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Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
June 29 2017 18:19 GMT
#121
On June 30 2017 02:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i personally find GSL Code S level Terran Mech entertaining. I find Gumiho's matches very entertaining. not sure how others feel about it.

playing against a Turtler-Mecher is frustrating for me in Diamond League, however, i do not think this warrants any changes from Blizzard.

When you're playing at my level of multitasking and APM with my weak keyboard mechanics .. some degree of frustration will sometimes be part of the game; there is nothing Blizzard can do about it. furthermore, i'm too lazy to make my keyboard mechanics better.

if i complained like some people in this thread i'd be demanding the removal of the Zergling.

Ofcourse you say all this, proofing that you dont know what you are even reading in this thread then. And ofcourse you think the RTS genre is declining with this knowledge of yours.
A healthy RTS GAME revolves around micro vs micro, and healthy decisions as "where to trade, where to attack, where to defend". With little to no hardcounters.
If you read very very carefully you will understand that the swarmhost and raven does the opposite of this. SC2 is a really unhealthy RTS game and the only thing to make it healthy IS TO CHANGE THE GAME.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16954 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 19:47:21
June 29 2017 19:38 GMT
#122
On June 30 2017 03:19 Foxxan wrote:
SC2 is a really unhealthy RTS game and the only thing to make it healthy IS TO CHANGE THE GAME.

When LotV first came out there was too much air play at my level of play; i think they've fixed that issue. I'm happy with the game as it is and i like the GSL.
On June 30 2017 03:19 Foxxan wrote: And ofcourse you think the RTS genre is declining with this knowledge of yours.
A healthy RTS GAME revolves around micro vs micro, and healthy decisions as ...

so you think the RTS genre is doing well? is that your point here? if the RTS genre is doing well there must be good alternatives to SC2 that have been released in the last 7 years. Let me know one of those good alternatives and i'll try it out. For now, I'm happy with SC2.
On June 30 2017 03:19 Foxxan wrote:
proofing that you dont know what you are even reading in this thread

Snute's perspective was clear. I understood it. and demonstrated that understanding in my post commenting on his insights.
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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 30 2017 16:01 GMT
#123
JimmyJRaynor you are the most high horse, ivory tower, big asshole i have ever seen. Every 2 posts you shit a little on other posters, aggressively or passively.

I used to think that you just love SC2 and you look to defend it, but that it's not the case. You are looking to create drama and conflict.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16954 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 17:17:24
June 30 2017 17:13 GMT
#124
your "create drama" claim is the only drama here. i am providing feedback to Blizzard in my posts.

i provided a rebuttal to this claim "you dont know what you are even reading".

if there is a specific line item i've misread or misunderstood i prefer to be corrected. the general comment "you don't know what you are reading" adds nothing to the discussion and is tantamount to the "shit a little on other posters" issue you bring up. pot? kettle?

so, is there something specific i'm misreading? if so, maybe we can clear that up and provide more high quality feedback to Blizzard to help make SC2 a better game
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 30 2017 18:09 GMT
#125
On July 01 2017 02:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
your "create drama" claim is the only drama here. i am providing feedback to Blizzard in my posts.

i provided a rebuttal to this claim "you dont know what you are even reading".

if there is a specific line item i've misread or misunderstood i prefer to be corrected. the general comment "you don't know what you are reading" adds nothing to the discussion and is tantamount to the "shit a little on other posters" issue you bring up. pot? kettle?

so, is there something specific i'm misreading? if so, maybe we can clear that up and provide more high quality feedback to Blizzard to help make SC2 a better game

I am here to help, so of course i am going to help you.

Let's both start by not lecturing people about what is right, wrong, fun, etc. Let's both try to understand that just by sayng the same thing over and over (like RTS is not popular) is not going to help us, them, the thread, or anyone. Let us agree that we are not as smart as we think we are, and the smater and the more objective we try to be, the more Sappire will make fun of us

Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16954 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 18:21:29
June 30 2017 18:19 GMT
#126
we can now ignore yesterday's claim "you dont know what you are even reading" because it adds nothing.... and nothing of substance came of it.... just useless flaming.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 30 2017 19:31 GMT
#127
On July 01 2017 03:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
we can now ignore yesterday's claim "you dont know what you are even reading" because it adds nothing.... and nothing of substance came of it.... just useless flaming.

Can you refrain from now on from making such post then?I will be there if you don't. Always watching, always looking out for starcraft i am
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
BroskiDerpman
Profile Joined January 2015
58 Posts
June 30 2017 19:49 GMT
#128
I started playing sc2 recently again and jesus they changed those swarmhosts, blue flame hellions couldn't do anything when I kept catching them off guard rip ;;.
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