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PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
June 08 2018 19:54 GMT
#101
On June 08 2018 07:23 PuddleZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 00:06 youngjiddle wrote:
brood war fans seething.

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


I like to imagine this happened because of a Brood War fan.

User was warned for this post.



The comedy writes itself.
"Weapons grade autism" - Destiny
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 08 2018 20:51 GMT
#102
If you have a problem with moderation, please take it to website feedback. On a separate note, it was Wax who both warned then temp'd him because of his past mod history. Anyways, website feedback if you have any other questions.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lysergic1
Profile Joined August 2017
21 Posts
June 08 2018 21:03 GMT
#103
On June 08 2018 08:51 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Why sc2 and not BW???


Better game. : ) I've been a Fantasy fan forever, can't wait to see him playing again. Hopefully he won't stall out which seems to be a common problem without team support. (Even better, hope a team picks him up, even something team-lite like Splyce)
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 09 2018 05:03 GMT
#104
On June 08 2018 22:31 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 21:42 Qikz wrote:
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.


Fantasy never came close to winning anything in sc2, he was way better in BW, he probably just like sc2 more or at least the sc2 competitive scene.

He explicitly said he liked SC2 more. Which honestly makes sense, the style of SC2 Terran suited him.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
June 09 2018 08:11 GMT
#105
I am so happy now .. dancing .. I'll go open a beer right now!

Cheers :D
FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-09 10:10:59
June 09 2018 10:08 GMT
#106
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15919 Posts
June 09 2018 10:24 GMT
#107
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.

I think Flash's 2014 were he carried KT to their Proleague title and won IEM Toronto was better than Jaedong's 2013.
People like to only look at high tournament finishes without considering context but Flash faced in general much tougher competition than Jaedong. Except that Blizzcon ofc where Jaedong bested Dear and Maru.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
June 09 2018 11:20 GMT
#108
On June 09 2018 19:24 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.

I think Flash's 2014 were he carried KT to their Proleague title and won IEM Toronto was better than Jaedong's 2013.
People like to only look at high tournament finishes without considering context but Flash faced in general much tougher competition than Jaedong. Except that Blizzcon ofc where Jaedong bested Dear and Maru.


Flash did well when KT won Proleague that year. I remember Flash beating PartinG in the final. And Flash won that one IEM. Compared to say Bisu and Fantasy, Flash did better than them in SC2. But IMO, Flash failed to reach his potential.

By far, Jaedong was the most successful of the BW Bonjwas. The year that Jaedong reached the final of Blizzcon, I considered him to be the best Zerg player.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
June 09 2018 11:29 GMT
#109
doesn't TaeJa finish his service later this year as well?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15919 Posts
June 09 2018 11:39 GMT
#110
On June 09 2018 20:20 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 19:24 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.

I think Flash's 2014 were he carried KT to their Proleague title and won IEM Toronto was better than Jaedong's 2013.
People like to only look at high tournament finishes without considering context but Flash faced in general much tougher competition than Jaedong. Except that Blizzcon ofc where Jaedong bested Dear and Maru.


Flash did well when KT won Proleague that year. I remember Flash beating PartinG in the final. And Flash won that one IEM. Compared to say Bisu and Fantasy, Flash did better than them in SC2. But IMO, Flash failed to reach his potential.

By far, Jaedong was the most successful of the BW Bonjwas. The year that Jaedong reached the final of Blizzcon, I considered him to be the best Zerg player.

His results were inflated due to leaving korea and playing in an easier region. His Blizzcon run was impressive but Flash faced and beat top tier opponents more consistently. Also no way Jaedong was better than Soulkey that year.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
June 09 2018 15:35 GMT
#111
On June 09 2018 14:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 22:31 Nakajin wrote:
On June 08 2018 21:42 Qikz wrote:
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.


Fantasy never came close to winning anything in sc2, he was way better in BW, he probably just like sc2 more or at least the sc2 competitive scene.

He explicitly said he liked SC2 more. Which honestly makes sense, the style of SC2 Terran suited him.


I can see Fantasy being at home with how frantic and fast paced LotV is.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 10 2018 05:40 GMT
#112
Because he knows he can't beat Flash.

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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
June 11 2018 09:11 GMT
#113
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.


Smart to use quotes around BW Bonjwa given neither Jaedong nor Bisu were a bonjwa, but given we talk about Fantasy - even "BW Bonjwa" with quotes is not justified. One OSL does not Bonjwa make thoguh to be fair he was the most consistent among single starleague winners.
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
June 11 2018 18:58 GMT
#114
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar
Greed is good
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 11 2018 19:00 GMT
#115
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
June 11 2018 19:38 GMT
#116
On June 12 2018 04:00 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW

Why do you keep on saying that?
Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
June 11 2018 20:24 GMT
#117
On June 12 2018 04:38 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 04:00 BigFan wrote:
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW

Why do you keep on saying that?



Just him being salty that he isn't playing BW as he hoped he would be playing
"What good fortune for goverments that the people do not think."
ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
June 11 2018 20:25 GMT
#118
On June 12 2018 04:38 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 04:00 BigFan wrote:
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW

Why do you keep on saying that?


As a fan of Fantasy and follower of his play in BW I would like to ask the same question.

Fantasy might not be remembered as a dominant BW champ but with guys like Flash and Jaedong still around why wouldn't Fantasy be able to keep up if he did return to BW and worked hard?
The Terran Prince is now the king. Maru | MMA | Mvp forever
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 11 2018 21:04 GMT
#119
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-11 21:31:12
June 11 2018 21:27 GMT
#120
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Noone keeps up with flash, fantasy would have a way easier time to become a top player in bw (again), something he never even was in sc2 really. Compared to the time he played sc2 last there are less players to compete against so that helps. I see him as a regular ro16 player who sometimes might make a ro8. Not really more than that though, in bw he would arguably do better.
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