertaining to believe Rogue's friendships won him the match


The Power of Friendship FTW!
TanksALot
Profile Joined December 2002
United States153 Posts
September 19 2019 16:53 GMT
#26
What an awesome series. I'll admit I groaned at ZvZ but the level of mind games here was so fun to watch. The casting was a step above average too. GG Rogue
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waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
September 19 2019 21:51 GMT
#27
On September 20 2019 01:53 TanksALot wrote:
What an awesome series. I'll admit I groaned at ZvZ but the level of mind games here was so fun to watch. The casting was a step above average too. GG Rogue


LotV ZvZ is way past the groan-inducing HotS ZvZ. If there's one mirror that makes me groan these days it's PvP.
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atchosvk
Profile Joined April 2018
55 Posts
September 20 2019 09:27 GMT
#28
No interest in GSL anymore, knowing that all those guys get crushed by Serral or even by top foreigners.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 10:24:20
September 20 2019 09:50 GMT
#29
On September 20 2019 18:27 atchosvk wrote:
No interest in GSL anymore, knowing that all those guys get crushed by Serral or even by top foreigners.

Just because they d get crushed in ZvZ, doesn t mean they re all trash. In all other matchups Koreans are still better overall.

Edit: I m not only looking at Dark v Elazer to Back up my EuZvZ>KrZvZ claim, but for example also at Ragnarok v Namshar from Wardis Summer Championship yesterday.
They played on equal ping and Ragnarok (a top 5 Korean Zerg) got completly dismantled by Namshar (not a top 5 EU Zerg).
MaxPax
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6900 Posts
September 20 2019 11:29 GMT
#30
I'm not sure if Rogue won because of better prep or Dark just played reeeeaaal sloppy sometimes.

His defense in Game 4 was horrible and in Game 5 he was ahead and threw it quite hard
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 11:44:22
September 20 2019 11:43 GMT
#31
On September 20 2019 20:29 Harris1st wrote:
I'm not sure if Rogue won because of better prep or Dark just played reeeeaaal sloppy sometimes.

His defense in Game 4 was horrible and in Game 5 he was ahead and threw it quite hard

Rogue won because Dark is horrible at ZvZ (compared to his other match ups)
MaxPax
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary474 Posts
September 20 2019 11:57 GMT
#32
Dark who was famous for his scouting barely scouted at all in game 3 and game 4 and got surprised in both games. Very disappointing performance.
Why so serious?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6900 Posts
September 20 2019 12:15 GMT
#33
On September 20 2019 20:57 kajtarp wrote:
Dark who was famous for his scouting barely scouted at all in game 3 and game 4 and got surprised in both games. Very disappointing performance.


GSL Code S, the pinnacle of Starcraft
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
September 21 2019 08:56 GMT
#34
So glad to see that all six games are not just merely mass roach/ravagers. The first game is definitely the best of the series with creativity in attacks and counter-attacks.

Big Red Dog!
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
September 21 2019 15:51 GMT
#35
TBH I could not help but feel that Serral or even other EU zergs would have crushed both of these guys in ZvZ...Dark is clearly a step below Serral at this point I feel.
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