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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2018 17:06 GMT
#41
Teamkills happen for other ex teams as well, i am too lazy to do the analysis over all the tournaments in the last 2 years to see if jinair actually has more than others, if you are motivated enough you can post your findings though

Other than that there isn't really anything worthwhile to discuss here, the point of this thread is implying that the teamhouse environment is a big factor in maru's success, theoretically that could be true but if we look at the other players in jinair they didn't perform better comparatively even though dave4 claims they did.

I mean for this year you really just have to look at the wcs standings as well.

Total Jinair points (6 players): 28975 points where half of them are maru
Total exSKT points (5 players): 19675
Total exKT: (6 players with jjakji retiring) : 22500 , 22300 without jjakji

If we would remove the best of each team they would all fall to about the same points. So yes, maru dominates but that's about it.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-28 17:23:56
September 28 2018 17:19 GMT
#42
On September 29 2018 02:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Teamkills happen for other ex teams as well, i am too lazy to do the analysis over all the tournaments in the last 2 years to see if jinair actually has more than others, if you are motivated enough you can post your findings though

Other than that there isn't really anything worthwhile to discuss here, the point of this thread is implying that the teamhouse environment is a big factor in maru's success, theoretically that could be true but if we look at the other players in jinair they didn't perform better comparatively even though dave4 claims they did.

I mean for this year you really just have to look at the wcs standings as well.

Total Jinair points (6 players): 28975 points where half of them are maru
Total exSKT points (5 players): 19675
Total exKT: (6 players with jjakji retiring) : 22500 , 22300 without jjakji

If we would remove the best of each team they would all fall to about the same points. So yes, maru dominates but that's about it.

well, the point is, that there's NO SKT and NO KT. Thus JAGW is the best team and it is dominant even if it's just Maru and teamkills.

DOn't be in the past. And KT/SKT would be more dominant, that's for sure, but at the same time KT/SKT were more dominant than JAGW even before, so, uh, surprise? oO

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And I am one of those who says they're not that dominant as they could be(or as others are making it)

And what happened to my JAGW flair? that's jar jar
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2018 17:25 GMT
#43
I think you should read this thread and what the op argues to understand why i post these things. Otherwise we talk past each other.
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GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
September 28 2018 18:00 GMT
#44
We really need kespa back
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 28 2018 18:11 GMT
#45
On September 29 2018 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think you should read this thread and what the op argues to understand why i post these things. Otherwise we talk past each other.

I though that was a reaction on me, if not, then ignore me
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
September 28 2018 19:36 GMT
#46
I think we need Tastosis to discuss during their broadcast and see who they agree with :-)
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
September 28 2018 19:41 GMT
#47
Creator beating TY was definitely due to his superior practice environment. There's no way TY can catch up to him with this disadvantage.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
September 29 2018 09:10 GMT
#48
On September 29 2018 04:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Creator beating TY was definitely due to his superior practice environment. There's no way TY can catch up to him with this disadvantage.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why Trap beat Stats as well, and there is no way for Stats to ever catch up to Trap with this disadvantage.......
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
September 29 2018 09:33 GMT
#49
On September 29 2018 18:10 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2018 04:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Creator beating TY was definitely due to his superior practice environment. There's no way TY can catch up to him with this disadvantage.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why Trap beat Stats as well, and there is no way for Stats to ever catch up to Trap with this disadvantage.......

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RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
Profile Joined July 2018
58 Posts
October 10 2018 20:17 GMT
#50
Too much biased fanboism and propaganda even get blamed by other foreign fans. And if he only had knowledge about sc2. But apparently he does not either.
blanca12
Profile Joined October 2018
3 Posts
October 11 2018 01:12 GMT
#51
It is certainly true that teams disbanding and thus players retiring had a negative impact on the korean scene, less talent and thus less possible competition. We mostly have the top players still playing though, the players who had peaks before and showed they could be champions in the kespa era, so i wouldn't look at it too negatively. If anything the lack of new blood is something one should be concerned with, but that was also the case during the kespa time.
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