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Hi everyone,
I am currently in the process of upgrading my PC. While doing this, I noticed through my and other people's experience that being able to play SC2 with all of the graphics settings maxed at 60 FPS + during late game is nearly impossible.
While watching the global finals today, I was wondering how the observing PC could sustain what appears to be the absolute highest possible graphics in SC2 while staying silky smooth during all of the late game engagements (all though there wasn't much late game today, but you get the idea).
My understanding of the requirements to run SC2 at the highest settings is that you need a processor that can handle extremely high frequencies on 2 cores at most. All of the current high CPUs have some like 28 cores or something ridiculous like that. So I am not sure what they are using.
Any one of your guys have an idea?
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The best ones I can think of to ask directly would be FunKa and the guys at O'Gaming.
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They are probably using the cookie cutter top tier PC build AKA i7 8700K or even 9 series CPU, high frequency RAM (3000+) and a top end GTX/RTX graphic card. Probably supplied by either Intel or Nvidia considering they are sponsors of the event. SC2 doesn't really benefit from anything higher due to the lack of multi thread utilization.
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the above post is right, honestly not that insane of a top gaming computer; the important thing to remember is that often times the stream/viewer has a different experience from what the player/observer is seeing. It's more noticeable if you box with your mouse; which in these sorts of events observers avoid doing - directly clicking on things or double clicking. In those scenarios you get a better idea of the lag/input they're dealing with. But, nonetheless with the above sort of build you're probably never dropping under 140~+ while streaming.
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Generally in 1v1 the stress is a lot lower as well. It's the team games and arcade maps with complex triggers that will consistently have performance issues. And you really can't do anything about them.
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Ideally you want one of the top processors in the single core area of this benchmark http://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks
As for the graphics it's not a very demanding game so 1050ti+ should be enough for highest settings
Fast RAM helps as well for the game
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Thanks for the answers.
I don't have a high end PC so I am not familiar with how one would handle itself in 400 supply scenarios. I was somehow under the impression that fps could sometimes drop below 60 under certain scenarios even with the latest parts.
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On October 27 2018 20:36 Psychotikah wrote:
Thanks for the answers.
I don't have a high end PC so I am not familiar with how one would handle itself in 400 supply scenarios. I was somehow under the impression that fps could sometimes drop below 60 under certain scenarios even with the latest parts.
it's true, but that's just a side effect of the game and the time it was made. there isn't really any up to date optimizations for it.
as others have said, unless you're playing end game 2v2(sometimes), or 3v3/4v4/arcade games, chances are with a high speed clocked processor and semi-decent gpu you'll be getting quite good fps. obviously, the better cpu u get (intel has higher single core clocks than AMD, so it's relevant here), the better frames you're gonna maintain while streaming as well. sc2 isn't really gpu intensive, and the above recommendation is sufficient.
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On October 27 2018 21:16 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 20:36 Psychotikah wrote:
Thanks for the answers.
I don't have a high end PC so I am not familiar with how one would handle itself in 400 supply scenarios. I was somehow under the impression that fps could sometimes drop below 60 under certain scenarios even with the latest parts. it's true, but that's just a side effect of the game and the time it was made. there isn't really any up to date optimizations for it. as others have said, unless you're playing end game 2v2(sometimes), or 3v3/4v4/arcade games, chances are with a high speed clocked processor and semi-decent gpu you'll be getting quite good fps. obviously, the better cpu u get (intel has higher single core clocks than AMD, so it's relevant here), the better frames you're gonna maintain while streaming as well. sc2 isn't really gpu intensive, and the above recommendation is sufficient.
I have too many life responsibilities that prohibit me from currently buying ab Intel CPU and Mobo, so I stuck with overclocking my old fx-6300 ahah. Despite achieving somewhat high clock frequency, it looks like the and is still way inferior to modern intels... I get frame drops in the 40 range in late game engagements with only high graphic settings, in 1v1!. (Just got a gtx 1050 2gb). This experience got me thinking that the wcs observer PC must be a beast! At the same time, I have never owned a modern i5 or i7 CPU.
Sorry to derail my own thread into my personal woes. But it just hit me how insanely CPU demanding is this game! At least my game is smooth. I can't say I see a difference when the game goes from 60 to 40 fps with 400 supply in front of me.
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On October 27 2018 21:24 Psychotikah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 21:16 -Kyo- wrote:On October 27 2018 20:36 Psychotikah wrote:
Thanks for the answers.
I don't have a high end PC so I am not familiar with how one would handle itself in 400 supply scenarios. I was somehow under the impression that fps could sometimes drop below 60 under certain scenarios even with the latest parts. it's true, but that's just a side effect of the game and the time it was made. there isn't really any up to date optimizations for it. as others have said, unless you're playing end game 2v2(sometimes), or 3v3/4v4/arcade games, chances are with a high speed clocked processor and semi-decent gpu you'll be getting quite good fps. obviously, the better cpu u get (intel has higher single core clocks than AMD, so it's relevant here), the better frames you're gonna maintain while streaming as well. sc2 isn't really gpu intensive, and the above recommendation is sufficient. I have too many life responsibilities that prohibit me from currently buying ab Intel CPU and Mobo, so I stuck with overclocking my old fx-6300 ahah. Despite achieving somewhat high clock frequency, it looks like the and is still way inferior to modern intels... I get frame drops in the 40 range in late game engagements with only high graphic settings, in 1v1!. (Just got a gtx 1050 2gb). This experience got me thinking that the wcs observer PC must be a beast! At the same time, I have never owned a modern i5 or i7 CPU. Sorry to derail my own thread into my personal woes. But it just hit me how insanely CPU demanding is this game! At least my game is smooth. I can't say I see a difference when the game goes from 60 to 40 fps with 400 supply in front of me.
Well any modern i5 or i7s, or a Ryzen is like... 5 times if not higher performance than an FX-6300.
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On October 27 2018 14:45 Psychotikah wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am currently in the process of upgrading my PC. While doing this, I noticed through my and other people's experience that being able to play SC2 with all of the graphics settings maxed at 60 FPS + during late game is nearly impossible.
While watching the global finals today, I was wondering how the observing PC could sustain what appears to be the absolute highest possible graphics in SC2 while staying silky smooth during all of the late game engagements (all though there wasn't much late game today, but you get the idea).
My understanding of the requirements to run SC2 at the highest settings is that you need a processor that can handle extremely high frequencies on 2 cores at most. All of the current high CPUs have some like 28 cores or something ridiculous like that. So I am not sure what they are using.
Any one of your guys have an idea?
For 1v1 pretty much any mid tier computer will run it like that. My low mid laptop with a decent i5 could run late game at over 30 fps. It only gets bad for teams and arcade because there are a ton of units on the screen. 1v1 won't overload it
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One of THE best threads 
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I'm not as impressed as you are to be fair, in fact I think it really wasn't smooth. Check the day 1 stream, that 1080p60 looked more like 30 fps. Sure, it was very smooth when they switched to 720p60, so I assume it couldn't handle 1080p60.
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Thanks everyone for your answers.
I am aware that my rig is very outdated! Some of you guys have very high standards for computer specs! 
The more power to you. I bet if I was living alone with no kids I would buy a nasa computer as well!
Sorry for posting this on the main board, I wasn't aware that there was a dedicated computer build thread.
And as a FYI, I got my crappy overclocked FX and GTX 1050 to run the game on ultra graphics (all non CPU bound settings maxxed) with very adequate constant frame rate in late game 1v1! I am very satisfied (with my low standards of course)
Enjoy the rest of the global finals!
sOs fighting!
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For playing SC2 you don't need to have an expensive PC. Personally, I have an old computer and I'm using a cleaner and I can say that this thing improved my PC performance. I suppose it deletes all residual files that's why my system is working properly. If you want to increase the performance too, check this article: https://thinkmobiles.com/blog/best-registry-cleaner-tools/ .In this article, there are described a lot of cleaners their features and price. Don't worry, some of them are free to download, so you won't spend money on it.
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We used 6700K's + 1080's w/ 16GB of 2866MHz RAM for our observer PC's, we did WESG NA SC2 just fine with it, logos.sc2mod included.
Though we also turn particle effects and shadows down because its incredibly difficult to discern what's going on in big fights in SC2 with them at max.
EDIT: I just realized this thread got necro'd before I posted in it. Oops. But there's a 2020 spec list, haha!
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The graphics card is not really important since the game is graphically light and extremely CPU heavy.
ATM the fastest config is current gen Intel. 10600k, but going to a 10900k helps a bit due to additional L3 cache. Memory OC with some b-die adds another 20% performance compared to using 3200 16-18-18 XMP.
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So now on 08 July 2020 can we get stable 60+ fps or 144 fps for 800 supply 4v4 late game scenario or is it still impossible?
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