On June 15 2019 12:24 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2019 11:57 Xain0n wrote:On June 15 2019 10:33 Boggyb wrote:On June 15 2019 09:33 Xain0n wrote:On June 15 2019 05:19 Boggyb wrote:On June 15 2019 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On June 15 2019 01:54 Boggyb wrote:On June 15 2019 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:On June 14 2019 21:48 gTank wrote:On June 14 2019 21:43 renaissanceMAN wrote:
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Taeja? the best player to never have done so  Exactly. The correct answer is Serral. No, it really isn't. Serral has won only 3 tournaments with major Korean representation. (Blizzcon, GSL vs. The World, and HomeStory Cup). That's a great argument for best non-Korean of all time but it is well below what a bunch of Koreans have accomplished. If that's the metric you're using, Dark's a chump because he has only won a single tournament with major Korean representation (2016 SSL Season 1). Dark has done well in countless other tournaments with Koreans. Serral has not. Dark's offline record vs. South Korean players: 178-98Serral's offline record vs. South Korean players: 36-36 This post can't be real(just as those not counting Serral WCS victories). I second TaeJa and herO, Dark is a great player but not the best who hasn't reached a Code S final yet. Why can't it be real? Starcraft 2 wasn't released in 2017. If you're going to talk about the best player to not have done X, it is super dumb to just look at current form. It is absolutely reasonable to ignore Serral's WCS performances because he beats at most 4 Code S caliber players to do it. There are Olimoleagues with competition equal to that. "Absolutely reasonable"? Would you say as much about the stats you brought in(true ones, but totally misleading) that present Serral as a player who has a 50% chanche to beat koreans? So very convenient to omiss Serral's WCS victories while including his records before he became a full time player. Serral, by the way, has never even played a Code S qualifier; he shouldn't have been involved in this discussion. Serral had the chance to compete in every code S, even easier for him since his brother lives in Seoul. Dark or these other players could not compete in WCS even if they wanted to. These WCS events for Serral are like the Asian Games that Maru went to as the only south korean and stomped everyone in, pointless and not worth mentioning. Winning a tournament where you're 2 times as good as the second best player is worthless as a discussion topic.
Of course they can compete if they wanted to. They just have to uproot their current life and live in an eligible country and register as a qualifying foreign resident. ez money
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On June 17 2019 20:02 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2019 12:24 Morbidius wrote:On June 15 2019 11:57 Xain0n wrote:On June 15 2019 10:33 Boggyb wrote:On June 15 2019 09:33 Xain0n wrote:On June 15 2019 05:19 Boggyb wrote:On June 15 2019 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On June 15 2019 01:54 Boggyb wrote:On June 15 2019 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:On June 14 2019 21:48 gTank wrote:[quote] the best player to never have done so Exactly. The correct answer is Serral. No, it really isn't. Serral has won only 3 tournaments with major Korean representation. (Blizzcon, GSL vs. The World, and HomeStory Cup). That's a great argument for best non-Korean of all time but it is well below what a bunch of Koreans have accomplished. If that's the metric you're using, Dark's a chump because he has only won a single tournament with major Korean representation (2016 SSL Season 1). Dark has done well in countless other tournaments with Koreans. Serral has not. Dark's offline record vs. South Korean players: 178-98Serral's offline record vs. South Korean players: 36-36 This post can't be real(just as those not counting Serral WCS victories). I second TaeJa and herO, Dark is a great player but not the best who hasn't reached a Code S final yet. Why can't it be real? Starcraft 2 wasn't released in 2017. If you're going to talk about the best player to not have done X, it is super dumb to just look at current form. It is absolutely reasonable to ignore Serral's WCS performances because he beats at most 4 Code S caliber players to do it. There are Olimoleagues with competition equal to that. "Absolutely reasonable"? Would you say as much about the stats you brought in(true ones, but totally misleading) that present Serral as a player who has a 50% chanche to beat koreans? So very convenient to omiss Serral's WCS victories while including his records before he became a full time player. Serral, by the way, has never even played a Code S qualifier; he shouldn't have been involved in this discussion. Serral had the chance to compete in every code S, even easier for him since his brother lives in Seoul. Dark or these other players could not compete in WCS even if they wanted to. These WCS events for Serral are like the Asian Games that Maru went to as the only south korean and stomped everyone in, pointless and not worth mentioning. Winning a tournament where you're 2 times as good as the second best player is worthless as a discussion topic. Of course they can compete if they wanted to. They just have to uproot their current life and live in an eligible country and register as a qualifying foreign resident. ez money
Yeah, just the visa process takes from months to years, ezpz. Never seen a foreigner taking the Korean visa process for months or even years. I don't know where all the Korean pros and their teams do the mistake when it's so easy...
Edit> And don't get me start on the "either you play WCS or you play Code S, you have to decide if your schedule is bad" issue TRUE(I believe) met before. That was good too, because different regions, different rules (you don't have to live in a Korea for a month before Code S begins...)
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