• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:17
CET 02:17
KST 10:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)1Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win2RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Ride the Waves in Surf City: Why Surfing Lessons H
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft Data analysis on 70 million replays 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? [BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2027 users

Significance of Macro Mechanics differences - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
DreamlnCode
Profile Joined December 2018
United Kingdom77 Posts
May 07 2019 17:00 GMT
#21
On May 07 2019 04:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 03:02 Z3nith wrote:
Perhaps alter the lengths of warp ins depending on the tier of the unit? so certain units have their own warp in timings that are independent of each other so say it takes 4 seconds to warp in a sentry but 7 to warp in a zealot. Obviously, this would be a rather drastic change but it could make for some interesting plays. And of course those numbers quoted are not for real there would have to be significant balance testing. But it does make sense that a higher value unit would take more time to warp in.

How about making the warp prism just a shuttle to start with and the warping portion is upgraded.That way you have to invest in time researched.


It is very interesting you point this out. Some very good contributions here.

Other comments not so much. It would be nice for people to elaborate why they feel this way, as opposed to just voicing bias.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 08 2019 08:20 GMT
#22
Sometimes you just gotta skate bro
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
May 08 2019 09:02 GMT
#23
On May 07 2019 00:26 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 22:23 Harris1st wrote:
I don't know Kev

The biggest threat is WP + Immortal.
Maybe make WP 200 mins and 50 gas? or something along those lines. Immortals 275 min and 125 gas?

Everything else involves too much balancing around IMO

I'm all for a defensive mechanic to give Zerg that allows them an opportunity to snipe the WP. And by defensive I mean something that requires creep or a structure to be operational. Introducing scourge as others have suggested would enable WP sniping, but greatly affects all matchups. Upgrading spore to like a spore cannon so that it has increased range might be a thing. Or a queen injecting a spore could temporary buff its range would be plausible too.

Don't give queens another role. PLEASE. It's the biggest band aid unit in SC2 currently and their significance is bigger than MSC...
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6997 Posts
May 08 2019 09:11 GMT
#24
Make either WP pick-up range or Warp-in an upgrade. Seems like a good solution.

It has been a long time since the last community update, hasn't it?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
May 08 2019 13:46 GMT
#25
I agree with you there. It seems like a big oversight that the current state of chrono boost is still in the game. We have had so many changes and patches that the strength of chrono boost completely spiraled out of control.

Just imagine if Zerg had injects from the start.

Next weeks/months are going to be extremely interesting, thought I doubt that they are touching Chrono Boost in the upcoming Protoss nerf
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3949980/1/llllllllllll/
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
May 08 2019 14:10 GMT
#26
On May 08 2019 18:11 Harris1st wrote:
Make either WP pick-up range or Warp-in an upgrade. Seems like a good solution.

It has been a long time since the last community update, hasn't it?

They're stuck in a very bad position
Map pool is bad
Zerg and Protoss strong in WCS Terran weak
Zerg and Terrran too weak in GSL but Terran had consecutive champ(Mvp situation)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
01:00
#59
CranKy Ducklings61
SteadfastSC54
davetesta36
rockletztv 6
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 234
Nathanias 112
SteadfastSC 54
CosmosSc2 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 643
ggaemo 112
NaDa 10
Dota 2
syndereN277
Super Smash Bros
PPMD41
Other Games
summit1g11186
Day[9].tv593
C9.Mang0222
ViBE175
Maynarde138
Trikslyr65
taco 1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick700
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream205
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 98
• musti20045 29
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4304
Other Games
• Scarra2688
• imaqtpie1166
• Day9tv593
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 44m
Wardi Open
10h 44m
OSC
11h 44m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
22h 44m
The PondCast
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
OSC
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.