EPTFor soO the only title that matters is the GSL
Scarlett defeats sOs 4-1, wins IEM PyeongChang - Page 5
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
For soO the only title that matters is the GSL | ||
|
Gurbak
France622 Posts
 | ||
|
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 08 2018 03:30 Charoisaur wrote: Consistently failing = 3-1ing Elazer and Serral. Woah, you really should go to the doctor to see how bad your dementia has gotten. Genuinely getting quite worried on your declined memory and other thinking skills. User was warned for this post | ||
|
Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On February 08 2018 02:57 Poopi wrote: You realize that everybody starts his journey by not having won a fuck in his life? So your argument is realllyy bad. And to add to that, as I said in the lr thread, Scarlett has shown impeccable mechanics and reads before, it all just came together recently | ||
|
MymSlorm
Chile187 Posts
| ||
|
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On February 08 2018 03:10 Fango wrote: I get what you mean. Scarlett winning here isn't as impressive as people are making it out to be. But for one of the most beloved players of all time to win such a historic event is great for the community. And I've been saying for the past year that Scarlett is good enough to win an event so I guess I should be happy. But people are going a bit too crazy over it. Oh, I understand that many people are looking at this through rose-colored glasses. I don't begrudge them their happiness. I'm no fan of sOs, as I said multiple times in the LR. That being said, I don't buy into the overhype of Scarlett either. Once the enthusiasm of the moment dies down, people will be more rational. What Scarlett did was impressive, but no more impressive than winning a WCS Circuit trophy. Even down to the oversaturation of ZvZ series. Beating sOs in the finals is great at first glance, until you realize that sOs used exactly zero of his famously unconventional builds, and lost three of the games to cheese. Winning a tournament "on Korean soil" means a lot less once you realize that there were a grand total of two Koreans present, and Scarlett only played one of them, a guy so renowned for his inconsistency that the community was forced to create the narrative that he only plays his best in tournaments with a $100,000 first place prize. Scarlett winning Pyeongchang is nowhere near as impressive as Neeb winning the Kespa Cup–at least Neeb's mirrors were Korean. And just like overzealous fans mistakenly extrapolated Neeb's win, so too are they mistakenly extrapolating Scarlett's. Just like they will do if Scarlett makes it to the Ro8 over Zest and Leenock, of all people, in the easiest GSL group by far. Consistency is what allows for extrapolation, and consistent results are conspicuously absent. Congratulations to Scarlett, she played well and deserved this win. That's not an excuse to forget what this win means–and what it doesn't mean. Yes, you can call me a killjoy  | ||
|
ShadowReaver
Canada563 Posts
| ||
|
AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
| ||
|
zealotstim
United States455 Posts
| ||
|
Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On February 08 2018 00:19 KalWarkov wrote: so who's the best foreigner boys? Still Neeb? Serral? Or is it acutally Scarlett or Elazer? What about ShoWTimE and Special? Nerchio and Snute are prly behind those, or are they? :D jonnyrecco | ||
|
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 08 2018 04:58 pvsnp wrote: Winning a tournament "on Korean soil" means a lot less once you realize that there were a grand total of two Koreans present, and Scarlett only played one of them, a guy so renowned for his inconsistency that the community was forced to create the narrative that he only plays his best in tournaments with a $100,000 first place prize. It kinda is true that sOs only plays his best in big money events. Well nowadays it's more he only cares about GSL. He said in an interview last year he's happy about the money he's won so far and just wants to win GSL, and other events he just tries to entertain fans. You can't really deny it when his games in crossfinals and SSL were memes, all the events he gets voted into he barely wins any maps, meanwhile he makes it to two GSL finals and a ro4. When people say sOs's skill increases when a lot is on the line there is some backing to it. He was the only guy to every pull of a reverse all-kill in proleague history right? | ||
|
purakushi
United States3302 Posts
| ||
|
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On February 08 2018 05:23 AUGcodon wrote: I think a Semi-Finals GSL runs would cement Scarlet as a top-tier foreigner if she manages to keep her form up well. If RO16 goes the way everyone think it does, beating zest and leenock wouldn't be too 'impressive'. Winning against Dark or Soo in the quarterfinals should at least mean her ZvZ is top notch. For amusement's sake, I do hope she will meet sos in the semi-finals again. To validate the (insane) level of hype, Scarlett would have to defeat a top Korean Terran in GSL. Which is to say, INnoVation or TY. And that's probably not going to happen. | ||
|
BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
 Finally! Whoooo! | ||
|
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 08 2018 05:29 pvsnp wrote: To validate the (insane) level of hype, Scarlett would have to defeat a top Korean Terran in GSL. Which is to say, INnoVation or TY. And that's probably not going to happen. Well she has done it before (not in GSL ofc), but Innovation or TY wouldn't lose to any foreign zerg. Outside of Dark or Solar they wouldn't lose to zerg in general | ||
|
AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
On February 08 2018 05:29 pvsnp wrote: To validate the (insane) level of hype, Scarlett would have to defeat a top Korean Terran in GSL. Which is to say, INnoVation or TY. And that's probably not going to happen. For max Pro/Anti Scarlet saltiness, I want RO16 Scarlet > Leenock + Zest RO8 Scarlet > Soo/Dark Ro4 Scarlet > Any group D toss that's not Trap Finals Scarlet < Innovation 0:4 | ||
|
virpi
Germany3599 Posts
| ||
|
Creager
Germany1946 Posts
| ||
|
Zrana1
Netherlands45 Posts
Congratualtions Scarlett! | ||
|
HotDOSBuns
Canada172 Posts
| ||
| ||
