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Mvp2.
INnoVation3.
Life4.
MC5.
TaeJa6.
sOs7.
MMA8.
Zest9.
PartinG10.
soO11.
MarineKingHonorable mentions: Nestea, DRG, Rain, Leenock, Dark, Maru, herO, Polt, HerO, Hyun. All of them great players, but not Top 10.
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TheDougler
Canada8323 Posts
Mvp2. INnoVation3. Life4. MC5. TaeJa6. sOs7. MMA8. Zest9. PartinG10. soO11. MarineKingHonorable mentions: Nestea, DRG, Rain, Leenock, Dark, Maru, herO, Polt, HerO, Hyun. All of them great players, but not Top 10. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Life02. Mvp03. NesTea04. DongRaeGu05. HyuN06. Bomber07. Dark08. IdrA09. Lure10. SnuteLet me explain this list, I haven't really watched starcraft for years, and I just started playing again, so this list is guys I thought were good in their own times and it's massively biased. Hyun was my favourite player after Idra and an online beast, Bomber was like the first big macro terran I remember and his BM was funny. Idra was my favourite player and I wish he had won more. I had to put one protoss on the list and I liked Lure because in like 2011 in some PvT he built like 8 observers and I liked that. Got to have one team liquid guy and snute is probably the best guy they have I never liked Taeja. Probably the best list ever | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46473 Posts
On March 19 2018 00:05 Pandemona wrote: 1 - Mvp2 - NesTea3 - INnoVation4 - Maru5 - soO6 - MC7 - Dark8 - Zest9 - sOs10 - RogueSomething like this for me i think. Honorable mentions to, Maka for making proxy raxy build. To HongUn & Genius for helping making the great Protoss book along with MC. BitByBit also, for being hilarious. Also to JulyZerg for being a very aggressive Zerg early on. Also FruitDealer for being the guy to start it all.I like this list. I second this list please. | ||
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Zygno
Austria276 Posts
Mvp2. INnoVation3. Life4. soO5. sOs6. Zest7. Rogue8. MC9. MarineKing10. NesTea | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8323 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On March 19 2018 18:57 deacon.frost wrote: Rogue, Dark and soO are in the category of top3 zergs in SC2 for some time. Then it's just a personal preference who's who(1st, soO, 3rd). IMO Contemporary Zergs, sure. All-time? No way for Rogue and that's just the Zergs | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On March 19 2018 19:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Contemporary Zergs, sure. All-time? No way for Rogue and that's just the Zergs HotS and LotV mean 2 out of 3 expansions, so for some it's enough. Again, personal opinions  | ||
Poopi
France13021 Posts
It will be hard not to be biased for the current top players. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46473 Posts
On March 19 2018 21:34 Poopi wrote: This list gonna be very tough especially because most pros stopped before LotV... It will be hard not to be biased for the current top players. I agree. The level of competition since LotV started has been laughable compared to WoL and HotS. Most Koreans have moved on/ back to other games (BW, MOBAs, etc.), sadly. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
Mvp2. INnoVation3. soO4. Zest5. MC6. Maru7. Life8. TaeJa9. Polt10. ByuN | ||
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JWD[9]
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
Mvp2. Life3. soO4. INnoVation5. sOs6. Stats7. DongRaeGu8. Polt9. TaeJa10. PartinG@me viper | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16095 Posts
On March 19 2018 21:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I agree. The level of competition since LotV started has been laughable compared to WoL and HotS. Most Koreans have moved on/ back to other games (BW, MOBAs, etc.), sadly. Compared to HotS maybe but no way the skill level is lower than in WoL. People forget how terrible most pros played in 2011 On March 19 2018 19:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Contemporary Zergs, sure. All-time? No way for Rogue and that's just the Zergs I can see arguments for Rogue as he has four tier 1 tournament wins which ties Life for best Zerg so if you value tournament wins over consistency he can make the list. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:59 Mun_Su wrote: 1. INnoVation2. Life3. Mvp4. Zest5. Rain6. sOs 7. Stats8. soO9. TaeJa10. PoltIt's too hard to class. I should have troll I updated mine. Hard to class Zest since he was quite bad in 2017 but so good in 2014-16 | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
Mvp2. INnoVation3. Life4. MC5. soO6. MMA7. PartinG8. NesTea9. Stephano10. TaeJaSomething like that. Huge caveat that I haven't followed SC2 closely since HotS. Which saddens me greatly. Man, there were some great times. I even thought about putting ThorZaIN in for that TSL3 run Nostalgia man | ||
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
Mvp (The GOAT. Faced the most adversity, had one of the highest peaks, influenced the meta game beyond belief, smartest player of all time, most clutch player of all time, took prime INnoVation to five games after injury.)2. Life (Amazing player, despite all that he's done, which unfortunately stopped him from ever taking #1 on this list. Best instincts of all time. One of the best mechanical players. Amazing playstyle. Just a phenomenal talent, the likes of which we won't ever see in sc2.)3. soO (It's a stunning feat to go on a run of GSL finals appearances, and he's done it twice. One of the most consistent players of all time. Arguably the most accomplished player of all time. However, I value consistency slightly less than others might, or else he'd be #2 on this list.)4. TaeJa (Similarly to soO, except with foreign domination and championships instead of korean domination and finals. Great player. He looked less good in GSL, which stops him from being #2, but you cannot look at this guy's resume and tell me he doesn't deserve a high spot on this list. One of the best 'hit lists' of players he's beaten of all time.)5. INnoVation (One of the most consistent mechanical players of all time, one of the few terrans to not battle injury his entire career. Still has many horrible, embarrassing moments (blowing a 3-0 lead, blowing that lead vs Mvp, losing to NaNiwa, often vanishing after winning a championship, etc.) which stop him from being higher.6. MC (Hilarious personality, and one of the great innovators of the early stages of the game as well. However, unlike NesTea, he showed that he could continue to compete at a high level well after his prime, and continued to both show great domestic results and incredibly good international results for years after.)7. Zest (One of the most underrated players of all time. One of the great innovators of the HotS era. He has the highest peak of any protoss ever. However, he makes befuddling mistakes which keep him from really being in the GOAT conversation - TANGTANG, really?)8. Polt (Arguably the most ever-lasting player, Polt was a domestic success and then went on to be the most internationally successful player of all time, and his ability to continue his career in WCS long after his mechanics started to fail him speaks to his mentality. One of the great minds of our game.)9. Maru (Unfortunately without a GSL title, but Maru is arguably the greatest mechanical player of all time, the greatest mechanical terran of all time, one of the greatest proleague players in SC2 history, one of the higher peaks in SC2 history, and a player who has repeatedly made runs after his prime and when his race was in poor balance. Slight inconsistency and inability to win a GSL - yet - stops him from being higher.)10. Rain (Incredibly consistent player who added a lot to his game with age. Began as one of the most dominant protosses we've ever seen and left as an OSL champion, a GSL champion, a proleague all-star, and one of the best protosses of all time.)Honorable Mentions : MMA, NesTea, MarineKing, sOs (NesTea/MarineKing have great peaks but get moved down to their inability to make continued runs after their prime; MMA could probably get a spot in this list, but I felt like his results took a harsh dip after ~2012 - no, his Blizzcon run is not that impressive to me; sOs could probably sneak in with continued success, and is the ultimate counter-argument to anyone putting Rogue on their list. He did IEM WC + Blizzcon first, after all.) | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 19 2018 21:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I agree. The level of competition since LotV started has been laughable compared to WoL and HotS. Most Koreans have moved on/ back to other games (BW, MOBAs, etc.), sadly. If by "level of competition" you purely mean number of players then yeah. If you talk about skill level then it's ridiculous to claim WoL is better than LoTV. They barely knew how to play the game in WoL (in comparison). After the kespa switch the skill level went up dramatically. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On March 19 2018 04:32 Elentos wrote: He's a 6-time GSL finalist in 12 Code S runs, on his way to potentially 7 in 13, what more do I really have to say? 3 finals in 17 weekenders, I guess. Sure, the only thing he's won was a weekender, but the format plays a bigger role in getting to the finals than in winning the finals. My original statement was horribly wrong. I meant soO has a higher chance of winning a weekender than a starleague tournament. I do think being rock solid makes it easier for him to do well in group stages of GSL though. If a player is in the same group as soO or INnoVation, it makes more sense for them to prepare for other matches than bet their chances to advance on knocking down a player like soO (especially since you probably have to win 2 bo3s against him in group stage). soO's first streak of finals appearance was impressive. He was also at his peak and undoubtedly a top 3 player. The two appearances in 2017 were more due to bracket luck than him being great at preparing for the ro8, ro4 matches in a starleague tournament. If you go back to each final he lost, soO's way of tackling the finals had always been 'practicing even harder' than 'playing specifically to address opponent's weakness'. He does not strike me as great at adapting across series, and when he gets surprised in a bo7, he becomes mentally shaken and even more predictable. If you don't have the complete range in a bo7 when the other player will try different things specifically prepared for you, it's hard to win it all. This factor however small (sure luck and soO's mental state might have played a way bigger role), hardly exists in a weekender finals. | ||
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