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Hi guys,
I thought it'd be interesting to predict how you think the TeamLiquid writers will power rank players going into BlizzCon, as well as any changes you would make and why. For this I'm assuming the November power rank will be BlizzCon dedicated, so only looking at those 16 players.
My expectations for TL PowerRank are: 1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Classic 4. TY 5. Dark 6. Stats 7. sOs 8. Rogue 9. Zest 10. Neeb 11. SpeCial 12. ShowTime 13. Lambo 14. Has 15. Nerchio 16. HeroMarine
If it came out this way I think it would be pretty close to right for me, however: - I think Serral is probably number 1 overall, particularly in a weekender environment where he will be more comfortable than Maru without the same level of map preparation as in GSL where he has thrived. - Although I think Neeb would be second strongest foreigner currently, and probably deserving on skill alone to be in the top 8 overall, he also has the hardest group overall. I'd expect Special to advance from his group before Neeb. So I'd swap them around. - Has has upset potential for sure, but to me he is clear cut 16th position on the balance of probabilities.
Also I think 3-5 are pretty interchangable.
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For me, I think TL would put:
1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. sOs 6. TY 7. Dark 8. Rogue 9. Zest 10. Neeb 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. Nerchio 15. HeroMarine 16. Has
Having Serral at 1 overall is silly, since any of the Koreans can beat him in a bo5 and farming WCS Foreign Land isn't as impressive as winning 3 gsls. Now that he's on their radar combined with being in the biggest tournament of the year, I expect the koreans to come prepared with counter builds. With that being said, I am definitely rooting for a Serral vs Maru final as that will be extremely hyped and a great matchup. I just hope we don't get too many random upsets and end up with Lambo vs Nerchio finals or something.
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That looks about right based on what I'm expecting from TL and it's not too outlandish aside from ranking Classic too high. On my own personal power rank I have sOs at #3. I truly believe in the man's preparation for Blizzcon and he will steal the show from Maru and Serral.
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LOL preemptively poisoning the well
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On October 17 2018 08:40 Waxangel wrote:LOL preemptively poisoning the well Well it's a slow news day while we wait for BlizzCon innit haha
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1. Has 2. Has 3. Has 4. Has 5. Has 6. Has 7. Has 8. Has 9. Has 10. Has 11. Has 12. Has 13. Has 14. Has 15. Has 16. Has
Only correct answer
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I don't know what the TL ranking will be, but I'm pretty sure most people will disagree with it.
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On October 17 2018 11:27 FrkFrJss wrote: I don't know what the TL ranking will be, but I'm pretty sure most people will disagree with it. Hopefully this will help them reach the correct conclusions then.
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On October 17 2018 08:28 phodacbiet wrote: For me, I think TL would put:
1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. sOs 6. TY 7. Dark 8. Rogue 9. Zest 10. Neeb 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. Nerchio 15. HeroMarine 16. Has
Having Serral at 1 overall is silly, since any of the Koreans can beat him in a bo5 and farming WCS Foreign Land isn't as impressive as winning 3 gsls. Now that he's on their radar combined with being in the biggest tournament of the year, I expect the koreans to come prepared with counter builds. With that being said, I am definitely rooting for a Serral vs Maru final as that will be extremely hyped and a great matchup. I just hope we don't get too many random upsets and end up with Lambo vs Nerchio finals or something. I like to think you're correct that Has will be last, but I just have such a strong feeling they'll go a bit crazy.
Re Serral - I'd argue he can beat any of the Koreans in a bo5 too .. which he proved at GSL v World .. but it'll be how he turns up on the day. My main concern for him is that everyone is spending so much time practicing against him that he doesn't have many friends left to train with. I understand Namshar is his closest friend who might not be strong enough help.
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Serral would just play himself in his mind.
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So no faith in Has...i see...
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1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. TY 6. Rogue 7. sOs 8. Dark 9. Neeb 10. Zest 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. HeroMarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is IMO fairly accurate with a few people able to +/-1 or tie with the person above them.
Classic has the easiest group imo, ill be shocked if TY and Maru don't make it out of their group, and Serral SHOULD make it out barring self-inflicted crap play.
IMO, if anybody has the best chance besides maru and serral to win the whole thing, it will be classic or TY( TY due to it being a tossup in the TvT vs Maru). I think TY and serral are tied for having the best chance to beat maru. Should be best global finals yet.
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People really think TL would give Stats #3?
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On October 18 2018 00:13 Tempest wrote: 1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. TY 6. Rogue 7. sOs 8. Dark 9. Neeb 10. Zest 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. HeroMarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is IMO fairly accurate with a few people able to +/-1 or tie with the person above them.
Classic has the easiest group imo, ill be shocked if TY and Maru don't make it out of their group, and Serral SHOULD make it out barring self-inflicted crap play.
IMO, if anybody has the best chance besides maru and serral to win the whole thing, it will be classic or TY( TY due to it being a tossup in the TvT vs Maru). I think TY and serral are tied for having the best chance to beat maru. Should be best global finals yet. I believe Zest can do what sOs did in 2013: play in a way that forces mistakes from the opponent. The games will look sloppy, but Zest can probably win. The last few matches I've seen Zest play has looked horrible, but he has faced good players and won a lot.
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On October 17 2018 08:53 yubo56 wrote: 1. Has 2. Has 3. Has 4. Has 5. Has 6. Has 7. Has 8. Has 9. Has 10. Has 11. Has 12. Has 13. Has 14. Has 15. Has 16. Has
Only correct answer
This is all you need to know, close the thread please.
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On October 18 2018 00:56 Drfilip wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2018 00:13 Tempest wrote: 1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. TY 6. Rogue 7. sOs 8. Dark 9. Neeb 10. Zest 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. HeroMarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is IMO fairly accurate with a few people able to +/-1 or tie with the person above them.
Classic has the easiest group imo, ill be shocked if TY and Maru don't make it out of their group, and Serral SHOULD make it out barring self-inflicted crap play.
IMO, if anybody has the best chance besides maru and serral to win the whole thing, it will be classic or TY( TY due to it being a tossup in the TvT vs Maru). I think TY and serral are tied for having the best chance to beat maru. Should be best global finals yet. I believe Zest can do what sOs did in 2013: play in a way that forces mistakes from the opponent. The games will look sloppy, but Zest can probably win. The last few matches I've seen Zest play has looked horrible, but he has faced good players and won a lot.
True true. Even though I ranked zest low (because of his recently not fantastic play) him and sOs are both capable of saying "Screw your thought process" and making it to semifinals or better. Highly volatile players capable of volatile results. I did my ranking in a vacuum, in REAL play all the Koreans and 2 of the foreigners are capable of far surpassing my expectations.
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On October 17 2018 08:28 phodacbiet wrote: For me, I think TL would put:
1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. sOs 6. TY 7. Dark 8. Rogue 9. Zest 10. Neeb 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. Nerchio 15. HeroMarine 16. Has
Having Serral at 1 overall is silly, since any of the Koreans can beat him in a bo5 and farming WCS Foreign Land isn't as impressive as winning 3 gsls. Now that he's on their radar combined with being in the biggest tournament of the year, I expect the koreans to come prepared with counter builds. With that being said, I am definitely rooting for a Serral vs Maru final as that will be extremely hyped and a great matchup. I just hope we don't get too many random upsets and end up with Lambo vs Nerchio finals or something. lambo and nercio are zerg.. it could happen actually
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On October 18 2018 00:13 Tempest wrote: 1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. TY 6. Rogue 7. sOs 8. Dark 9. Neeb 10. Zest 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. HeroMarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is IMO fairly accurate with a few people able to +/-1 or tie with the person above them.
Classic has the easiest group imo, ill be shocked if TY and Maru don't make it out of their group, and Serral SHOULD make it out barring self-inflicted crap play.
IMO, if anybody has the best chance besides maru and serral to win the whole thing, it will be classic or TY( TY due to it being a tossup in the TvT vs Maru). I think TY and serral are tied for having the best chance to beat maru. Should be best global finals yet. I think you've got Rogue a bit high, he doesn't really have any notable performances lately - but I realise that's largely because he keeps getting team killed.
It's a shame Reynor didn't make the cut, I'd be super excited to have seen him in the mix. He would have slotted in to #11 for me.
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Expected to win: Maru, Serral
Could win: Dark, TY, Rogue, Classic
Can go far but will not win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, Stats
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
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On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote: Expected to win: Maru, Serral
Could win: Dark, TY, Rogue, Classic
Can go far but will not win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, Stats
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote:
Can go far but will not win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, Stats
On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote:
Can go far but will not win: sOs
wat
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On October 18 2018 00:13 Tempest wrote: 1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. TY 6. Rogue 7. sOs 8. Dark 9. Neeb 10. Zest 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. HeroMarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is IMO fairly accurate with a few people able to +/-1 or tie with the person above them.
Classic has the easiest group imo, ill be shocked if TY and Maru don't make it out of their group, and Serral SHOULD make it out barring self-inflicted crap play.
IMO, if anybody has the best chance besides maru and serral to win the whole thing, it will be classic or TY( TY due to it being a tossup in the TvT vs Maru). I think TY and serral are tied for having the best chance to beat maru. Should be best global finals yet.
I've made the mistake of counting sOs out of a Blizzcon too many times before. Not gonna make that mistake again.
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Part of me wants Has to win so enough people leave to kill the game and we can all realize that shitty cheese strategies really are the best
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1. Maru 2. Stats 3. Dark 4. TY 5. Serral 6. Classic 7. Rogue 8. sOs 9. Neeb 10. Showtime 11. Special 12. Heromarine 13. Lambo 14. Nerchio 15. Has 16. Zest
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On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote: Expected to win: Maru, Serral
Could win: Dark, TY, Rogue, Classic
Can go far but will not win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, Stats
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
Not bad, I heckin agree mostly, but I would name the category "Can go far but SHOULDNT win" and id move stats up to the "could win" category.
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i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think.
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Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith!
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On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith!
3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol.
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On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. The stupid part is that they won't. They never do. No matter how predictable Maru's use of 2 rax becomes.
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On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. Yeah agreed. During his GSL runs nobody knew that Maru likes to proxy so they didn't prepare for it. Now they will just counter it and win easily.
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I like MockHamill's format so I'm copying it mostly.
Expected to win: Maru
Could win: Stats, Serral, Dark, Classic
Can go far but I don't think will win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, TY, Rogue
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
I do think Showtime can make it past the group though if Dark wins against Stats and he knocks out Stats. It's possible. Lambo has a too rough group. Special and Nerchio also have a shot at doing it if one of the guys beats Rogue, which does seem possible.
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1. Maru 2. Serral 3. TY 4. Stats 5. Classic 6. Dark 7. Zest 8. Rogue 9. Special 10. sOs 11. Neeb 12. ShowTime 13. Lambo 14. Heromarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is what I think TL will have, I agree if only Serral would be a bit lower, maybe 4th with TY and Stats above.
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On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol.
The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too.
So all and all I think Maru still deserve to be first but it's still a bit weird to do so when he just lost his last tournament and in the meanwhile Serral won everything he was in for the last 6 months even if it was mostly against a weaker field.
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My Ranking: 1. Dark 2. Maru 3. Serral 4. Stats 5. sOs 6. TY 7. Classic 8. Neeb 9. Rogue 10.Special 11.Lambo 12. Zest 13. Showtime 14. Nerchio 15. Heromarine 16. Has
Dark's Blizzcon sorry doubters.
TL's Power rank: Having a hard time predicting which Liquid player they will put 1st
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On October 19 2018 03:19 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol. The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too. Should you get credit for not losing a match if you avoid any opponents close to you in skill?
(I'm not actually saying Serral shouldn't get credit for it, he should, but winning 90% of the time against the best in the world is harder than winning 100% while smurfing).
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On October 19 2018 00:53 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. Yeah agreed. During his GSL runs nobody knew that Maru likes to proxy so they didn't prepare for it. Now they will just counter it and win easily.
thanks for the sarcasm, they're literally playing for 10x the prize as GSL. if the case were that players would overprepare for something, that is entirely legitimate but there is not a single reason why more individuals won't be more ready for it than ever before.
there isn't a straight up counter to it as you need to either commit to scouting one side or shallow scout on each side which becomes a heavy guessing game that ends up in seeing the lack of a barracks in the main and probably never finding the rax position in the first place. then players need to understand what exactly to do when cyclones are involved as there is a lack of marines or reapers showing. but no doubt it removes it leads to more comfort and removes the possibility of losing outright to the actual cheese portion.
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On October 19 2018 03:37 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 00:53 Charoisaur wrote:On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. Yeah agreed. During his GSL runs nobody knew that Maru likes to proxy so they didn't prepare for it. Now they will just counter it and win easily. thanks for the sarcasm, they're literally playing for 10x the prize as GSL. if the case were that players would overprepare for something, that is entirely legitimate but there is not a single reason why more individuals won't be more ready for it than ever before. Remember when Dark played Maru for a $200K prize and didn't realise he always 2 raxes when on the edge?
Maru has been doing this for years. PartinG was calling him out for in like 2015.
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On October 19 2018 03:22 JonSnow wrote: My Ranking: 1. Dark 2. Maru 3. Serral 4. Stats 5. sOs 6. TY 7. Classic 8. Neeb 9. Rogue 10.Special 11.Lambo 12. Zest 13. Showtime 14. Nerchio 15. Heromarine 16. Has
Dark's Blizzcon sorry doubters.
TL's Power rank: Having a hard time predicting which Liquid player they will put 1st
At least your list is spicy. Although not having Classic top 5 is blasphemy
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Expected to win: Maru, sOs
Could win: Stats, Classic, TY, Rogue
Can go far but I don't think will win: Neeb, Zest, Serral, Dark
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
Power Rank prediction: 1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Classic 4. TY 5. sOs 6. Stats 7. Dark 8. Zest 9. Neeb 10. Rogue 11. Special 12. Showtime 13. Heromarine 14. Nerchio 15. Lambo 16. Has
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On October 19 2018 03:19 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol. The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too. So all and all I think Maru still deserve to be first but it's still a bit weird to do so when he just lost his last tournament and in the meanwhile Serral won everything he was in for the last 6 months even if it was mostly against a weaker field. and how many top 10 players did Serral beat during his "unbeaten" streak?
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On October 19 2018 12:37 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 03:19 Nakajin wrote:On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol. The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too. So all and all I think Maru still deserve to be first but it's still a bit weird to do so when he just lost his last tournament and in the meanwhile Serral won everything he was in for the last 6 months even if it was mostly against a weaker field. and how many top 10 players did Serral beat during his "unbeaten" streak? Stats, Dark, Maru and INnoVation were beaten after the bo1 loss in may. Classic was beaten after the loss vs Maru in march.
Serral is 13-5 vs Koreans since last BlizzCon.
2 of the losses are the bo1 vs soO, there are 2 bo5 losses vs Classic and Maru, and a bo7 loss vs Bunny.
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On October 19 2018 13:53 Drfilip wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 12:37 Charoisaur wrote:On October 19 2018 03:19 Nakajin wrote:On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol. The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too. So all and all I think Maru still deserve to be first but it's still a bit weird to do so when he just lost his last tournament and in the meanwhile Serral won everything he was in for the last 6 months even if it was mostly against a weaker field. and how many top 10 players did Serral beat during his "unbeaten" streak? Stats, Dark, Maru and INnoVation were beaten after the bo1 loss in may. Classic was beaten after the loss vs Maru in march. Serral is 13-5 vs Koreans since last BlizzCon. 2 of the losses are the bo1 vs soO, there are 2 bo5 losses vs Classic and Maru, and a bo7 loss vs Bunny.
Holy shit. 13-5?! I actually hadn't realized that. That's amazing.
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On October 19 2018 14:06 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 13:53 Drfilip wrote:On October 19 2018 12:37 Charoisaur wrote:On October 19 2018 03:19 Nakajin wrote:On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol. The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too. So all and all I think Maru still deserve to be first but it's still a bit weird to do so when he just lost his last tournament and in the meanwhile Serral won everything he was in for the last 6 months even if it was mostly against a weaker field. and how many top 10 players did Serral beat during his "unbeaten" streak? Stats, Dark, Maru and INnoVation were beaten after the bo1 loss in may. Classic was beaten after the loss vs Maru in march. Serral is 13-5 vs Koreans since last BlizzCon. 2 of the losses are the bo1 vs soO, there are 2 bo5 losses vs Classic and Maru, and a bo7 loss vs Bunny. Holy shit. 13-5?! I actually hadn't realized that. That's amazing. Thats counting in wins against TRUE and during the IEM qualifiers on the european server though.
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I think The zergs have the highest chance of winning overall but Maru has the highest chance of winning personally. so my top 5 would be 1. Maru 2. Dark 3. Serral 4. Rogue 5. Classic. Classic is looking pretty strong lately but I don't think he will likely be able to cheese out the zergs or deal with proxies from maru.
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I think someone before was on the right clue. We need to separate people who can win it all from those who can't:
People who (could) win it all:
1. sOs 2. Rogue 3. Maru 4. Dark 5. Serral 6. Stats 7. Classic 8. Special
Players who can't win it all:
9. TY 10. Zest 11. Showtime 12. Neeb 13. Lambo 14. Has 15. Heromarine 16. Nerchio
Note that the top 8 I chose are not necessarily the currently best 8. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if some from the botttom 8 made it to top 8. However, I am 99.99% certain that nobody in the bottom 8 on my list will take first place; conversely anyone on the top 8 of my list *could* take 1st place.
Edit I found spoiler-free VODs of Blizzcon 2018 on youtube already. Unfortunately the screen is kind of blank.
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On October 20 2018 08:36 KR_4EVR wrote: I think someone before was on the right clue. We need to separate people who can win it all from those who can't:
People who (could) win it all:
1. sOs 2. Rogue 3. Maru 4. Dark 5. Serral 6. Stats 7. Classic 8. Special
Players who can't win it all:
9. TY 10. Zest 11. Showtime 12. Neeb 13. Lambo 14. Has 15. Heromarine 16. Nerchio
Note that the top 8 I chose are not necessarily the currently best 8. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if some from the botttom 8 made it to top 8. However, I am 99.99% certain that nobody in the bottom 8 on my list will take first place; conversely anyone on the top 8 of my list *could* take 1st place.
Edit I found spoiler-free VODs of Blizzcon 2018 on youtube already. Unfortunately the screen is kind of blank.
What makes you think Special could win it all but TY can't? I also think Zest has a much better chance than stats but that's just my opinion.
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On October 20 2018 10:01 ZackAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2018 08:36 KR_4EVR wrote: I think someone before was on the right clue. We need to separate people who can win it all from those who can't:
People who (could) win it all:
1. sOs 2. Rogue 3. Maru 4. Dark 5. Serral 6. Stats 7. Classic 8. Special
Players who can't win it all:
9. TY 10. Zest 11. Showtime 12. Neeb 13. Lambo 14. Has 15. Heromarine 16. Nerchio
Note that the top 8 I chose are not necessarily the currently best 8. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if some from the botttom 8 made it to top 8. However, I am 99.99% certain that nobody in the bottom 8 on my list will take first place; conversely anyone on the top 8 of my list *could* take 1st place.
Edit I found spoiler-free VODs of Blizzcon 2018 on youtube already. Unfortunately the screen is kind of blank. What makes you think Special could win it all but TY can't? I also think Zest has a much better chance than stats but that's just my opinion. Zest having a better chance than Stats is a fucking laugh. Zest won't make it past group stage. Very likely 0-2
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This ranking is wrong doesnt feature the true god of sc2 and that is Avilo at 2 and Has at number one
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On October 20 2018 10:45 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2018 10:01 ZackAttack wrote:On October 20 2018 08:36 KR_4EVR wrote: I think someone before was on the right clue. We need to separate people who can win it all from those who can't:
People who (could) win it all:
1. sOs 2. Rogue 3. Maru 4. Dark 5. Serral 6. Stats 7. Classic 8. Special
Players who can't win it all:
9. TY 10. Zest 11. Showtime 12. Neeb 13. Lambo 14. Has 15. Heromarine 16. Nerchio
Note that the top 8 I chose are not necessarily the currently best 8. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if some from the botttom 8 made it to top 8. However, I am 99.99% certain that nobody in the bottom 8 on my list will take first place; conversely anyone on the top 8 of my list *could* take 1st place.
Edit I found spoiler-free VODs of Blizzcon 2018 on youtube already. Unfortunately the screen is kind of blank. What makes you think Special could win it all but TY can't? I also think Zest has a much better chance than stats but that's just my opinion. Zest having a better chance than Stats is a fucking laugh. Zest won't make it past group stage. Very likely 0-2
Zest's first games are against Heromarine. No way he loses that. I agree that zest has the much harder group while stats is certainly going to make it out, but it's not a "laugh".
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On October 20 2018 14:44 ZackAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2018 10:45 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 20 2018 10:01 ZackAttack wrote:On October 20 2018 08:36 KR_4EVR wrote: I think someone before was on the right clue. We need to separate people who can win it all from those who can't:
People who (could) win it all:
1. sOs 2. Rogue 3. Maru 4. Dark 5. Serral 6. Stats 7. Classic 8. Special
Players who can't win it all:
9. TY 10. Zest 11. Showtime 12. Neeb 13. Lambo 14. Has 15. Heromarine 16. Nerchio
Note that the top 8 I chose are not necessarily the currently best 8. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if some from the botttom 8 made it to top 8. However, I am 99.99% certain that nobody in the bottom 8 on my list will take first place; conversely anyone on the top 8 of my list *could* take 1st place.
Edit I found spoiler-free VODs of Blizzcon 2018 on youtube already. Unfortunately the screen is kind of blank. What makes you think Special could win it all but TY can't? I also think Zest has a much better chance than stats but that's just my opinion. Zest having a better chance than Stats is a fucking laugh. Zest won't make it past group stage. Very likely 0-2 Zest's first games are against Heromarine. No way he loses that. I agree that zest has the much harder group while stats is certainly going to make it out, but it's not a "laugh".
While it's true that Zest should roll over Heromarine, he does have his NA moments and can go 0-4 for the day against inferior players. It's a Zest thing.
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I admit that I am a bit biased towards foreigners, but I feel like Heromarine could very well win against Zest here. Mainly because in this group he is the most likely to be underestimated. It is a group of two Korean Protosses and Serral, and the Koreans don't really ever play against him, plus they are most likely concentrated on beating each other and Serral. And Heromarine is a really good player who is capable of getting a win here if he does his homework. There is upset potential here, I don't expect it, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it happened.
Also, Heromarine could just not even prepare to play against Serral and concentrate only on his TvP, while both Zest and sOs will most likely try to practice for all matchups. or at least for two of them.
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players who could win
Maru Serral TY Dark Stats sOs Rogue
players that cannot win
Classic Zest Neeb SpeCial ShowTime Lambo Has Nerchio HeroMarine
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