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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
June 07 2018 23:23 GMT
#81
Whohooo, that's great news! Also: Fantasy return timing :D
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 07 2018 23:26 GMT
#82
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


How the fuck is that suppose to be a viable buisness model? Or is it only with donation?
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3632 Posts
June 07 2018 23:34 GMT
#83
Yes. Make our FanTaSy come true!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 07 2018 23:42 GMT
#84
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


https://broodwar.fuzic.nl/streams/af-forgg1/

Would you have proof of what you advance ?
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 07 2018 23:51 GMT
#85
Why sc2 and not BW???
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Wrong
Profile Joined March 2010
Mexico10 Posts
June 08 2018 01:44 GMT
#86
Oh yes!
I can't wait to see him compete in SC2 again and hopefully see some outside-the-box plays/strats from him.
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
June 08 2018 02:08 GMT
#87
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 03:10:55
June 08 2018 02:17 GMT
#88
On June 08 2018 08:42 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


https://broodwar.fuzic.nl/streams/af-forgg1/

Would you have proof of what you advance ?


On June 08 2018 08:26 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


How the fuck is that suppose to be a viable buisness model? Or is it only with donation?


Afreeca has a lot of whales that donate a ton of money (balloons). You can look up By.Tyson's numbers, when he was an active streamer he'd get ~75'ish viewers and he'd get about 3k a month, at least that's what i remember reading.

But yea Afreeca streamers mainly rely on donations, lucky for them even the low end pros still get a lot of donation and sponsored/event matches, it's more than enough to justify being a full time BW streamer.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/512299-top-10-earners-of-july

^ For example you can see how much Free was getting back in 2016, he was like a middle of the pack streamer. There's not much separation between midd to low tier pro BW streamers.
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
June 08 2018 02:23 GMT
#89
I really hope he sticks with it, I was so excited when ForGG came back to see him mech in LotV and then he left for BW :C
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 08 2018 02:38 GMT
#90
wow he's been retired that long?
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 08 2018 09:02 GMT
#91
Fantastic news ! Fantasy my favourite Korean Terran in Brood war and hopefully in SC2 now
Seanzk
Profile Joined September 2012
China609 Posts
June 08 2018 09:18 GMT
#92
NICE!
雖千萬人 吾往矣
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3775 Posts
June 08 2018 09:45 GMT
#93
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.

EG left SC2, why would they sign up mostly forgotten SC2 player that used to be almost legend in Brood War days?

Honestly I can't see why any SC2 would sign him up. Fantasy has never been top dog in the game and coming out of military service - I don't see him making any kind of splash.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12070 Posts
June 08 2018 12:42 GMT
#94
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.
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Matroid_Prime
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada59 Posts
June 08 2018 12:51 GMT
#95
Welcome back Fantasy, love your style of play. Best of luck as you return to form!
Lifelong fan of Starcraft
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5981 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 13:23:17
June 08 2018 13:22 GMT
#96
Interestng thread. Feels like 2011-2012
FBH #1!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 08 2018 13:31 GMT
#97
On June 08 2018 21:42 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.


Fantasy never came close to winning anything in sc2, he was way better in BW, he probably just like sc2 more or at least the sc2 competitive scene.
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 08 2018 14:34 GMT
#98
Well, as others have said, I too would have preferred him returing to BW. I hope he finds success in SC2, though.
Flash | Mvp
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
June 08 2018 16:59 GMT
#99
My favourite player of all time

I do wish he returned to BW instead, but I'll be super happy watching him play SC2 as well.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 08 2018 17:05 GMT
#100
A fantasy ... came true!!!

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
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