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Poopi
France12761 Posts
Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament. Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On August 16 2018 16:53 Torrefy wrote: Seriously? This is what you're freaking out about? This? "My PvT is pretty good but, I'm just sad I didn't get to show it this tournament because Maru just proxied me and I didn't defend the proxies well enough to even get into the mid game. But I think my PvT's pretty good actually." This is the "taunt" you're so upset about? This is "calling out Maru"? Not to mention here is the very first thing Neeb says in his interview: "I really thought I was just going to lose to Impact 2-0 or something. So it feels nice to go through but, I don't think my run has been that impressive so far. So I'll try to show way better games for the round of eight." Damn! What arrogance! What angst! In fact he even supported one of the exact points you're trying to make, that his path hasn't been that impressive! How dare he. You are either a bad troll or the most belligerent Korean elitist on this site. You've only been posting for a month and almost every single post is shitting on foreign players in some way. Especially the top foreigners like Serral and now Neeb. I remember you from the GSL vs the World threads, lets see what you had to say: This one was nice and ironic Ouch, how'd that one turn out for you? Hmmm Yes, that's all Serral did to reach the Ro4 at Katowice. Oh you know except go 6-1 against Rogue, Zest and Impact in the group stages. Did we forget that part, or it just didn't support the narrative we were trying to make? And when Serral loses to Classic it was important but when he beat Classic it was irrelevant. But the pro-foreigners are the ones who are biased! Lol. Getting some more digs in, at Showtime this time. Foreigners are bad and if they ever win it was lucky and irrelevant! Whoops LOL Ok so you hate Serral, Showtime, Neeb, Maynarde and Rotti, and foreign events are irrelevant. How do you feel about Reynor? Seriously, do you even watch foreign starcraft? Or did you just see the name Reynor, look him up Liquipedia and say "no results, must be a shitter!" "Gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail" LOL. You do know he just turned 16 a month ago right? And before that he couldn't play in WCS tournaments? As far as I know he has played in three offline events this year: WESG, WCS Valencia, and GSL. So how'd he do? At WESG he made the Ro8 and lost to Maru, beating every foreign player he met along the way. At WCS Valencia he got first in his group in Stage 1, Stage 2, AND Stage 3, went 3-0 against Special in the Ro16 then lost to Serral in the Ro8. Ok, so he made the Round of 8 at both events, beat every single foreign player he met along the way in both events, and both of his losses were to the overwhelming favorites and eventual champions. This is him getting "trashed at events against foreigners without fail" and getting "continually owned at foreigner events"? Two events where he beat every foreign player he faced except for Serral? It seems very clear from the things you say that you know nothing about any of these players but are antagonistically shitting on them solely because they're not Korean. Even your very first post on this site was to shit on Serral. Again, you are either a troll or Korean elitist to a disgusting degree and mean about it. Hopefully everyone will learn to ignore anything you say until you actually have some clue about the players you're talking about and don't spend 80% of your time bad mouthing players because they had the audacity to be non-Korean. Savage! Well done! | ||
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nadavu
44 Posts
On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote: Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit. Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament. Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately. I wouldn't say that Neeb looked bad against Maru, exactly, as there wasn't much of him to see, unfortunately... Neeb looks bad against any kind of "dedicated aggression", as NoRegret puts it, and this, I feel, is what has been keeping him back throughout 2018. I think back to Blizzcon 2017, when Neeb took his first series against Rouge, beating him to a pulp on the super late game. soO is watching, of course, and the very next game he goes for a 2-base build and kills Neeb twice without much trouble. Then it's Rouge's turn for the rematch, so of course he follows soO's example, and Neeb's out. I feel that ever since, Koreans view Neeb as someone you should always try to break on the early game and get an easy win. That's pretty much how Dark manhandled him lately. Maybe if Reynor would have adopted that frame of mind, he'd come out second in the group... Honestly, I think that Reynor has a better chance in the RO8 than Neeb, because he hasn't been figured out by the Koreans to the extent that Neeb had. But my heart, ever since that KeSPA Cup in 2016, yearns for Neeb to go on another miracle run. The problem is, no matter how good he gets in the late game, he's still gonna get stomped on if he doesn't do something to counter the cheese that he needs to assume is coming his way. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44043 Posts
On August 16 2018 15:46 Shellshock wrote: Huk had a solid Ro8 run back in the day too but then he ran into Mvp and got annihilated. not that it was exclusive to Huk when it came to facing Mvp. It was like peak Mvp too. Late 2011 Very true! I somehow forgot about HuK as well. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote: Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit. Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament. Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately. Because in reddit he probably gets downvoted and no one sees his comment. But here you have to see it unless you remember his username and deliberately skip it. TL paid extension idea: We need a tool to tag people as trolls etc  | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On August 16 2018 12:03 Zzoram wrote: I want Maru to win this season but his play looked really shaky, especially versus Reynor, and his most likely next opponent will be Zerg. We'll see. But someone already said righfully that Maru tends to be kind of shaky in earlier rounds but then kills it in the playoffs. He also didn't look invincible vs Forte, shaky vs Leenock, last season he weirdly struggled vs Patience and in season 1 he lost a match to Keen. I think he is sometimes is somewhat similar to Taeja who also often performed just well enough to beat his opponents. | ||
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Rodya
546 Posts
Reynor might be better in the future, but he only went 2-2 vs classic before his ro16 match and in foreigner events doesn't put up the performances that a top player would against such competition. Anyway - if you think that Neeb's statement isn't "Maru just proxied me, I'm really good in this matchup I'd probably beat him in a REAL series", then I don't know what else to say to you :p | ||
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Rodya
546 Posts
On August 16 2018 19:36 Poopi wrote: Pretty sure this is the guy who came to the Power Rank thread after Serral won GSL vs The World and managed to say Serral isn't even top 10 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of trolling, but I don't really get why do that here on TL where people are kind of already korean biased compared to reddit. Kind of a shame for Reynor to be out after almost topping the group / 2-0ing Maru, but that's something that happens often in GSL and that's why all in all it's such a difficult tournament. Neeb looked so bad against Maru, yet he was the one to come out second ultimately. This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10", I said that winning the weekend vacation tournament GSL vs The World doesnt make him top 2. He was overrated in previous PRs so they increased his rank from overrated to overrated after the win. Serral is top 8-12 in my opinion. Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!") | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote: Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them?? Because they are an eyesore. | ||
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Zephyp
238 Posts
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote: This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10", I said that winning the weekend vacation tournament GSL vs The World doesnt make him top 2. He was overrated in previous PRs so they increased his rank from overrated to overrated after the win. Serral is top 8-12 in my opinion. Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!") On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote: Easy. Serral has had one tournament that he performed well in that had Koreans in it. Stats has had many of recent memory. He made a GSL finals this year after all and won a supertournament. Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still. Yeah, sure. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
And I guess I'll join in to feed the troll. On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote: This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10", I said that winning the weekend vacation tournament GSL vs The World doesnt make him top 2. He was overrated in previous PRs so they increased his rank from overrated to overrated after the win. Serral is top 8-12 in my opinion. Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!") So then you go from one kinda extreme to another extreme. Like who are the 9-13... I mean 7-11 better players at the moment (and why)? And I guess you regard Lambo quite highly if Serral beating him 3-0 makes Serral jump up a couple of spots. On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote: Serral won a weekend for fun vacation tournament. Congrats to him - but it is nothing compared to GSL. Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still. On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote: Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them?? Or they've just read threads, and your posts always happen stick out because of how mind-boggling they are. | ||
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Jimmon
United States112 Posts
On August 16 2018 08:31 ThunderJunk wrote: Reynor legit almost had Maru. He got a little panicked with his vipers and spent too much time targeting Thors with his hydras, though. SPOT ON. I was thinking the whole time, "If he just gets the tanks, ez mode afterwards." I think if he just control well during that fight, the game was straigh over and Reynor would have 2-0'd him. But then again, Neeb wouldn't have been able to beat Maru in my opinion in the advancing match, and I'm a huge Neeb fan, so I was very happy Maru won.  I think if Neeb goes against a zerg in RO8, possibly Dark OR Rogue (I think it's super possible), then Neeb takes ANOTHER KOREAN TOURNAMENT NERD CHILLS ROTTIIII | ||
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dr3am_b3ing
Canada188 Posts
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On August 17 2018 00:20 Jimmon wrote: SPOT ON. I was thinking the whole time, "If he just gets the tanks, ez mode afterwards." I think if he just control well during that fight, the game was straigh over and Reynor would have 2-0'd him. But then again, Neeb wouldn't have been able to beat Maru in my opinion in the advancing match, and I'm a huge Neeb fan, so I was very happy Maru won. I think if Neeb goes against a zerg in RO8, possibly Dark OR Rogue (I think it's super possible), then Neeb takes ANOTHER KOREAN TOURNAMENT NERD CHILLS ROTTIIII Neeb has a good PvZ but Dark legit shat on him multiple times, sometimes with agressive builds. Rogue should be an easier opponent than Dark imo. Especially since Dark must be super pissed off from his loss against Serral, you get revenge where you can and foreign blood is still foreign blood :D | ||
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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Torrefy
41 Posts
On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote: Torrefy are you stalking me or something? How come you remember all my posts despite there not being that many of them?? I remember because I replied to one of your posts in the GSL vs the World preview thread, where you said Serral would get 4-0'd and I said there was noone in the world who was a favorite to beat Serral 4-0, even Maru. (Not to just beat him, but specifically to beat him 4-0) Then you and several other posters jumped in to tell me that "Maru would not only 4-0 Serral, he would go out of his way to do it in the most humiliating fashion possible", "Serral vs. Maru would be a complete curb stomping by Maru", and this one is from you "Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru" And you may not know this but you can look up users posts on this site. Don't worry, I'm not keeping a file. On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote: Reynor might be better in the future, but he only went 2-2 vs classic before his ro16 match and in foreigner events doesn't put up the performances that a top player would against such competition. Forgetting whether or not this is even true, which is subjective and debatable, this isn't even what you said. You said, not just once but three separate times, that "Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail." This is literally demonstrably false. Unless you consider going 10-0 in matches and 23-2 in maps against all foreigners not named Serral as getting trashed against foreigners without fail. You literally made this fact up and posted it three separate times for the express purpose of making Reynor look bad. Either that or you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about and you were just spewing nonsense with no care at all whether it was even close to true. Neither one of these should be acceptable. On August 16 2018 23:45 Rodya wrote: Anyway - if you think that Neeb's statement isn't "Maru just proxied me, I'm really good in this matchup I'd probably beat him in a REAL series", then I don't know what else to say to you :p If YOU really think that this https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTime especially immediately proceeded by this https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHogu is Neeb saying "I'd probably beat him a REAL series" then you might need to consider that you're just looking for reasons to feel insulted. In fact you were so personally insulted by Neebs outrageous "taunting" of Maru that you had to go after HIM personally! Calling him "awkward" and "an angsty child" (I mean really, can't you just FEEL the angst in those clips?" On August 16 2018 10:45 Rodya wrote: Calling out Maru? Are you kidding me? If neeb was a player of Maru's caliber I could see where you're coming from perhaps, but Neeb is no where close to Maru's skill level. It's not banter it's delusion, thinking that his inability to survive past 3 minutes means hes not the worst player to make ro8 in years. Personality? Neeb's "personality" is a chain of forced awkward statements. He doesn't look "cool" for what he said, he looks like an angsty child who can't accept being outclassed. I'm sorry but it's just disrespectful to taunt the reigning champion and favorite to win the tournament, especially after getting soaked. Notice that when Dark loses, he doesn't disrespect his opponents, he's respectful and just practices to get better. I especially like how you made sure to slip in there that a KOREAN doesn't disrespect his opponents, not like that baddy Neeb. Nice On August 16 2018 09:25 Rodya wrote: The fact that he had the audacity to taunt Maru, the greatest player alive despite his limping into the ro8 with a lucky bracket speaks wonders about his character.. Yours too my friend On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote: This thread is not about me, but if you insist on talking about me then: I didn't say Serral "isn't even top 10" You did On August 13 2018 11:10 Rodya wrote: Serral is rank 10-14 in my book still. On August 16 2018 23:48 Rodya wrote: Btw if you don't like me so much you can always just... hm... ignore me! (that's what I do to most people posting things like "Serral is the best player in the world!") The goal is to get you to stop posting biased nonsense that you literally haven't even bothered to fact check. But yes, failing that then at least now everyone will know to ignore you. | ||
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JoFar
31 Posts
)I mean, it's fine to be a fanboy, obviously big part of this forum is about that But being so biased to ignore evrything and just throwing around alternative facts ... that's rediculous over time. BTT: Was a bit surprised, too. As well Reynor doing that good against Maru (it really was close for a game most of the people would have assumed a safe 2-0 for Maru) as Neeb beeting Reynor. But in the end it was of course just cleverness ... Neeb prepared for pretty much one match-up, while Reynor seemed to have prepared for all three of them. Guess it's a bit about Experience ... of course Reynor lacks a bit regarding his age. But i'm sure we can expect a lot of him in the coming years, maybe he even can become a Serral 2.0 ... | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
I think if Neeb genuinely did taunt Maru (he didn't really), it'd be fun times anyway. Banter is good, and i highly doubt Neeb disrespects any of the Korean pros, especially Maru. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10096 Posts
On August 17 2018 01:23 Torrefy wrote: I remember because I replied to one of your posts in the GSL vs the World preview thread, where you said Serral would get 4-0'd and I said there was noone in the world who was a favorite to beat Serral 4-0, even Maru. (Not to just beat him, but specifically to beat him 4-0) Then you and several other posters jumped in to tell me that "Maru would not only 4-0 Serral, he would go out of his way to do it in the most humiliating fashion possible", "Serral vs. Maru would be a complete curb stomping by Maru", and this one is from you "Serral has no hope against Inno or Maru" And you may not know this but you can look up users posts on this site. Don't worry, I'm not keeping a file. Forgetting whether or not this is even true, which is subjective and debatable, this isn't even what you said. You said, not just once but three separate times, that "Reynor gets trashed at events against foreigners without fail." This is literally demonstrably false. Unless you consider going 10-0 in matches and 23-2 in maps against all foreigners not named Serral as getting trashed against foreigners without fail. You literally made this fact up and posted it three separate times for the express purpose of making Reynor look bad. Either that or you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about and you were just spewing nonsense with no care at all whether it was even close to true. Neither one of these should be acceptable. If YOU really think that this https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderDirtyHawkItsBoshyTime especially immediately proceeded by this https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringCuriousAniseMikeHogu is Neeb saying "I'd probably beat him a REAL series" then you might need to consider that you're just looking for reasons to feel insulted. In fact you were so personally insulted by Neebs outrageous "taunting" of Maru that you had to go after HIM personally! Calling him "awkward" and "an angsty child" (I mean really, can't you just FEEL the angst in those clips?" I especially like how you made sure to slip in there that a KOREAN doesn't disrespect his opponents, not like that baddy Neeb. Nice Yours too my friend You did The goal is to get you to stop posting biased nonsense that you literally haven't even bothered to fact check. But yes, failing that then at least now everyone will know to ignore you. This and your first takedown are now Posts of the Year. And also ranked #1 in Top 10 moments before disaster. Seriously, can someone nominate this man to the next TLCMAT? He has my vote. Eloquent, followed all guidelines, and brutally savage. | ||
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