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Top SC2 streamers & stats, November 2017

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Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
December 01 2017 21:08 GMT
#1
Welcome to this month's top streamers list! I stopped posting these about a year ago because people seemed to be not too interested in them anymore, but I saw a few requests were posted in the previous edition, so here we go again

Huh? What's this?
I run Fuzic - which collects statistics and rankings of StarCraft II live streams - and these threads are a summary of the viewer numbers for the past month.

Data is sourced from fuzic, and additional up-to-date stats may be found there. But in these threads - which I will try to post at the beginning of every month - there will be a monthly summary so you can get a quick overview of that month's viewer numbers.

Highlights
  • Winter has topped the charts for about as long as we can remember, but was dethroned this month by Korean YouTube stream 인피쉰 (which translates to "Infinite", according to Google). I don't really know what this stream is about, so if anyone knows who this is or what they stream please share in the replies below!
  • Averages are on the low side, which is probably because of Twitch's new-ish rebroadcasting feature. Rebroadcasts typically draw less viewers, but still add up over a longer time, meaning peak and VxH stay high while averages decrease.
  • PiG has been on a slow but steady rise the past few months, slowly gaining viewers and ending up at #4 in November. Winter is still a ways off, but he's quite close to Honor in terms of viewers right now, competing for that #2 (or #3, with Infinite's appearance) spot.
  • Top events are the usual suspects: obviously topped by WCS, which peaked at 98k, 30k below last year's finals. The amount of ZvZs probably didn't help in that regard... HomeStory Cup, SHOUTCraft Kings and WESG make up the rest of the top spots.

  • As always, suggestions and requests are welcome!

Inclusion criteria
The rankings list any stream that is reported on by the APIs of the various streaming services (Twitch, Azubu, etc). I have no way of verifying to what extent someone's viewers are legitimate, and therefore will not independently ban someone from the rankings. Please do not start a(nother) discussion about this in this thread.

The lists
"VxH", or "hours viewed" is the average amount of viewers multiplied by the amount of hours the streamer has streamed during that month. Basically, if for each viewer you count the amount of hours they watched the stream during the month, and add them up, you get this number. The list is sorted by this metric, as it gives a good impression of the streamer's activity through the month.

You can click the links below the charts for additional stats and a list you can sort by whichever metric you prefer.

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(Full ranking - note that these include streams in which events were streamed, and the above ranking does not)


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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 22:26:23
December 01 2017 22:22 GMT
#2
Who is Honor? I've never heard of him.
Also nice to see that average viewers have more than doubled compared to last month.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16896 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 22:39:58
December 01 2017 22:36 GMT
#3
Infinite seems to be a BW stream.

No clue why Honor's (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Honor) stream shot up this month, though Honor. seems to stream a bunch of games including Starcraft II and PUBG..
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
December 01 2017 22:52 GMT
#4
On December 02 2017 07:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Infinite seems to be a BW stream.

Ah so they've been selecting the wrong game on YouTube. Thanks, I'll check this out and reclassify if needed.
http://www.fuzic.nl - Up-to-date viewer numbers for Starcraft 2 live streams
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28393 Posts
December 01 2017 23:20 GMT
#5
Nice to see this come back
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
49509 Posts
December 01 2017 23:22 GMT
#6
he's a korean fastest map possible streamer, but judging from those peak numbers he gets more viewers than the progamers :O
CommentatorTwitter: @GTR1H
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/GTR1H
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 23:32:02
December 01 2017 23:31 GMT
#7
The past few weeks I've seen a few other BW YouTube streams with really high viewer numbers (example 1, example 2). I haven't been able to catch them live (and I don't speak Korean) so if anyone knows those and can explain why so many people watch them that'd be cool :D
http://www.fuzic.nl - Up-to-date viewer numbers for Starcraft 2 live streams
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 00:54:27
December 02 2017 00:08 GMT
#8
On December 02 2017 07:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Who is Honor? I've never heard of him.
Also nice to see that average viewers have more than doubled compared to last month.

You really never heard of http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Honor ? Are you actually german?

Well he is a german Protoss player that used to play competitive during the earlier sc2 days. Then he went on and founded Bonjwa, a streaming business that started off as a sc2 online school type of thing. Nowadays they have multiple fulltime employees and stream all kinds of games and not just sc2. But with 4.0 and f2p they are playing a lot more sc2 again on Bonjwa and they brought back the Bonjwa SC2 Academy.

https://www.bonjwa.de/

Recently Spiegel Online covered them.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/bonjwa-ein-chat-der-auf-sich-selbst-aufpasst-a-1176304.html

They also brought sc2 to Rocketbeans.tv, the biggest german 24/7 online TV gaming channel.

Straight to Gold

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Rocket_Beans_TV_Archon_Cup

Bonjwa has done a ton for sc2 in Germany and makes sc2 much more accessible for beginners and casual gamers.

Thanks for this post Stijn, nice graphics!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
December 02 2017 00:26 GMT
#9
Bonjwa is great, they have low level leagues as well.

Thanks for the stats, very interesting.
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States662 Posts
December 02 2017 00:27 GMT
#10
Awesome to see this make a return! Now that I'm streaming my goal is to be on the chart at all haha.
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2530 Posts
December 02 2017 00:36 GMT
#11
Does Winter stream rebroadcasts?
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1901 Posts
December 02 2017 00:55 GMT
#12
On December 02 2017 08:31 Stijn wrote:
The past few weeks I've seen a few other BW YouTube streams with really high viewer numbers (example 1, example 2). I haven't been able to catch them live (and I don't speak Korean) so if anyone knows those and can explain why so many people watch them that'd be cool :D

The first one is firebathero. Ex progamer, won a tournament in Italy last month and generally entertaining guy. Second guy, no idea. In the past Afreeca basically had a monopoly for BW streams but now more and more BW streamers are streaming on multiple platforms at the same time and some viewers are changing platforms.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16896 Posts
December 02 2017 00:56 GMT
#13
On December 02 2017 09:36 Psychobabas wrote:
Does Winter stream rebroadcasts?


I certainly hope he does, since otherwise streaming 22 hours a day sounds pretty unhealthy.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
December 02 2017 04:15 GMT
#14
Speaking of streamers, I'm always super impressed by Forte, his mechanics are stunning, I wonder why we never see him doing well in competitive matches, maybe the nerves are still too strong.
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany14521 Posts
December 02 2017 09:48 GMT
#15
On December 02 2017 09:08 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 07:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Who is Honor? I've never heard of him.
Also nice to see that average viewers have more than doubled compared to last month.

You really never heard of http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Honor ? Are you actually german?

Well he is a german Protoss player that used to play competitive during the earlier sc2 days. Then he went on and founded Bonjwa, a streaming business that started off as a sc2 online school type of thing. Nowadays they have multiple fulltime employees and stream all kinds of games and not just sc2. But with 4.0 and f2p they are playing a lot more sc2 again on Bonjwa and they brought back the Bonjwa SC2 Academy.

https://www.bonjwa.de/

Recently Spiegel Online covered them.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/bonjwa-ein-chat-der-auf-sich-selbst-aufpasst-a-1176304.html

They also brought sc2 to Rocketbeans.tv, the biggest german 24/7 online TV gaming channel.

Straight to Gold

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Rocket_Beans_TV_Archon_Cup

Bonjwa has done a ton for sc2 in Germany and makes sc2 much more accessible for beginners and casual gamers.

Thanks for this post Stijn, nice graphics!

Thanks, no idea why I've never heard of him.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
December 02 2017 15:27 GMT
#16
it is back !!
"What good fortune for goverments that the people do not think."
Kerdinand
Profile Joined November 2016
Germany113 Posts
December 02 2017 17:36 GMT
#17
On December 02 2017 09:08 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 07:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Who is Honor? I've never heard of him.
Also nice to see that average viewers have more than doubled compared to last month.


[...] Nowadays they have multiple fulltime employees and stream all kinds of games and not just sc2. But with 4.0 and f2p they are playing a lot more sc2 again on Bonjwa and they brought back the Bonjwa SC2 Academy.

[...]


If they stream different games, does the list only count the hours they streamed SC2, or just their overall stream time/viewership? Maybe it was mentioned in the text and I just missed it, but it would be nice to know.

Thanks a lot for doing this btw! Is this gonna be a monthly thing once again now?
Na jakar me'nah. - sOs - PartinG - Stats
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice22524 Posts
December 02 2017 19:05 GMT
#18
the TLnet tweet told me to thank you so I'd like to do that here
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23542 Posts
December 02 2017 19:59 GMT
#19
On December 03 2017 02:36 Kerdinand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 09:08 Musicus wrote:
On December 02 2017 07:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Who is Honor? I've never heard of him.
Also nice to see that average viewers have more than doubled compared to last month.


[...] Nowadays they have multiple fulltime employees and stream all kinds of games and not just sc2. But with 4.0 and f2p they are playing a lot more sc2 again on Bonjwa and they brought back the Bonjwa SC2 Academy.

[...]


If they stream different games, does the list only count the hours they streamed SC2, or just their overall stream time/viewership? Maybe it was mentioned in the text and I just missed it, but it would be nice to know.

Thanks a lot for doing this btw! Is this gonna be a monthly thing once again now?

Definitely only sc2 in those stats. Otherwise it would be a lot more than just 65 hours, since they stream 12+ hours 6 days a week.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 12:48:35
December 03 2017 12:46 GMT
#20
On December 03 2017 02:36 Kerdinand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2017 09:08 Musicus wrote:
On December 02 2017 07:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Who is Honor? I've never heard of him.
Also nice to see that average viewers have more than doubled compared to last month.


[...] Nowadays they have multiple fulltime employees and stream all kinds of games and not just sc2. But with 4.0 and f2p they are playing a lot more sc2 again on Bonjwa and they brought back the Bonjwa SC2 Academy.

[...]


If they stream different games, does the list only count the hours they streamed SC2, or just their overall stream time/viewership? Maybe it was mentioned in the text and I just missed it, but it would be nice to know.

Thanks a lot for doing this btw! Is this gonna be a monthly thing once again now?


It's just SC2. Or, technically, it tracks streams whenever they have set their game to 'SC2', which may not always accurately reflect the game the streamer is actually playing (such as for Infinite, in this month's charts), but then there's no way for me to check that.

I've streamlined the process a bit so I hope I can post these every month again, if people stay interested. I stopped posting these because I got very little response to the last few threads. I suppose people may appreciate this even if they don't reply, but replies are the only way I have of seeing if people are still interested, so if you have any kind of feedback I'm always happy to hear it
http://www.fuzic.nl - Up-to-date viewer numbers for Starcraft 2 live streams
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