• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:29
CET 04:29
KST 12:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book13Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)1Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker7PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Terran Scanner Sweep How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
YouTube Thread US Politics Mega-thread Sex and weight loss Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2425 users

2017 GSL Season 3 Qualifiers - Page 34

Forum Index > SC2 General
760 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 39 Next All
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 25 2017 10:11 GMT
#661
On June 25 2017 19:10 Vanillatoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:03 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?


So, why can they qualify in code S then ?


Cant Koreans play in WCS? I remember Polt and Hydra playing WCS last year.. Hell even TRUE won one of the DreamHacks.. in Montreal if think.. against Polt.. and guess what.. they are both Koreans
TRUE is rank 8 in current WCS with 1230 points..


TRUE had to wait 9 month to get a visa etc, when drogo/elazer etc just booked a flight
TL+ Member
TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
June 25 2017 10:13 GMT
#662
Cant wait to see Maru drop a manner CC against noregret, he deserves it


Maru only does that to someone who offended him personally.

Myungsik mocked Maru's teammate Rogue before in team league, so Maru revenged for his teammate with mules.

And Maru's mule to Nerchio in Kespa cup. I think Maru probably misunderstood Nerchio's interview about himself. (He probably thought Nerchio BMed him through interview)
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 25 2017 10:14 GMT
#663
NoRegret offended starcraft
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
June 25 2017 10:15 GMT
#664
On June 25 2017 19:14 DieuCure wrote:
NoRegret offended starcraft

Now you're going a little bit to far (even though it's probably a joke)
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Vanillatoss
Profile Joined May 2016
76 Posts
June 25 2017 10:16 GMT
#665
On June 25 2017 19:06 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?

On June 25 2017 18:48 ParksonVN wrote:
If those foreigners are good as you say, why the hell Region lock still exists ? Answer me !


For how long there was no Region lock?? Blizzard wants to see competition between everybody not only KR vs KR. For that you gotta pump some money just to make ppl want to play sc2 and become progamers.

People complain that GSL is the only source of money for progamers from korea and now foreigners advancing to GSL take that opportunity from real sc2 korean progamers... LOOL just LOL. Couple years ago it was complate opposite but i guess u guys already forgot about it.


Wow, for GSL you said about the best players should advance, and for WCS you said Blizzard doesnt want to see all Korean vs Korean. What an argument ! So tell me what the hell you are considering ? Skill level or nationality ?


Region lock exists because koreans were winning everything ... yes they were the best and stuff but with time its get boring.. or it only interests group of ppl from that region/country. Blizzard wanted to change things a bit..

Anyhow, why do you even complain???? if Koreans are the best of the best.. then why they are loosing to foreigners..
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
June 25 2017 10:16 GMT
#666
At this point I won't blame Hot6 if they decide to terminate their sponsorship of the GSL. The Korean professional scene simply lacks the number of skilled players necessary to populate it.

Not to mention there's little financial point in advertising an exclusively-Korean energy drink to foreign audiences.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Vanillatoss
Profile Joined May 2016
76 Posts
June 25 2017 10:18 GMT
#667
On June 25 2017 19:11 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:10 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:03 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?


So, why can they qualify in code S then ?


Cant Koreans play in WCS? I remember Polt and Hydra playing WCS last year.. Hell even TRUE won one of the DreamHacks.. in Montreal if think.. against Polt.. and guess what.. they are both Koreans
TRUE is rank 8 in current WCS with 1230 points..


TRUE had to wait 9 month to get a visa etc, when drogo/elazer etc just booked a flight


I think for HSC there are always at least few Koreans.. do they wait 9 months too? Are u sure drogo/elazer didnt need visa to come to Korea?
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-25 10:24:47
June 25 2017 10:20 GMT
#668
how could have impact lost twice to noregret? maybe he does't deserve to be in code s
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 25 2017 10:21 GMT
#669
On June 25 2017 19:18 Vanillatoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:11 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:10 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:03 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?


So, why can they qualify in code S then ?


Cant Koreans play in WCS? I remember Polt and Hydra playing WCS last year.. Hell even TRUE won one of the DreamHacks.. in Montreal if think.. against Polt.. and guess what.. they are both Koreans
TRUE is rank 8 in current WCS with 1230 points..


TRUE had to wait 9 month to get a visa etc, when drogo/elazer etc just booked a flight


I think for HSC there are always at least few Koreans.. do they wait 9 months too? Are u sure drogo/elazer didnt need visa to come to Korea?


HSC isn't part of WCS. Take refused to do it because if he wanted to get the Blizzard cash he'd have to have held a WCS Circuit event, which bans Koreans that don't wait 9 months for a visa.
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 25 2017 10:21 GMT
#670
On June 25 2017 19:18 Vanillatoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:11 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:10 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:03 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?


So, why can they qualify in code S then ?


Cant Koreans play in WCS? I remember Polt and Hydra playing WCS last year.. Hell even TRUE won one of the DreamHacks.. in Montreal if think.. against Polt.. and guess what.. they are both Koreans
TRUE is rank 8 in current WCS with 1230 points..


TRUE had to wait 9 month to get a visa etc, when drogo/elazer etc just booked a flight


I think for HSC there are always at least few Koreans.. do they wait 9 months too? Are u sure drogo/elazer didnt need visa to come to Korea?

HSC either :
- Does not give WCS point (therefore isn't under WCS rules, HSC XIV).
- Or when it did (HSC XIII), it only had TRUE, who has a visa.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 25 2017 10:22 GMT
#671
On June 25 2017 19:20 GUrbak wrote:
how could have impact lost twice to noregret? maybe he don't deserve to be in code s


I think the more apt question is "How could Impact lose twice to NoRegreT yet 2-0 Drogo?"
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-25 10:26:06
June 25 2017 10:25 GMT
#672
On June 25 2017 19:18 Vanillatoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:11 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:10 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:03 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?


So, why can they qualify in code S then ?


Cant Koreans play in WCS? I remember Polt and Hydra playing WCS last year.. Hell even TRUE won one of the DreamHacks.. in Montreal if think.. against Polt.. and guess what.. they are both Koreans
TRUE is rank 8 in current WCS with 1230 points..


TRUE had to wait 9 month to get a visa etc, when drogo/elazer etc just booked a flight


I think for HSC there are always at least few Koreans.. do they wait 9 months too? Are u sure drogo/elazer didnt need visa to come to Korea?


But as Korean you dont just have to have a tourist visa, but :

Residency requirements stay the same

The residency requirements for WCS Circuit remain the same as last year. Players will need proof of citizenship, permanent residency, or an appropriate visa in order to compete and earn points in the WCS Circuit. A minimum number of ladder games in the home region will also be required. The full details will be forthcoming in the WCS 2017 Rules. And on the WCS Korea side, any player can compete.

TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
June 25 2017 10:30 GMT
#673
On June 25 2017 19:16 Vanillatoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:06 ParksonVN wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?

On June 25 2017 18:48 ParksonVN wrote:
If those foreigners are good as you say, why the hell Region lock still exists ? Answer me !


For how long there was no Region lock?? Blizzard wants to see competition between everybody not only KR vs KR. For that you gotta pump some money just to make ppl want to play sc2 and become progamers.

People complain that GSL is the only source of money for progamers from korea and now foreigners advancing to GSL take that opportunity from real sc2 korean progamers... LOOL just LOL. Couple years ago it was complate opposite but i guess u guys already forgot about it.


Wow, for GSL you said about the best players should advance, and for WCS you said Blizzard doesnt want to see all Korean vs Korean. What an argument ! So tell me what the hell you are considering ? Skill level or nationality ?


Region lock exists because koreans were winning everything ... yes they were the best and stuff but with time its get boring.. or it only interests group of ppl from that region/country. Blizzard wanted to change things a bit..

Anyhow, why do you even complain???? if Koreans are the best of the best.. then why they are loosing to foreigners..

We complain because the lower-tier koreans (who aren't the best of the best) get prevented from receiving their paychecks killing any hope of new young players breaking into the scene just so that foreigners (who already get enough money through WCS) have a nice experience.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 25 2017 10:30 GMT
#674
Noregret > neeb
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 25 2017 10:34 GMT
#675
On June 25 2017 19:30 Shellshock wrote:
Noregret > neeb


Noregret > Ptitdrogo

Noregret > JonSnow

Noregret > Nerchio

Noregret > *
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 25 2017 10:37 GMT
#676
I am fascinated by the internet's ability to be upset no matter what. The region lock is stupid, so much is true, but arguing "there is region lock in wcs so there should be one in gsl" is many levels of stupidity above it. You should be happy that there is a place without the idiotic rules instead of trying to have them everywhere for "fairness".
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
June 25 2017 10:43 GMT
#677
On June 25 2017 19:30 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:16 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:06 ParksonVN wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?

On June 25 2017 18:48 ParksonVN wrote:
If those foreigners are good as you say, why the hell Region lock still exists ? Answer me !


For how long there was no Region lock?? Blizzard wants to see competition between everybody not only KR vs KR. For that you gotta pump some money just to make ppl want to play sc2 and become progamers.

People complain that GSL is the only source of money for progamers from korea and now foreigners advancing to GSL take that opportunity from real sc2 korean progamers... LOOL just LOL. Couple years ago it was complate opposite but i guess u guys already forgot about it.


Wow, for GSL you said about the best players should advance, and for WCS you said Blizzard doesnt want to see all Korean vs Korean. What an argument ! So tell me what the hell you are considering ? Skill level or nationality ?


Region lock exists because koreans were winning everything ... yes they were the best and stuff but with time its get boring.. or it only interests group of ppl from that region/country. Blizzard wanted to change things a bit..

Anyhow, why do you even complain???? if Koreans are the best of the best.. then why they are loosing to foreigners..

We complain because the lower-tier koreans (who aren't the best of the best) get prevented from receiving their paychecks killing any hope of new young players breaking into the scene just so that foreigners (who already get enough money through WCS) have a nice experience.


like zest
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 25 2017 10:45 GMT
#678
On June 25 2017 19:43 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 19:30 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:16 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:06 ParksonVN wrote:
On June 25 2017 19:00 Vanillatoss wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:46 DieuCure wrote:
On June 25 2017 18:39 Vanillatoss wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Still living in the previous era or what??

When you watched WCS Austin or Jonkchoping werent you proud of foreiners and didnt u wonder how well would these guys do against koreans?

Major, Scarlet, Elazer... Neeb, Nerchio, Serral.. their skill level, mechanics and the understanding of SC2 is very very good! They dont make many mistakes like foreiners used to do.. Why cant they compete with the best all of the sudden?? SC2 is not a hobby for them anymore but the real job to get money from.

And Koreans.. are just Koreans lol. They are humans just like everybody else. They were and still are just as good as before. They take esport very serioously just like foreiners these days.

Anyhow, Im soooooooo happy that 5 foreigners made it to GSL S. Im pretty sure more would if they decided to play the qualifariers. Is there anyone who says that Serral, Kelazhur, Nerchio, Snute is not GSL code S progamer??


They are bad ( wcs backtoback champion = codeA player ) and they deprive ro32 players of what it comes to them, their only source of income. So, they have to retire to make a living, just because scarlett and his troop wanted to get 2-0ed by INnoVation.

But ye, we are wrong.


Wasnt the only source of income for foreigners the tournamets dominated by Koreans few years ago? wasnt it the main reason for foreiners that they took SC2 and e-sport as a hobby??
how can u live and provide for yourself (dont mind your familly) if all of the money Koreans grabbed because they had estabished team houses and so on and so forth?

On June 25 2017 18:48 ParksonVN wrote:
If those foreigners are good as you say, why the hell Region lock still exists ? Answer me !


For how long there was no Region lock?? Blizzard wants to see competition between everybody not only KR vs KR. For that you gotta pump some money just to make ppl want to play sc2 and become progamers.

People complain that GSL is the only source of money for progamers from korea and now foreigners advancing to GSL take that opportunity from real sc2 korean progamers... LOOL just LOL. Couple years ago it was complate opposite but i guess u guys already forgot about it.


Wow, for GSL you said about the best players should advance, and for WCS you said Blizzard doesnt want to see all Korean vs Korean. What an argument ! So tell me what the hell you are considering ? Skill level or nationality ?


Region lock exists because koreans were winning everything ... yes they were the best and stuff but with time its get boring.. or it only interests group of ppl from that region/country. Blizzard wanted to change things a bit..

Anyhow, why do you even complain???? if Koreans are the best of the best.. then why they are loosing to foreigners..

We complain because the lower-tier koreans (who aren't the best of the best) get prevented from receiving their paychecks killing any hope of new young players breaking into the scene just so that foreigners (who already get enough money through WCS) have a nice experience.


like zest


And ByuL
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
June 25 2017 10:50 GMT
#679
Grats to all!

On June 25 2017 19:16 pvsnp wrote:
Not to mention there's little financial point in advertising an exclusively-Korean energy drink to foreign audiences.

Aren't there some Western countries that import it? Can't find any in mine, even Pocari Sweat seems to have disappeared.
don't wall off against random
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 25 2017 10:52 GMT
#680
What a time to be alive.
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
01:00
#68 PiG Sty #7.0 Qualifier
PiGStarcraft637
EnkiAlexander 75
davetesta34
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft637
RuFF_SC2 216
SortOf 122
ProTech99
MaxPax 91
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 694
Sharp 136
Sacsri 38
NaDa 38
Noble 30
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Icarus 4
Dota 2
monkeys_forever812
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m2302
Coldzera 770
taco 512
Foxcn292
m0e_tv164
minikerr11
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1222
AZ_Axe163
Other Games
summit1g8809
WinterStarcraft346
C9.Mang0339
ViBE113
Maynarde111
ZombieGrub30
Temp017
febbydoto15
PiLiPiLi10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1024
BasetradeTV58
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4807
• Scarra1662
• Stunt439
• Lourlo273
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 31m
LiuLi Cup
7h 31m
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
Replay Cast
20h 31m
The PondCast
1d 6h
KCM Race Survival
1d 6h
LiuLi Cup
1d 7h
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Online Event
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
2 days
Serral vs TBD
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-09
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.