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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
May 16 2019 09:05 GMT
#25
Not even filling all those spots.. gg -.-
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
May 16 2019 09:10 GMT
#26
On May 16 2019 17:49 Serimek wrote:
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On May 16 2019 16:58 Harris1st wrote:
Do we know why so many players cancelled? This is a very unfortunate start :/


Visa issues for some, maybe traveling cost for some.

Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy.

The question is why Ukraine has 2 events (IIRC) with these issues. Not that I will be watching WCS, just wondering why 2
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
May 16 2019 09:32 GMT
#27
Yeah sad that Scarlett won't be there Gonna move all my fandom super wizard energy/dorito sending p0wers over to Juanito for this one then.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6902 Posts
May 16 2019 09:46 GMT
#28
On May 16 2019 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
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On May 16 2019 17:49 Serimek wrote:
On May 16 2019 16:58 Harris1st wrote:
Do we know why so many players cancelled? This is a very unfortunate start :/


Visa issues for some, maybe traveling cost for some.

Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy.

The question is why Ukraine has 2 events (IIRC) with these issues. Not that I will be watching WCS, just wondering why 2


I'm guessing money has quite a lot to do with it. I would prefer events in Sweden. Those worked quite well if I recall correctly
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
May 16 2019 13:22 GMT
#29
On May 16 2019 12:11 Sc2Nebula wrote:
Scarlett is recovering from an eye surgery as far as I know.

I have said Scarlett had an eye surgery for many times. Why does no one know?
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Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
May 16 2019 13:36 GMT
#30
On May 16 2019 22:22 thickertom wrote:
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On May 16 2019 12:11 Sc2Nebula wrote:
Scarlett is recovering from an eye surgery as far as I know.

I have said Scarlett had an eye surgery for many times. Why does no one know?


Lasik has a very quick recovery (a few days), and she was playing GSL more than a week ago, so...
parrotpitaya
Profile Joined January 2019
Germany37 Posts
May 16 2019 14:03 GMT
#31
On May 16 2019 22:36 Elmonti wrote:
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On May 16 2019 22:22 thickertom wrote:
On May 16 2019 12:11 Sc2Nebula wrote:
Scarlett is recovering from an eye surgery as far as I know.

I have said Scarlett had an eye surgery for many times. Why does no one know?


Lasik has a very quick recovery (a few days), and she was playing GSL more than a week ago, so...


The recovery was not as good as expected and she did bad in GSL for that reason.
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
May 16 2019 14:24 GMT
#32
On May 16 2019 23:03 parrotpitaya wrote:
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On May 16 2019 22:36 Elmonti wrote:
On May 16 2019 22:22 thickertom wrote:
On May 16 2019 12:11 Sc2Nebula wrote:
Scarlett is recovering from an eye surgery as far as I know.

I have said Scarlett had an eye surgery for many times. Why does no one know?


Lasik has a very quick recovery (a few days), and she was playing GSL more than a week ago, so...


The recovery was not as good as expected and she did bad in GSL for that reason.


Where do you get that data from?... She lost 1-2 to Trap, and 1-2 to Keen... that's not strange for a healthy Scarlett, so nope, I don't think that's the reason she went out in GSL. The only strange thing she did was to ask GSL to lower the lights of the studio.

Anyways, excited to see how the new events in Kiev go.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6902 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 15:08:20
May 16 2019 15:08 GMT
#33
Where is my preview for WCS Spring? Damn you lazy TL writers. What am I (not) paying you for?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
May 16 2019 17:02 GMT
#34
On May 16 2019 23:24 Elmonti wrote:
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On May 16 2019 23:03 parrotpitaya wrote:
On May 16 2019 22:36 Elmonti wrote:
On May 16 2019 22:22 thickertom wrote:
On May 16 2019 12:11 Sc2Nebula wrote:
Scarlett is recovering from an eye surgery as far as I know.

I have said Scarlett had an eye surgery for many times. Why does no one know?


Lasik has a very quick recovery (a few days), and she was playing GSL more than a week ago, so...


The recovery was not as good as expected and she did bad in GSL for that reason.


Where do you get that data from?... She lost 1-2 to Trap, and 1-2 to Keen... that's not strange for a healthy Scarlett, so nope, I don't think that's the reason she went out in GSL. The only strange thing she did was to ask GSL to lower the lights of the studio.

Anyways, excited to see how the new events in Kiev go.

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Alex007
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine211 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 22:57:40
May 16 2019 22:56 GMT
#35
On May 16 2019 17:49 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2019 16:58 Harris1st wrote:
Do we know why so many players cancelled? This is a very unfortunate start :/


Visa issues for some, maybe traveling cost for some.

Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy

From the tournament organizer's perspective, I would like to clarify that no signups were cancelled due to any kind of visa / border control issues. Every Russian player is in. Every player who applied for visa (we had around 10 players who had to go for this procedure, one can't even compare that to US or Canada for example) is now in Kiev. The reasons of notable players like Scarlett, ArT, Denver, Rail, Rob cancelling their participation are mostly individual and nothing has changed since previous WCS Circuit stops: 5 to 10 players dropped almost every event. The main reason why we don't have the replacements for these players is our Master league signup criteria which was not used during the previous WCS Circuit events - this might be our mistake and we will consider changing this approach for WCS Summer.
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Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
May 17 2019 01:44 GMT
#36
Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy.


Furthermore, there are no mandatory vaccinations required to go to Ukraine. So its unlikely that this is the reason for Denver's absence..
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
May 17 2019 08:05 GMT
#37
no signups were cancelled due to any kind of visa / border control issues

Thanks for the clarification Alex007, that is very important information to frame the situation.

One concern I have is the sheer quantity of Starcraft being attempted on Friday. Three Bo3 dual-tournament group stages and five rounds of the Bo3 knockout bracket in just one day. That is more maps than an entire season of GSL in the first six hours. I can see why an unseeded player would be wary of entering such an endurance contest. An all-day event like this is certain to take place in the Americas/Korea night time, so just the jet lag alone would make it a grind for those traveling a long way. IEM, counting its offline qualifier, has similar field size and takes place over 5 days instead of 3.

I'd love to see some Korean players that failed to qualify for GSL/ST fill in the last spots, sort of reverse-Scarlett. Taeja or Bunny maybe, or some sponsored slots for any past legend.

I think, strangely enough, having a smaller offline field would increase the strength of the tournament. Almost better off having Group Stage 1 the previous weekend as an online event, and then it would provide a better incentive for the remaining players to travel, plus a less compressed tourney schedule.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
May 17 2019 19:53 GMT
#38
On May 17 2019 10:44 Kafka777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy.


Furthermore, there are no mandatory vaccinations required to go to Ukraine. So its unlikely that this is the reason for Denver's absence..


It is though :
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
May 17 2019 19:54 GMT
#39
On May 17 2019 07:56 Alex007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2019 17:49 Serimek wrote:
On May 16 2019 16:58 Harris1st wrote:
Do we know why so many players cancelled? This is a very unfortunate start :/


Visa issues for some, maybe traveling cost for some.

Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy

From the tournament organizer's perspective, I would like to clarify that no signups were cancelled due to any kind of visa / border control issues. Every Russian player is in. Every player who applied for visa (we had around 10 players who had to go for this procedure, one can't even compare that to US or Canada for example) is now in Kiev. The reasons of notable players like Scarlett, ArT, Denver, Rail, Rob cancelling their participation are mostly individual and nothing has changed since previous WCS Circuit stops: 5 to 10 players dropped almost every event. The main reason why we don't have the replacements for these players is our Master league signup criteria which was not used during the previous WCS Circuit events - this might be our mistake and we will consider changing this approach for WCS Summer.


I stand correct, thank you.
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Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
May 17 2019 22:53 GMT
#40
It is though


Generally the epidemic in in Western Ukraine, not in Kiev. One has similar risk of catching the disease in Paris as in Kiev.
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
May 18 2019 01:52 GMT
#41
Bonjour Twitter. Je ne serai pas à Kiev ce week-end pour les WCS.
Il y a en Ukraine une épidémie de rougeole qui a commencé il y a un mois, et je ne suis pas vacciné contre. Le vaccin est fabriqué à base d'oeuf, et j'y suis allergique, c'est pour ça qu'étant petit je n'ai pas été vacciné, et que je ne le suis toujours pas.
Vraiment déçu de ne pas pouvoir participer car je me sentais super mais je n'y peux rien.
Bonne chance à tous les participants et surtout aux immenses baguettes qui vont nous représenter là-bas.
A une prochaine fois


Hello Twitter. I will not be in Kiev this weekend for the WCS.

There is a measles outbreak in Ukraine that started a month ago, and I am not vaccinated against it. The vaccine is made from egg, and I'm allergic, that's why being small I was not vaccinated, and I still am not.

Really disappointed not to participate because I felt great but I can not help it.

Good luck to all participants and especially the prominent french players (immenses baguettes) that will represent us there.

See you later
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-18 03:01:34
May 18 2019 03:00 GMT
#42
On May 18 2019 10:52 Htime wrote:
Show nested quote +
Bonjour Twitter. Je ne serai pas à Kiev ce week-end pour les WCS.
Il y a en Ukraine une épidémie de rougeole qui a commencé il y a un mois, et je ne suis pas vacciné contre. Le vaccin est fabriqué à base d'oeuf, et j'y suis allergique, c'est pour ça qu'étant petit je n'ai pas été vacciné, et que je ne le suis toujours pas.
Vraiment déçu de ne pas pouvoir participer car je me sentais super mais je n'y peux rien.
Bonne chance à tous les participants et surtout aux immenses baguettes qui vont nous représenter là-bas.
A une prochaine fois


Hello Twitter. I will not be in Kiev this weekend for the WCS.

There is a measles outbreak in Ukraine that started a month ago, and I am not vaccinated against it. The vaccine is made from egg, and I'm allergic, that's why being small I was not vaccinated, and I still am not.

Really disappointed not to participate because I felt great but I can not help it.

Good luck to all participants and especially the prominent french players (immenses baguettes) that will represent us there.

See you later


WTF?

Egg allergy is NOT a contraindication to the measles vaccine. In fact kids with egg allergies are routinely given the vaccine - if anything there are special procedures/precautions that are set in place to make sure everything is smooth.

His doctors are misinforming him. He should really consult a better doctor or else he is playing with fire.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
May 18 2019 06:29 GMT
#43
On May 16 2019 07:05 Anc13nt wrote:
Wow if Scarlett isn't participating that sucks. It's almost crazy how she hasn't made Blizzcon in the past few years and I think this will hurt her chances.


It's a pity too, she's off to a great start with getting second in WCS Winter Americas, but really shooting herself in the foot here.
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zenDO
Profile Joined March 2019
Spain25 Posts
May 18 2019 08:49 GMT
#44
On May 16 2019 05:56 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2019 05:38 NinjaNight wrote:
On May 16 2019 04:45 krissout wrote:
Scarlett is not playing ?
You know why ? :/ Who else isn't coming ?
This is really sad


She's playing GSL instead, can't do both. She'll be playing in that soon =). This season there's a region lock that forbids a player to do gsl and wcs in the same season but they're scrapping that rule next season. So next time she could do GSL and WCS too if she wants.


That rule was changed almost as soon as it was implemented. SpeCial is in Code S and is also competing in WCS Spring/Kiev. The way the rule applies to Scalrett is that she was unable to play in this season of Challenger, and thus unable to compete for paid flight/accommodations. If Scarlett is not competing in the open bracket of this tournament, then it was for whatever other reasons (team/herself unwilling to pay for the trip out of pocket).


But it's not for playing in this season of GSL, it is because she competed in GSL S1 aswell.
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