• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:36
CET 08:36
KST 16:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win
Tourneys
SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
sOs joins Best's team, Newcatsle University Rollback Netcode in Brood War SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8234 users

Community Feedback Update - June 26 - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
127 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
June 29 2017 18:19 GMT
#121
On June 30 2017 02:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i personally find GSL Code S level Terran Mech entertaining. I find Gumiho's matches very entertaining. not sure how others feel about it.

playing against a Turtler-Mecher is frustrating for me in Diamond League, however, i do not think this warrants any changes from Blizzard.

When you're playing at my level of multitasking and APM with my weak keyboard mechanics .. some degree of frustration will sometimes be part of the game; there is nothing Blizzard can do about it. furthermore, i'm too lazy to make my keyboard mechanics better.

if i complained like some people in this thread i'd be demanding the removal of the Zergling.

Ofcourse you say all this, proofing that you dont know what you are even reading in this thread then. And ofcourse you think the RTS genre is declining with this knowledge of yours.
A healthy RTS GAME revolves around micro vs micro, and healthy decisions as "where to trade, where to attack, where to defend". With little to no hardcounters.
If you read very very carefully you will understand that the swarmhost and raven does the opposite of this. SC2 is a really unhealthy RTS game and the only thing to make it healthy IS TO CHANGE THE GAME.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 19:47:21
June 29 2017 19:38 GMT
#122
On June 30 2017 03:19 Foxxan wrote:
SC2 is a really unhealthy RTS game and the only thing to make it healthy IS TO CHANGE THE GAME.

When LotV first came out there was too much air play at my level of play; i think they've fixed that issue. I'm happy with the game as it is and i like the GSL.
On June 30 2017 03:19 Foxxan wrote: And ofcourse you think the RTS genre is declining with this knowledge of yours.
A healthy RTS GAME revolves around micro vs micro, and healthy decisions as ...

so you think the RTS genre is doing well? is that your point here? if the RTS genre is doing well there must be good alternatives to SC2 that have been released in the last 7 years. Let me know one of those good alternatives and i'll try it out. For now, I'm happy with SC2.
On June 30 2017 03:19 Foxxan wrote:
proofing that you dont know what you are even reading in this thread

Snute's perspective was clear. I understood it. and demonstrated that understanding in my post commenting on his insights.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 30 2017 16:01 GMT
#123
JimmyJRaynor you are the most high horse, ivory tower, big asshole i have ever seen. Every 2 posts you shit a little on other posters, aggressively or passively.

I used to think that you just love SC2 and you look to defend it, but that it's not the case. You are looking to create drama and conflict.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 17:17:24
June 30 2017 17:13 GMT
#124
your "create drama" claim is the only drama here. i am providing feedback to Blizzard in my posts.

i provided a rebuttal to this claim "you dont know what you are even reading".

if there is a specific line item i've misread or misunderstood i prefer to be corrected. the general comment "you don't know what you are reading" adds nothing to the discussion and is tantamount to the "shit a little on other posters" issue you bring up. pot? kettle?

so, is there something specific i'm misreading? if so, maybe we can clear that up and provide more high quality feedback to Blizzard to help make SC2 a better game
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 30 2017 18:09 GMT
#125
On July 01 2017 02:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
your "create drama" claim is the only drama here. i am providing feedback to Blizzard in my posts.

i provided a rebuttal to this claim "you dont know what you are even reading".

if there is a specific line item i've misread or misunderstood i prefer to be corrected. the general comment "you don't know what you are reading" adds nothing to the discussion and is tantamount to the "shit a little on other posters" issue you bring up. pot? kettle?

so, is there something specific i'm misreading? if so, maybe we can clear that up and provide more high quality feedback to Blizzard to help make SC2 a better game

I am here to help, so of course i am going to help you.

Let's both start by not lecturing people about what is right, wrong, fun, etc. Let's both try to understand that just by sayng the same thing over and over (like RTS is not popular) is not going to help us, them, the thread, or anyone. Let us agree that we are not as smart as we think we are, and the smater and the more objective we try to be, the more Sappire will make fun of us

Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 18:21:29
June 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#126
we can now ignore yesterday's claim "you dont know what you are even reading" because it adds nothing.... and nothing of substance came of it.... just useless flaming.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 30 2017 19:31 GMT
#127
On July 01 2017 03:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
we can now ignore yesterday's claim "you dont know what you are even reading" because it adds nothing.... and nothing of substance came of it.... just useless flaming.

Can you refrain from now on from making such post then?I will be there if you don't. Always watching, always looking out for starcraft i am
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
BroskiDerpman
Profile Joined January 2015
58 Posts
June 30 2017 19:49 GMT
#128
I started playing sc2 recently again and jesus they changed those swarmhosts, blue flame hellions couldn't do anything when I kept catching them off guard rip ;;.
READY TO ROLL OUT
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft526
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2659
Larva 232
Mind 154
Free 28
Bale 27
zelot 23
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
yabsab 13
Counter-Strike
fl0m3753
Other Games
summit1g10562
JimRising 504
C9.Mang0265
Happy212
Fuzer 118
Lowko83
ViBE73
NeuroSwarm69
Railgan9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick477
BasetradeTV133
Counter-Strike
PGL77
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 28
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 6
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2247
League of Legends
• Scarra1032
• Stunt400
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3h 24m
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
9h 24m
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
11h 24m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 3h
IPSL
1d 9h
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-05
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.