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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37087 Posts
June 21 2018 18:18 GMT
#21
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 21 2018 18:51 GMT
#22
On June 22 2018 03:18 Seeker wrote:
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/


Amongst players still active in Korea in 2018, he was the last big name without a Premier under his belt, wasn't he?

Losira, Patience and KeeN are the next big names, but they are way lesser players than ByuL.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 21 2018 18:58 GMT
#23
That's too bad. I was hoping his brief revival in early 2017 after an awful 2016 wasn't a one-off, but he hasn't shown anything since. Korea needs its zergs.

Farewell ByuL.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 21 2018 18:59 GMT
#24
On June 22 2018 03:51 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 03:18 Seeker wrote:
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/


Amongst players still active in Korea in 2018, he was the last big name without a Premier under his belt, wasn't he?

Losira, Patience and KeeN are the next big names, but they are way lesser players than ByuL.

Patience won Homestory Cup XIV and Losira a Code A in 2011 back when it was a seperate tournament
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fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
June 21 2018 19:01 GMT
#25
Sad. I really hope he has a new exciting path in his life ahead of him.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 21 2018 19:03 GMT
#26
On June 22 2018 03:59 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 03:51 Serimek wrote:
On June 22 2018 03:18 Seeker wrote:
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/


Amongst players still active in Korea in 2018, he was the last big name without a Premier under his belt, wasn't he?

Losira, Patience and KeeN are the next big names, but they are way lesser players than ByuL.

Patience won Homestory Cup XIV and Losira a Code A in 2011 back when it was a seperate tournament


I wasn't aware HSC were considered Premier. That's a bit silly.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
June 21 2018 19:08 GMT
#27
On June 22 2018 02:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
A sad day, but it seemed like he was ready to check out as far back as the middle of 2017. Shame he couldn't get the gold in the end but at least he left his mark with one of the strongest peaks from a Zerg. His LBM was amazing when he was on his game.

He left many great games behind too:

+ Show Spoiler +





















you forgot Byul vs Revival, best game of all time
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
June 21 2018 19:16 GMT
#28
On June 22 2018 03:51 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 03:18 Seeker wrote:
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/


Amongst players still active in Korea in 2018, he was the last big name without a Premier under his belt, wasn't he?

Losira, Patience and KeeN are the next big names, but they are way lesser players than ByuL.


wait.... losira and keen haven't retired????? whoa
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 21 2018 19:22 GMT
#29
On June 22 2018 04:16 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 03:51 Serimek wrote:
On June 22 2018 03:18 Seeker wrote:
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/


Amongst players still active in Korea in 2018, he was the last big name without a Premier under his belt, wasn't he?

Losira, Patience and KeeN are the next big names, but they are way lesser players than ByuL.


wait.... losira and keen haven't retired????? whoa


They both are qualified for GSL Season 3 actually
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 21 2018 19:22 GMT
#30
On June 22 2018 04:16 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 03:51 Serimek wrote:
On June 22 2018 03:18 Seeker wrote:
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/


Amongst players still active in Korea in 2018, he was the last big name without a Premier under his belt, wasn't he?

Losira, Patience and KeeN are the next big names, but they are way lesser players than ByuL.


wait.... losira and keen haven't retired????? whoa

They're both in GSL next season. They look pretty good sometimes as well, just not consistently.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 21 2018 19:24 GMT
#31
Losira is quietly in every GSL and Keen was in the last one maybe the one before too.
TheWildShooter
Profile Joined September 2011
79 Posts
June 21 2018 19:30 GMT
#32
You can thank foreign players and the whole region lock thing for this. His GSL spot was stolen by Neeb, specifically.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 21 2018 19:46 GMT
#33
On June 22 2018 04:08 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 02:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
A sad day, but it seemed like he was ready to check out as far back as the middle of 2017. Shame he couldn't get the gold in the end but at least he left his mark with one of the strongest peaks from a Zerg. His LBM was amazing when he was on his game.

He left many great games behind too:

+ Show Spoiler +


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJY73yPwTaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njHEbgEBFn8&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9iAlfD7Io&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHkjTvftLsc&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtsbRhJH7uo&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uIa0Iu-Kz4&t=0s8&index=323

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5SU_KU4T6Y&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TvIk2wocbY&t=0s

https://youtu.be/267D4w-zU5Y?t=1967


you forgot Byul vs Revival, best game of all time


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spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
June 21 2018 20:22 GMT
#34
One of the best Zergs of HotS. Sad to see him not be able to keep up in LotV.

I see lots of people blaming region lock, I do not think that that is as big of a factor in this case as ByuL really didn't compete in many of the online leagues/cups that most Korean pros rely on for money. Though it is my personal opinion that more should be done to foster/keep Korean Code A level players much like WCS Challenger does for EU/NA.

Will miss you ByuL! Remember lots of his emotional finals, bittersweet memories.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 20:25:06
June 21 2018 20:23 GMT
#35
On June 22 2018 04:16 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 03:51 Serimek wrote:
On June 22 2018 03:18 Seeker wrote:
Damn... He retired before he could ever win a championship... Poor ByuL :/


Amongst players still active in Korea in 2018, he was the last big name without a Premier under his belt, wasn't he?

Losira, Patience and KeeN are the next big names, but they are way lesser players than ByuL.


wait.... losira and keen haven't retired????? whoa

lol
Losira last gsl in which he did not qualify to, was 2015 season 2
for KeeN it was 2016 season 2
they still play in a ton of minor tournaments around so... :thinking:
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xRS Forsaken
Profile Joined July 2017
9 Posts
June 21 2018 20:26 GMT
#36
On June 22 2018 04:30 TheWildShooter wrote:
You can thank foreign players and the whole region lock thing for this. His GSL spot was stolen by Neeb, specifically.


Neeb 2-0’d him. I’d say it was earned. Taeja almost qualified while still being in the military. Parting (who beat byul as well to qualify), mma, among other lesser tier Koreans who made it showed Byul must not have been practicing too much knowing his end was nearing. This was just the nail in the coffin.
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
June 21 2018 20:40 GMT
#37
On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and have nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.


What were people saying in the past? "We want the very best" when we had too many Koreans in foreign tournaments. Suck it up and watch the best then.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 21 2018 20:45 GMT
#38
On June 22 2018 05:26 xRS Forsaken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 04:30 TheWildShooter wrote:
You can thank foreign players and the whole region lock thing for this. His GSL spot was stolen by Neeb, specifically.


Neeb 2-0’d him. I’d say it was earned. Taeja almost qualified while still being in the military. Parting (who beat byul as well to qualify), mma, among other lesser tier Koreans who made it showed Byul must not have been practicing too much knowing his end was nearing. This was just the nail in the coffin.

No one's denying that Neeb is good enough to play in GSL. However the point is that Neeb has other events he can compete in as well. He's fine whether he qualifies or not. The same couldn't be said for ByuL.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 21 2018 20:50 GMT
#39
On June 22 2018 05:40 sc-darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and have nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.


What were people saying in the past? "We want the very best" when we had too many Koreans in foreign tournaments. Suck it up and watch the best then.

It's not like NOW CAN THE VERY BEST PLAY OUTSIDE OF KOREA!!!! Fair rules to everyone, not discriminating Koreans would be nice since their scene is dying ATM.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33623 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 21:17:12
June 21 2018 21:02 GMT
#40
On June 22 2018 05:26 xRS Forsaken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 04:30 TheWildShooter wrote:
You can thank foreign players and the whole region lock thing for this. His GSL spot was stolen by Neeb, specifically.


Neeb 2-0’d him. I’d say it was earned. Taeja almost qualified while still being in the military. Parting (who beat byul as well to qualify), mma, among other lesser tier Koreans who made it showed Byul must not have been practicing too much knowing his end was nearing. This was just the nail in the coffin.


Hmm? He pretty directly took his spot, though I can see why "stolen" carries some connotations you'd disagree with. However, if someone said region lock contributed to ByuL retiring, I wouldn't say it's unfair to claim that.

Let's be clear: the current region lock system is EXPLICITLY UNFAIR to Koreans, with the goal of achieving various payoffs (more motivation for foreign pros, more interest in foreign scene, more long-term interest in StarCraft II esports). We don't argue the fairness of region-lock (it's textbook unfair); we argue whether or not the gain is worth it.

Anyway, sad to see ByuL depart. I'll always appreciate him for keeping the most entertaining style of Zerg (muta-ling-bane) alive at the top-tier.
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