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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-21 12:15:09
May 19 2018 17:16 GMT
#1
Hello,

SC2 is sadly missing native discord integration, so I went ahead and did it myself.

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You can find the source code and more information here: https://github.com/HorizonShadow/SCRichPresence

You can download it here: https://github.com/HorizonShadow/SCRichPresence/releases

This uses the StarCraft 2 Client Api, and is therefor perfectly legal: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/sc2/topic/20748195420

Disclaimer: I am not a c++ programmer. If you know c++ and see something egregious, please submit and issue or a pull request.
Cereal
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
May 20 2018 05:04 GMT
#2
Woah sweet bro, now make it for BroodWar lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
May 20 2018 06:24 GMT
#3
never heard of Discord...i will google it...oh its bascially Teamspeak. Okay!
Thanks for the effort for coding an Addon. Always nice to see people putting effort in their favorite games or apps!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
May 20 2018 07:01 GMT
#4
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.
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SMOrangeUtan
Profile Joined May 2018
21 Posts
May 20 2018 16:16 GMT
#5
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


It feels as though noone really uses the ingame voice chat though.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 16:47:08
May 20 2018 16:22 GMT
#6
On May 21 2018 01:16 SMOrangeUtan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


It feels as though noone really uses the ingame voice chat though.


I don't think many people are aware of B.net voice chat tbh. I just found out about it a couple months ago. It also uses less processing power than discord and I don't have to worry about those annoying discord emails ever. B.net voice chat is one of blizzard's best implementations for b.net 2.0. It's simple and easy to use. I don't have a need for 3rd party software anymore, it's great. It makes sense to use b.nets built in voice chat feature instead of discord. B.net voice chat provides everything you need to properly run a group. Discord also sucks because it often causes lag or input issues.
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SageFantasma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
May 20 2018 17:29 GMT
#7
On May 21 2018 01:22 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2018 01:16 SMOrangeUtan wrote:
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


It feels as though noone really uses the ingame voice chat though.


I don't think many people are aware of B.net voice chat tbh. I just found out about it a couple months ago. It also uses less processing power than discord and I don't have to worry about those annoying discord emails ever. B.net voice chat is one of blizzard's best implementations for b.net 2.0. It's simple and easy to use. I don't have a need for 3rd party software anymore, it's great. It makes sense to use b.nets built in voice chat feature instead of discord. B.net voice chat provides everything you need to properly run a group. Discord also sucks because it often causes lag or input issues.

B.net's VoIP has definitely come a long way, but it is far from the ideal solution. It isn't great for larger communities, nor communities that play more than Blizzard games. Discord is great for both of those things, which is why it's so popular. It accomplishes everything B.net VoIP does and more, no need to fiddle with the B.net one unless you have computing issues like you do.

Anyways, this is an awesome add-on! I love the Rich Presence, I'm excited to use it soon
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 17:52:04
May 20 2018 17:44 GMT
#8
On May 21 2018 02:29 SageFantasma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2018 01:22 ReachTheSky wrote:
On May 21 2018 01:16 SMOrangeUtan wrote:
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


It feels as though noone really uses the ingame voice chat though.


I don't think many people are aware of B.net voice chat tbh. I just found out about it a couple months ago. It also uses less processing power than discord and I don't have to worry about those annoying discord emails ever. B.net voice chat is one of blizzard's best implementations for b.net 2.0. It's simple and easy to use. I don't have a need for 3rd party software anymore, it's great. It makes sense to use b.nets built in voice chat feature instead of discord. B.net voice chat provides everything you need to properly run a group. Discord also sucks because it often causes lag or input issues.

B.net's VoIP has definitely come a long way, but it is far from the ideal solution. It isn't great for larger communities, nor communities that play more than Blizzard games. Discord is great for both of those things, which is why it's so popular. It accomplishes everything B.net VoIP does and more, no need to fiddle with the B.net one unless you have computing issues like you do.

Anyways, this is an awesome add-on! I love the Rich Presence, I'm excited to use it soon


I can appreciate your passion for discord. To bring you up to speed as you are mistaken(not wrong, just mistaken ), B.net voice has no issues with large groups or communities. The quality stays the same and it is crystal clear. Discord has played a role in the past and was good at what it does, however, It has become obsolete. Also, You don't even need to own a blizzard game to use the b.net application, it's completely free and registering a b.net account is easier than discord. There is also less hassle with using the b.net application and uses less processing power. Lastly, I don't have computing issues, I just prefer to use the least amount of processing power possible. If discord could do what B.net does without causing random input issues and using less processing power, it'd be worth it. Unfortunately that isn't the case. Gotta go with the b.net application, it's official and runs flawlessly. I don't see a reason to use a sub-par program with endless email notifications(even if you opt out of notifications, you still end up receiving some). Besides, less and less people are using discord and deciding to use the official built-in b.net voice chat. It also requires less effort and has a very simple/easy to use interface. Don't get left behind
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 18:13:59
May 20 2018 17:58 GMT
#9
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


Battle.net is pretty terrible as a general forum / group IM / large group voice chat replacement and lots of content doesn't make sense there even if they'd allow it - having a battle.net group for kerbal space program or for posting elf girls would be ridiculous but good luck trying to push it 'cause they'll take mod actions against your account - with all of your game licenses on it - if they find out because you're not actually allowed to post stuff that isn't PG13 on battle.net.

Discord isn't great for voice chat of more than a small handful of people either because they don't have appropriate voice activation controls (bnet client doesn't either) so everyone has to choose between using push to talk or sending a ton of background noise. I'm leaning on Teamspeak for that until they fix it but i've been waiting years so they might never bother.

Also don't see where you're coming from on the processing power thing, over a 60 second period discord is using 0.03% (as in 1/3000'th) of my CPU according to the resource manager. The blizzard update process from the battle.net client is using 0.02% just by itself.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 20 2018 18:05 GMT
#10
On May 21 2018 02:44 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2018 02:29 SageFantasma wrote:
On May 21 2018 01:22 ReachTheSky wrote:
On May 21 2018 01:16 SMOrangeUtan wrote:
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


It feels as though noone really uses the ingame voice chat though.


I don't think many people are aware of B.net voice chat tbh. I just found out about it a couple months ago. It also uses less processing power than discord and I don't have to worry about those annoying discord emails ever. B.net voice chat is one of blizzard's best implementations for b.net 2.0. It's simple and easy to use. I don't have a need for 3rd party software anymore, it's great. It makes sense to use b.nets built in voice chat feature instead of discord. B.net voice chat provides everything you need to properly run a group. Discord also sucks because it often causes lag or input issues.

B.net's VoIP has definitely come a long way, but it is far from the ideal solution. It isn't great for larger communities, nor communities that play more than Blizzard games. Discord is great for both of those things, which is why it's so popular. It accomplishes everything B.net VoIP does and more, no need to fiddle with the B.net one unless you have computing issues like you do.

Anyways, this is an awesome add-on! I love the Rich Presence, I'm excited to use it soon


I can appreciate your passion for discord. To bring you up to speed as you are mistaken(not wrong, just mistaken ), B.net voice has no issues with large groups or communities. The quality stays the same and it is crystal clear. Discord has played a role in the past and was good at what it does, however, It has become obsolete. Also, You don't even need to own a blizzard game to use the b.net application, it's completely free and registering a b.net account is easier than discord. There is also less hassle with using the b.net application and uses less processing power. Lastly, I don't have computing issues, I just prefer to use the least amount of processing power possible. If discord could do what B.net does without causing random input issues and using less processing power, it'd be worth it. Unfortunately that isn't the case. Gotta go with the b.net application, it's official and runs flawlessly. I don't see a reason to use a sub-par program with endless email notifications(even if you opt out of notifications, you still end up receiving some). Besides, less and less people are using discord and deciding to use the official built-in b.net voice chat. It also requires less effort and has a very simple/easy to use interface. Don't get left behind



I'd have a tall order to convince all 22 of the channels I'm in to all switch to battle.net. Especially when only 2 of them are related to starcraft.
Cereal
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
May 20 2018 18:09 GMT
#11
On May 21 2018 02:58 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


Battle.net is pretty terrible as a general forum / group IM / large group voice chat replacement and lots of content doesn't make sense there even if they'd allow it - having a battle.net group for kerbal space program or for posting elf girls would be ridiculous

Discord isn't great for voice chat of more than a small handful of people either because they don't have appropriate voice activation controls (bnet client doesn't either) so everyone has to choose between using push to talk or sending a ton of background noise. I'm leaning on Teamspeak for that until they fix it but i've been waiting years so they might never bother.


That's the one thing you can't do-view photos/videos in b.net chat. B.net chat allows you to set the sensitivity for voice detection when using voice chat(It works extremely well, I forget what I have it set at, but it doesn't get activated from background noise unless it is as loud as my voice would be when speaking into the mic). Discord's voice pick up is pretty subpar, i agree.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 18:13:09
May 20 2018 18:11 GMT
#12
Setting a sensitivity isn't enough, you need controls like an activation threshold and a time to continue transmitting after dropping below the threshold. That allows you to raise the sensitivity so that it requires a lot more sound to activate while at the same time not cutting you off constantly (like discord or bnet would) because of momentary dips in volume.

We've had these controls forever in the core VOIP programs (e.g. Teamspeak) - Discord and Blizzard just haven't bothered to implement anything but the most quick and basic settings.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
SageFantasma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
May 20 2018 18:22 GMT
#13
On May 21 2018 02:44 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2018 02:29 SageFantasma wrote:
On May 21 2018 01:22 ReachTheSky wrote:
On May 21 2018 01:16 SMOrangeUtan wrote:
On May 20 2018 16:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Did you know battle.net has built-in voice chat that works extremely well? Players can even talk across multiple games and create groups. Discord just ends up being an extra program that isn't needed anymore.


It feels as though noone really uses the ingame voice chat though.


I don't think many people are aware of B.net voice chat tbh. I just found out about it a couple months ago. It also uses less processing power than discord and I don't have to worry about those annoying discord emails ever. B.net voice chat is one of blizzard's best implementations for b.net 2.0. It's simple and easy to use. I don't have a need for 3rd party software anymore, it's great. It makes sense to use b.nets built in voice chat feature instead of discord. B.net voice chat provides everything you need to properly run a group. Discord also sucks because it often causes lag or input issues.

B.net's VoIP has definitely come a long way, but it is far from the ideal solution. It isn't great for larger communities, nor communities that play more than Blizzard games. Discord is great for both of those things, which is why it's so popular. It accomplishes everything B.net VoIP does and more, no need to fiddle with the B.net one unless you have computing issues like you do.

Anyways, this is an awesome add-on! I love the Rich Presence, I'm excited to use it soon


I can appreciate your passion for discord. To bring you up to speed as you are mistaken(not wrong, just mistaken ), B.net voice has no issues with large groups or communities. The quality stays the same and it is crystal clear. Discord has played a role in the past and was good at what it does, however, It has become obsolete. Also, You don't even need to own a blizzard game to use the b.net application, it's completely free and registering a b.net account is easier than discord. There is also less hassle with using the b.net application and uses less processing power. Lastly, I don't have computing issues, I just prefer to use the least amount of processing power possible. If discord could do what B.net does without causing random input issues and using less processing power, it'd be worth it. Unfortunately that isn't the case. Gotta go with the b.net application, it's official and runs flawlessly. I don't see a reason to use a sub-par program with endless email notifications(even if you opt out of notifications, you still end up receiving some). Besides, less and less people are using discord and deciding to use the official built-in b.net voice chat. It also requires less effort and has a very simple/easy to use interface. Don't get left behind

Uhh... I'm sorry, but I disagree with you on almost all fronts. Discord doesn't require an account, nor even to download the application to use it. Inherently, that is simpler than using B.net. It has far more features and controls than B.net's VoIP service and the chat service is backed by a stellar set of bots(Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never heard of bot services for B.net nor did Google return any relevant results). If you're experiencing input issues and lag, it's because you have computing issues. Straight up. Every single person I have heard of that has lag issues from Discord is because they can't handle running the game and the program at the same time, which I totally get. They are also very similar in terms of load on your PC, though since nobody I know uses B.net app outside of launching games, I can't test the load when connected to voice chats. I'd be curious to know what e-mails you're getting from Discord, as I only recall ever receiving e-mails from them when registering my account and with Privacy Policy updates. Far from "endless email".

Your points honestly feel more like propaganda than arguments so far, but I'd love to continue the discussion if not. This probably isn't the best place for it, though.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 18:40:35
May 20 2018 18:39 GMT
#14
Definitely not propaganda on my end(I can't stand blizzard because of their crappy support and deception, just look up my past posts of me bashing them lol). I'm running an i7-6820hk @ 4.0 ghz, I have zero computing issues. I can literally have multiple games open(while playing one of them), several software programs opened, browsers etc with 3 monitors hooked up all once @ 4k with ZERO issues. All of my hardware, drivers and software is up to date.

Also, with discord, You do need to register an account or your access is limited. This isn't a problem with the b.net application. Sure, you could use discord in a browser, however, you are still using more computing power than b.net chat either way. The only way to stop emails from any given discord community you are apart of is to leave the community entirely, otherwise you'll still get emails for some things. It's annoying. I like b.net voice because it's incredibly simplistic and easy to use. Discord is a bit overwhelming for new users. I don't really see a reason to use a third party program to chat over games when b.net includes it. I just don't see a reason to use extra programs that don't provide any added benefit that use extra processing power.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
May 20 2018 18:42 GMT
#15
The Bnet client is a third party program for most games and communities
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 19:11:24
May 20 2018 19:07 GMT
#16
On May 21 2018 03:42 Cyro wrote:
The Bnet client is a third party program for most games and communities


I don't think that's true since you are required to launch the b.net application in order to access any blizzard games with the exception of legacy titles. B.net is also owned by blizzard thus making it NOT a third party program. It's definitely a third party program if you aren't playing a blizzard game or cod4bops/destiny 2. It just makes more sense for me to use blizzard's built in feature.
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bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary387 Posts
May 20 2018 22:31 GMT
#17
Thank you for your work.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
May 20 2018 22:39 GMT
#18
On May 21 2018 04:07 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2018 03:42 Cyro wrote:
The Bnet client is a third party program for most games and communities


I don't think that's true since you are required to launch the b.net application in order to access any blizzard games with the exception of legacy titles. B.net is also owned by blizzard thus making it NOT a third party program. It's definitely a third party program if you aren't playing a blizzard game or cod4bops/destiny 2. It just makes more sense for me to use blizzard's built in feature.

C'mon, there's plenty of games that are not ATVI. Fortnite? PUBG? CS:GO? FFXIV? GW2? I just named one of the most played games on the internet and none of them is from Blizzard nor Activision and they are not launched from b.net. Sure, it's probably good for WoW.

b.net is a third party program and many communities/guilds use discord to communicate offline and because it connects via multiple channels different games. That's the power of Discord and its popularity. Yes, if you play mostly ATVI games, you probably don't feel the need. But if you play games from other developers, you usually need it. That's why Discord is fun.

FFS, Even The Pylon show uses discord ;-)
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HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
May 21 2018 07:19 GMT
#19
People commenting that you can use bnet voice chat instead of Discord don't really understand what it's for. It's like saying you can use bnet instead of skype, ventrilo, teamspeak, mumble etc. People often talk to eachother while playing different games or while not playing at all. If only friends you have are friends on your battle net than fair game, use battle net. But over the years I've gotten close to people playing various games on various platforms. I don't want to set up my voice chat settings on each one of them and most importantly I don't want to log in to battle net just to talk to my friends playing blizzard games. We've had our own discord for years now and it's just a completely different level of convenience.
oh, hai
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 21 2018 12:02 GMT
#20
On May 21 2018 16:19 HornyHerring wrote:
People commenting that you can use bnet voice chat instead of Discord don't really understand what it's for. It's like saying you can use bnet instead of skype, ventrilo, teamspeak, mumble etc. People often talk to eachother while playing different games or while not playing at all. If only friends you have are friends on your battle net than fair game, use battle net. But over the years I've gotten close to people playing various games on various platforms. I don't want to set up my voice chat settings on each one of them and most importantly I don't want to log in to battle net just to talk to my friends playing blizzard games. We've had our own discord for years now and it's just a completely different level of convenience.


Also the bnet client isn't cross region.

My clan was going to switch to the bnet app when it came out, but we can't because we have both NA and EU players.
Cereal
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