EPTOn May 18 2018 19:45 Olli wrote:
Maru out to Zest, you read it here first.
Maru out to Zest, you read it here first.
yeah of course, nobody else would ever predict it past 2017
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Ej_
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yeah of course, nobody else would ever predict it past 2017 | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On May 18 2018 19:50 Ej_ wrote: yeah of course, nobody else would ever predict it past 2017 I'd say them meeting is the boldest part of that prediction. | ||
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pvsnp
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On May 18 2018 19:45 Olli wrote: Maru out to Zest, you read it here first. After they just buffed MARUders? | ||
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MrRee
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
If the Rogue that played at Katowice shows up, then he gets out the group for sure. But if the Rogue who played GSL s1, super tournament, hangzhou, or any of the online cups shows up, then he doesn't have a chance. Literally everyone else in group B is inconsistant. Dear was great at katowice but looked lost in GSL last season. soO was on fire in GSL but played like trash at Katowice. Inno hasn't had a good showing since last year. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Group C is looking good for Dark and Classic. But Trap can easily get the upset. TY doesn't have much of a shot here. Group D is easy for the protosses. Gumiho isn't great in TvP and ByuN isn't great in general. | ||
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Ectar
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Charoisaur
Germany15955 Posts
On May 18 2018 16:12 pvsnp wrote: Maru knows more than me about Rogue's form (duh), but I also have to conclude that Inno was picked last for a reason. The fact that sOs of all people didn't want to face him in the first match, despite PvT being what it is and sOs being who he is, raises my eyebrows. If Inno is really as washed up as they say, why would Maru waste his switch? His so called "slump" is way overexaggerated anyways. Every time Inno isn't dominating every tournament there is people start calling him washed up/slumping etc despite him still being one of the scariest players in the scene. Just look at this article - Mizen calls TY "more in-form" than Inno despite him not having better results at all. When Inno loses it just gets way more attention than when another player loses. I wasn't surprised at all he was picked last. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On May 19 2018 04:43 Charoisaur wrote: His so called "slump" is way overexaggerated anyways. Every time Inno isn't dominating every tournament there is people start calling him washed up/slumping etc despite him still being one of the scariest players in the scene. Just look at this article - Mizen calls TY "more in-form" than Inno despite him not having better results at all. When Inno loses it just gets way more attention than when another player loses. I wasn't surprised at all he was picked last. Eh he doesn't look like a title contender at all if you look at this: http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=2018-04-01&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Mediocre winrate despite farming players like Billowy, jypeng and january. Losing to creator and impact. He also has some decent wins in there but he doesn't look particularly scary. He got picked last and that's telling us something for sure, but who knows if it's not mainly his name factor. Rogue iirc even said something like "his skills don't meet his name value". I think that's a fair assessment. Outside the one loss to cure TY at least looked good in his gsl group and he recently won the meme tournament. Also because Maru's words are gospel atm, he highlighted TY's abilities  Though it doesn't really matter, both TY and Inno will lose their groups and Maru has to save terran once again | ||
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pvsnp
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No idea why they wanted to be in the same group, but whatever they were thinking, it obviously paid off. On May 19 2018 05:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: Eh he doesn't look like a title contender at all if you look at this: http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=2018-04-01&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Mediocre winrate despite farming players like Billowy, jypeng and january. Losing to creator and impact. He also has some decent wins in there but he doesn't look particularly scary. He got picked last and that's telling us something for sure, but who knows if it's not mainly his name factor. Rogue iirc even said something like "his skills don't meet his name value". I think that's a fair assessment. Outside the one loss to cure TY at least looked good in his gsl group and he recently won the meme tournament. Also because Maru's words are gospel atm, he highlighted TY's abilities Though it doesn't really matter, both TY and Inno will lose their groups and Maru has to save terran once again Nah, the Terran buff means that Maru's role in carrying Terran shrinks in proportion with the reduction of struggling Terrans. TY is kind of an unknown quantity atm. Tbh I'm kinda expecting a return to the normal HotS state of affairs where Maru and Inno pass the baton as Terran goes from weak to strong and back again. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On May 19 2018 06:44 pvsnp wrote:Nah, the Terran buff means that Maru's role in carrying Terran shrinks in proportion with the reduction of struggling Terrans. TY is kind of an unknown quantity atm. Tbh I'm kinda expecting a return to the normal HotS state of affairs where Maru and Inno pass the baton as Terran goes from weak to strong and back again. It's crazy just how much better Inno and Maru were than other terrans in HotS. Flash, TY, Dream, Cure, MMA, Bomber etc all had moments but never looked like real starleague contenders. Maru and Inno literally just took turns being the one and only king. I'm really not sure how the marauder change will go down tbh. Maru could return to his ninja TvP being almost unbeatable. And anything could happen to TY and ByuN. | ||
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pvsnp
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On May 19 2018 07:26 Fango wrote: It's crazy just how much better Inno and Maru were than other terrans in HotS. Flash, TY, Dream, Cure, MMA, Bomber etc all had moments but never looked like real starleague contenders. Maru and Inno literally just took turns being the one and only king. I'm really not sure how the marauder change will go down tbh. Maru could return to his ninja TvP being almost unbeatable. And anything could happen to TY and ByuN. Well this is just theorycrafting on my end, but I suspect that we will see a lot more Disruptors in PvT. The Marauder buff makes it so that Gateway armies can't trade evenly with bio anymore, which in turn means that Protoss needs to rely more on splash. Traditionally this was the Colossus, but since they are now much worse against Marauders and Vikings also got a small buff.....yeah. Storm is always a possibility, of course, but Ghosts are still a thing and Marauder-heavy comps aren't super scared of Storm either. So that leaves us with Disruptors. And it's not just a process-of-elimination thing, GGemini mentioned on the most recent Pylon Show how he doesn't care about the Terran buffs since he always goes Disruptors, and even how he thinks they might get nerfed in the future because they are really good against Terran. At the pro level, I know herO has been experimenting with them, and in the foreign scene Harstem has too. Not entirely sure how Terran will counter Disruptors–I think mass Liberators is the go-to right now, but Disruptors are typically paired with Stalkers, and I've seen the novas be used to chase bio away so the Stalkers can blink under and snipe Libs. That being said, I think Tank/Lib has a lot of zoning potential against Stalker/Disruptor, especially because using Disruptors precludes stuff like Chargelot/Archon that usually hard-counter Tanks. Just speculation, of course. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
I never liked watching disruptors. Although they made them better in 4.0 it the insta detonate. | ||
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DubiousC2
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Togekiss
Canada154 Posts
Couldn't have written a better script myself, and this might make for the best ro16 in years as a Jin Air fanboy! Additionally I am really pleased that every group somehow managed to get a decent racial distribution (unlike last season was it?) as well as at least one Terran player!! | ||
Waxangel
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
In case some might not have noticed Rogue has been dominant lately. Has won all 4 of his matches in GSL so far and destroyed the field in the latest Kung Fu cup where he beat Dark 3-0. Who beats Dark 3-0? | ||
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Fango
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TelecoM
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Charoisaur
Germany15955 Posts
On May 20 2018 12:27 Rolltide wrote: If SoO makes it gives him his props. He is in big trouble having Rogue and Inno in that group. Dear is no pushover either. In case some might not have noticed Rogue has been dominant lately. Has won all 4 of his matches in GSL so far and destroyed the field in the latest Kung Fu cup where he beat Dark 3-0. Who beats Dark 3-0? Nah, he's an inconsistent Patchzerg because he lost to Scarlett that one time after taking a break from sc2 /s | ||
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