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Serral defeats Stats to win GSL vs. The World - Page 4

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Darth Caedus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States326 Posts
August 06 2018 02:01 GMT
#61
Polt: "Those auto-turrets are cute." 10/26/13 commenting on MMA vs. Maru.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 06 2018 02:26 GMT
#62
On August 06 2018 09:58 GGzerG wrote:
Wow nice Serral, foreign bonjwa


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Voca
Profile Joined July 2018
1 Post
August 06 2018 02:56 GMT
#63
Serral is god
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
August 06 2018 03:14 GMT
#64
I was saying how beating foreigners in region lock means nothing and that serral was being hyped up, where as naniwa and stephano proved themselves by going toe to toe w the best. Well I take it back serral is a Destroyer GOD!!! Holy shit. Looks like he has a serious chance at blizzcon.
Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
August 06 2018 03:34 GMT
#65
If Serral wins blizzcon does region lock get removed? Or like Finland graduates and moves back in the Korea leagues
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
August 06 2018 05:26 GMT
#66
Congratulations to Serral, was a great finals. I didn't believe the hype and thought he would get quashed, but happy to be proven wrong.

I guess we should start petitioning Blizzard for a Korean SC2 GSL "welfare" package as Serral will be taking their prizemoney? .
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Adramelech1
Profile Joined March 2018
19 Posts
August 06 2018 05:30 GMT
#67
THE KING IN THE NORTH
shadow111
Profile Joined August 2011
29 Posts
August 06 2018 05:59 GMT
#68
ALL HAIL THE KING!!! Let's see if he can keep it up the next time he meets the top koreans at an offline event. For now, all we can do is stop calling Mary our undisputed #1
uummpaa
Profile Joined July 2018
238 Posts
August 06 2018 06:05 GMT
#69
i really thougt stats would do it, but the games serral won where dominant and convincing.
it was a great final overall

Well deserved trophy for serral, and now we all can get excited for november, not only due to temperature reasons ^^
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 10:20:40
August 06 2018 10:19 GMT
#70
On August 06 2018 00:01 Riner1212 wrote:
I have to congratulate serial for displaying great perseverance/prowess to win the tournament, but winning one tournament does not make him a god.


expect he won his last 4 tournaments ...

On August 06 2018 12:34 Kingsky wrote:
If Serral wins blizzcon does region lock get removed? Or like Finland graduates and moves back in the Korea leagues


no it just shows then region lock was a great idea and works to make good europe talents
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 06 2018 10:24 GMT
#71
On August 06 2018 10:20 NBird wrote:
Is there a place to watch VODs of the series? Work has prevented me from watching the series and afreeca hasn't had it on youtube to watch. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.


i am wondering that in time of twitch and people knowing the twitch channel people still have to ask

its just in the video section of the stream, but also uploaded on yt by afreeca
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
SpaWnvERtiGO
Profile Joined November 2016
110 Posts
August 06 2018 10:45 GMT
#72
Whoever noticed Serral using the minimap....
Good observation.... He and Raynor do a couple of things the Korean Zergs have lacked imo....

1. They understand Zerg speed, and how to use lings to counter attack...

2. When I play zerg, I ALWAYS make lings, if you dont you arnt a good Zerg. It's like a Terran who cant stutter.
I use the minimap to inject, set waypoints. send units to patrol....

3. Unlike MOST of these Zergs, I think Serral actually USES different control groups, hence his multitasking overwhelming his opponents.

Once I started doing this, I got a lot better really fast....
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 11:47:25
August 06 2018 11:05 GMT
#73
Feels super weird that the ryökäle actually did it. Still haven't quite processed it entirely.

But would go with Serral on that I still wouldn't quite consider him the best after this one premier win even when significant, but would say it's quite reasonable to currently consider him as a top-5 player.

Also a special thanks to the mods for not banning Finland for a couple of days for the gifs. :>

On August 06 2018 10:20 NBird wrote:
Is there a place to watch VODs of the series? Work has prevented me from watching the series and afreeca hasn't had it on youtube to watch. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AfreecaTV/videos
why even
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 06 2018 11:07 GMT
#74
On August 06 2018 19:45 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote:
Whoever noticed Serral using the minimap....
Good observation.... He and Raynor do a couple of things the Korean Zergs have lacked imo....

1. They understand Zerg speed, and how to use lings to counter attack...

2. When I play zerg, I ALWAYS make lings, if you dont you arnt a good Zerg. It's like a Terran who cant stutter.
I use the minimap to inject, set waypoints. send units to patrol....

3. Unlike MOST of these Zergs, I think Serral actually USES different control groups, hence his multitasking overwhelming his opponents.

Once I started doing this, I got a lot better really fast....


See you in GSL soon bud.
uummpaa
Profile Joined July 2018
238 Posts
August 06 2018 11:36 GMT
#75
On August 06 2018 19:45 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote:
Whoever noticed Serral using the minimap....
Good observation.... He and Raynor do a couple of things the Korean Zergs have lacked imo....

1. They understand Zerg speed, and how to use lings to counter attack...

2. When I play zerg, I ALWAYS make lings, if you dont you arnt a good Zerg. It's like a Terran who cant stutter.
I use the minimap to inject, set waypoints. send units to patrol....

3. Unlike MOST of these Zergs, I think Serral actually USES different control groups, hence his multitasking overwhelming his opponents.

Once I started doing this, I got a lot better really fast....


damn, i never noticed korean zergs lacked the single most basic skills of their race.

an additional tipp from me to dark, rouge and soo (i know they are reading this):
queens have a skill called "Spawn Creep Tumor", give it a try sometime, you'll be pleasantly suprised




Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 06 2018 13:06 GMT
#76
On August 06 2018 19:19 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2018 00:01 Riner1212 wrote:
I have to congratulate serial for displaying great perseverance/prowess to win the tournament, but winning one tournament does not make him a god.


expect he won his last 4 tournaments ..

He won IEM Katowice and WeSG?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
uummpaa
Profile Joined July 2018
238 Posts
August 06 2018 13:21 GMT
#77
On August 06 2018 22:06 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2018 19:19 Drake wrote:
On August 06 2018 00:01 Riner1212 wrote:
I have to congratulate serial for displaying great perseverance/prowess to win the tournament, but winning one tournament does not make him a god.


expect he won his last 4 tournaments ..

He won IEM Katowice and WeSG?


right he was only top4 in those, so he just won the last three tournaments he entered, which shouldn't change the point to much i presume
b0ub0u
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada445 Posts
August 06 2018 13:55 GMT
#78
That 360 surround was from which game again?

Thanks
In the swarm we trust
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 06 2018 14:02 GMT
#79
On August 06 2018 22:21 uummpaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2018 22:06 Fango wrote:
On August 06 2018 19:19 Drake wrote:
On August 06 2018 00:01 Riner1212 wrote:
I have to congratulate serial for displaying great perseverance/prowess to win the tournament, but winning one tournament does not make him a god.


expect he won his last 4 tournaments ..

He won IEM Katowice and WeSG?


right he was only top4 in those, so he just won the last three tournaments he entered, which shouldn't change the point to much i presume

No but are wcs wins really that valuble? The guy said winning one event doesn't make you a god, which is true. So I'd assume winning easy events doesn't either.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
JoFar
Profile Joined January 2017
31 Posts
August 06 2018 14:20 GMT
#80
So I'd assume winning easy events doesn't either.


Is it though?

Honestly, that's just exactly the bias everyone was talking about. Only Korea is good, all other regions and players are shitty ... in the end it's, as i said, just bias ... with no truth behind it.

I mean, for sure you can say there are smaller events and bigger events ... regarding pricemoney, viewership and so on. Like Homestory Cup for example.
But calling WCS an easy event which doesn't matter is just nonsense. Especially if you can manage to win several of them consecutive. You can only manage something like that if you are that good that you can also win against the top koreans. If anything, Serral has proven that by now. He doesn't need to play GSL seasons to prove that. He has proven already, and maybe he can continue a similar run at this years blizzcon.

Of course he is by far the best foreigner right now. But others are getting better, too.
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