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ByuL to retire from SC2

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 21 2018 17:02 GMT
#1


After failing to qualify for GSL Code S, the multitime premier finalist is calling it quits after a 6 year career in SC2.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 18:16:38
June 21 2018 17:10 GMT
#2
Damn, sucks to hear. Sad to see he never got a premier win given his form back in 2015. Good luck to him going forward.
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Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
June 21 2018 17:10 GMT
#3
Wow, this is just sad. Kind of know it is coming as ByuL has been struggling for 2 years now. Well, best of luck to him on his next endeavor.
Aelendis
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium892 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 17:14:20
June 21 2018 17:13 GMT
#4
Yeah this is sad, but I thought it was going to happen eventually...
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 17:19:28
June 21 2018 17:17 GMT
#5
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and have nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland953 Posts
June 21 2018 17:17 GMT
#6
Best of luck to you in whatever you're going to do!
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LTCM
Profile Joined May 2017
174 Posts
June 21 2018 17:18 GMT
#7
On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and having nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.

Yup. It's a disgrace really.
Byun is a convicted match-fixer.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
June 21 2018 17:20 GMT
#8
On June 22 2018 02:18 LTCM wrote:
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On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and having nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.

Yup. It's a disgrace really.


We should either turn off region lock or have an actual region lock.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 17:24:02
June 21 2018 17:23 GMT
#9
On June 22 2018 02:18 LTCM wrote:
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On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and having nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.

Yup. It's a disgrace really.


ByuL probably does not train though. I do agree there are flaws in the system, but when I see that a retired player like TaeJa, for instance, was one series away from qualifying, I feel like ByuL was on a path towards retirement no matter what.
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
June 21 2018 17:24 GMT
#10
It's a pity.. It's really hard, I would prefer double the tournaments, even if they had to split the prize money.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 21 2018 17:28 GMT
#11
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States719 Posts
June 21 2018 17:31 GMT
#12
On June 22 2018 02:18 LTCM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and having nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.

Yup. It's a disgrace really.


Y'all have no information. Very quick to blame region lock. If anything, region lock revived some interest in SC2 for a while.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 21 2018 17:37 GMT
#13
On June 22 2018 02:31 ThunderJunk wrote:
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On June 22 2018 02:18 LTCM wrote:
On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and having nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.

Yup. It's a disgrace really.


Y'all have no information. Very quick to blame region lock. If anything, region lock revived some interest in SC2 for a while.

As shown by the viewership that hasn't changed and non-existent new top players? SC2 is not dead by any means, but it's stagnating for sure.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 21 2018 17:51 GMT
#14
I'm actually surprised ByuL was full-time/part-time up until now. I thought he played on the side.
Oh well. Sucks there's nothing offline in Korea besides GSL.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 17:53:00
June 21 2018 17:51 GMT
#15
A sad day, but it seemed like he was ready to check out as far back as the middle of 2017. Shame he couldn't get the gold in the end but at least he left his mark with one of the strongest peaks from a Zerg. His LBM was amazing when he was on his game.

He left many great games behind too:

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NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 18:01:28
June 21 2018 17:55 GMT
#16
This was inevitable given his recent results. It's a shame given how good of a player he can be. He was the best Zerg at the end of HotS. Probably the best player in sc2 history to have not claimed a championship.

This was actually the main reason I was sad to see Neeb get into GSL over him, the fact it actually happened feels bad
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
June 21 2018 18:02 GMT
#17
Sad to hear this, farewell ByuL.
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Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 18:03:49
June 21 2018 18:03 GMT
#18
Sad for fans, but a good decision i think.

If you're not on top 5 of your race, i don't see how you can survive on korea.

And when you need a kespa team to reach quaterfinals as a zerg, Byul has no chance.

The saddest part is he can probably crush nearly anyone on a foreigner region (on NA for example, i don't think he can beat Serral on EU, but maybe actually).

And when you look GSL qualifier, it looks ten times more interesting than the last competitions we had on foreigner regions.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
June 21 2018 18:03 GMT
#19
On June 22 2018 02:23 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 02:18 LTCM wrote:
On June 22 2018 02:17 Boggyb wrote:
Letting non-Koreans play in the GSL causes Korean pros to retire when they fail to qualify and having nothing to do for half a year. Great region lock there, Blizzard.

Yup. It's a disgrace really.


ByuL probably does not train though. I do agree there are flaws in the system, but when I see that a retired player like TaeJa, for instance, was one series away from qualifying, I feel like ByuL was on a path towards retirement no matter what.


Or the fact that PartinG was able to qualify. Byul reached the ro16 twice last year, got ro4 ST1, ro4 Gyeonggi, and 3rd SSL Season 1.

He was very clearly an upper level player.

This year, he got ro32 twice, reaching the loser's finals twice, and never losing to a foreigner in Code S.

There are indeed flaws with the region lock, but Byul underperforming is not a result of foreigners (especially with formerly retired players coming back and making or almost making it).
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
June 21 2018 18:11 GMT
#20
Thanks for all the cool memories, ByuL!
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