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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 18:49:43
January 27 2017 17:25 GMT
#1
Here are the results for the Power Ranking!
I will compare this PR to "version4: After the Starleagues" which you can find here
Directly to the list


honorable mentions: (Z)Solar (46 pts) and (T)aLive (48)


#10: (P)Classic ⇔ NEW
points: 55

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#9: (Z)ByuL ⇔ NEW
points: 80

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#8: (Z)soO ⇔ SAME
points: 89

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#7: (T)ByuN ⇔ NEW
points: 126

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#6: (P)Stats ⇔ SAME
points: 158

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#5: (P)herO[jOin] ⇗ 2
points: 182

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#4: (T)TY ⇔ SAME
points: 276

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#3: (T)Maru ⇘ 1
points: 280

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#2: (Z)Dark ⇗ 1
points: 308

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#1: (T)INnoVation ⇔ NEW
points: 371

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Compact as list:

1. (T)INnoVation (371pts)
2. (Z)Dark (308)
3. (T)Maru (280)
4. (T)TY (276)
5. (P)herO[jOin] (182)
6. (P)Stats (158)
7. (T)ByuN (126)
8. (Z)soO (89)
9. (Z)ByuL (80)
10. (P)Classic (55)





+ Show Spoiler +
Here we go again! The GSL round of 32 is over and we had the pleasure to watch quite a few other tournaments as well. (like "the loser strikes back, IEM qualifiers, WESG, etc). I think it is time again to do our best and create a power rank which doesn't need to hide behind the official TL one I hope a lot of you participate

To be clear: The list should reflect your opinion on the current strength of players.


What i want you to do:

Post your own power ranking in this thread, 10 players only, sorted by their current strength in LOTV. I will only count 'serious' lists, putting in Boxer won't do it.

New: Also pls TLPD-ize your lists, i will only count lists which are formatted that way!


So how would it work?

It's pretty simple, just post your top 10 in this thread. I will go through every post and add the points up.
The point distribution will be like that:

1. place = 10 points
2. place = 9 points
3. place = 8 points
etc.

How much time do i have to post the list?

You will have two weeks, which means i will count every list which is posted till February 11. (Time left to make a list: )

Feel free to discuss your rankings in this thread, if you have extra passion you also can write a short text for your favorite player and post it in here as well (it would be used for the final standings)

Reminder: You can change your list as often as you like, but i will only count the first list you posted in this thread (which means you should edit your post )


Other editions:

Power Rank 1:
Power Rank 2: Blizzcon Edition
Power Rank 3: Let it be LOTV!
Power Rank 4: After the Starleagues
Power Rank 5: Blizzcon with foreigners
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 27 2017 17:54 GMT
#2
I'll post my list after the IEM qualifiers are done.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 27 2017 17:57 GMT
#3
On January 28 2017 02:54 Elentos wrote:
I'll post my list after the IEM qualifiers are done.

Yeah i thought about it, but people can still redo their lists/fine tune it a bit till the deadline so i thought why not open it now.
The deadline MIGHT change a bit though, i dislike that we see the first ro16 group of GSL before it, not entirely sure yet
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-10 20:50:11
January 27 2017 18:18 GMT
#4
Updated: 2/10/2017

1. (T)Bogus
2. (T)Maru
3. (P)herO
4. (T)TY
5. (T)ByuN
6. (Z)Dark
7. (P)Stats
8. (Z)soO
9. (Z)ByuL
10. (T)aLive

Slight changes. Too bad this ends just before the group of death :/
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 18:46:54
January 27 2017 18:44 GMT
#5
On January 28 2017 03:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Very likely to change repeatedly in the next two weeks. With so many now taking part in online cups and the recent qualifiers, everyone is having volatile results. The only one that seems to be rigidly locked in their spot and unlikely to change is #1...

1. (T)Bogus
2. (T)Maru
3. (Z)soO
4. (T)ByuN
5. (P)herO
6. (Z)ByuL
7. (P)Stats
8. (T)TY
9. (Z)Dark
10. (T)aLive

Nothing needs to be said about Bogus.
Maru almost won WESG, easily made it out of his GSL group, and just has insane stats.
To a Lesser extent the same can be said of soO.
ByuN failed in GSL but still looks strong elsewhere.
herO has quietly been the best Protoss as of late.
ByuL is someone who looked like a solid #2 (lel) at the opening of this year but lately he's looking mediocre again.
Stats is the most volatile player on this list.
TY won WESG and made it out of his gsl group.
Dark is overrated and I'm going to peg as going out in the ro16.
aLive


Why do you have the guy who won WESG six spots behind the guy he beat in the finals? Shouldn't they be closer?

They were also in the same bracket for the IEM NA qualifier and you can go look up who made it out of that one
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
January 27 2017 18:57 GMT
#6
On January 28 2017 02:54 Elentos wrote:
I'll post my list after the IEM qualifiers are done.

ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-04 14:23:44
January 27 2017 19:05 GMT
#7
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Dark
3. (T)Maru
4. (T)TY
5. (T)ByuN
6. (P)Stats
7. (Z)soO
8. (P)herO
9. (Z)ByuL
10. (Z)Solar

Too much will change, removed all the explanations .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 23:29:05
January 27 2017 19:14 GMT
#8
1 (T)INnoVation
2 (T)Maru
3 (Z)soO
4 (Z)ByuL
5 (P)HerO
6 (T)TY
7 (P)Classic
8 (P)Stats
9 (Z)Dark
10 (T)aLive
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 19:20:11
January 27 2017 19:16 GMT
#9
On January 28 2017 03:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Very likely to change repeatedly in the next two weeks. With so many now taking part in online cups and the recent qualifiers, everyone is having volatile results. The only one that seems to be rigidly locked in their spot and unlikely to change is #1...

1. (T)Bogus
2. (T)Maru
3. (Z)soO
4. (T)ByuN
5. (P)herO
6. (Z)ByuL
7. (P)Stats
8. (T)TY
9. (Z)Dark
10. (T)aLive

Nothing needs to be said about Bogus.
Maru almost won WESG, easily made it out of his GSL group, and just has insane stats.
To a Lesser extent the same can be said of soO.
ByuN failed in GSL but still looks strong elsewhere.
herO has quietly been the best Protoss as of late.
ByuL is someone who looked like a solid #2 (lel) at the opening of this year but lately he's looking mediocre again.
Stats is the most volatile player on this list.
TY won WESG and made it out of his gsl group.
Dark is overrated and I'm going to peg as going out in the ro16.
aLive


Why do you have the guy who won WESG six spots behind the guy he beat in the finals? Shouldn't they be closer?

They were also in the same bracket for the IEM NA qualifier and you can go look up who made it out of that one


I'm going as far back as patch 3.8 in November. Reasonable timeframe and a massive patch to draw the line at. In that time Maru just has had better results overall compared to TY.

The win% and sample size is comparable but Maru has gone up against superior competition. Even in WESG, TY barely won over Maru and leading up to the finals Maru dropped no maps. Maru making a decent run in IEM Gyeonggi (of which TY was a big absence) and obliterating Dear and ByuL in The Loser Strikes Back is a huge diverging factor.

Maru's record

TY's record

As for how I managed to also stick 5 people between them...

all of those people also made good showings at IEM Gyeonggi and/or have been posting great results in online cups that have way stronger competition in them than WESG.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-28 02:38:44
January 28 2017 02:35 GMT
#10
1 (T)Maru
2 (T)INnoVation
3 (T)TY
4 (P)herO
5 (Z)Dark
6 (T)ByuN
7 (Z)soO
8 (Z)ByuL
9 (P)Stats
10 (T)Bunny

The top three are all really close and probably can be switched around
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-28 03:42:12
January 28 2017 03:36 GMT
#11
To make a Top 10 player list you really need to figure out who the best at every race is first and then make the list how you think they would win against each other. With this list, I'll do the Top 5 of every race (which should be enough to give me a Top 10 overall)

Top 5 are in no order.

Terran:
(T)INnoVation
(T)TY
(T)Maru
(T)ByuN
(T)KeeN

Zerg:
(Z)Dark
(Z)ByuL
(Z)soO
(Z)Solar
(Z)Nerchio

Protoss:
(P)Zest
(P)herO
(P)Stats
(P)Classic
(P)sOs

Sooo...with those 15 players (their best of their race currently) we can now make a list of those 15 players and narrow it down to the best 10 players.

1) (T)INnoVation
2) (T)TY
3) (Z)Dark
4) (T)Maru
5) (P)herO
6) (T)ByuN
7) (P)Stats
8) (P)sOs
9) (Z)Solar
10) (T)KeeN

Yup, works out great.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 19:47:13
January 28 2017 12:07 GMT
#12
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Dark
3. (T)Maru
4. (T)TY
5. (P)herO
6. (P)Stats
7. (P)Classic
8. (Z)soO
9. (Z)Byul
10. (T)ByuN
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-28 12:33:29
January 28 2017 12:32 GMT
#13
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Dark
3. (T)TY
4. (T)Maru
5. (P)Stats
6. (T)ByuN
7. (Z)soO
8. (Z)ByuL
9. (Z)Solar
10. (T)aLive
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
Toudeleski
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-28 13:09:03
January 28 2017 12:46 GMT
#14
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (T)ByuN
3. (T)Maru
4. (T)aLive
5. (T)TY
6. (Z)Dark
7. (T)KeeN
8. (P)Stats
9. (T)Bunny
10. (T)GuMiho

Innovation Byun and Maru all look completely dominant (but not perfect) and are interchangeable. aLive is a dark horse in everything he enters and just went through Inno, Maru, Byun and Zest to qualify for IEM. TY is certainly great but beyond WESG I'm waiting for him to crush more than just one tournament. Dark is the only Zerg (besides soo) who regularly contends with everyone else in the top of the skill brackets. Gumiho is a bit like aLive with brief flashes of dominance and never not a contender, but usually loses to the best of the best in the end. Stats came out of the group of Death over Byun, Bunny and KeeN came out of group putting down Zest and Rogue. Just beyond #10 are Classic, Soo, Solar, Sos, herO, and Ryung.
glhf
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 28 2017 12:49 GMT
#15
This thread is depressing because it makes me realize that while I watch games quite often, I don't even know who is good anymore.

I would probably put Innovation 10 times and then go cry in a corner because not only I don't know who else to write but also the only player I have any idea about currently is the one I always mildly disliked. Then I will cry even more after realizing that "mild dislike" is the strongest emotion I have felt about SC2 in a long time.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
January 28 2017 12:50 GMT
#16
1. (T)Maru
2. (T)INnoVation
3. (Z)Dark
4. (T)TY
5. (P)Stats
6. (T)ByuN
7. (Z)soO
8. (P)Classic
9. (T)aLive
10. (Z)ByuL

I mainly used GSL results, Nation Wars, WESG, IEM qualifiers plus a bit of aligulac. ByuN shat the bed hard but was on top of the world until at least Blizzcon so I still let him in the top 10 because I think he still has it in him, however no top 5 for him.

Between Maru, INno and TY it was hard, TY won WESG but lost to Maru in the IEM qualifier and has the worst aligulac rating among those three... INno was strong but he couldn't defeat aLive and had some harsh losses in Nation Wars and some online tourneys.
Maru has an insane aligulac rating and topped his GSL group so there he is, #1.

aLive is #9 mainly because of his recent results (he just qualified for IEM as I am typing), very good TvT result wise but he is still shaky in other match-ups so I don't put him super high either.

Classic is not talked about a lot on this thread but I think he is the #2 protoss currently, super solid yet goes a bit unnoticed :o.
WriterMaru
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-02 15:12:40
January 28 2017 15:37 GMT
#17
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Dark
3. (T)TY
4. (P)herO
5. (P)Stats
6. (T)Maru
7. (Z)soO
8. (Z)ByuL
9. (P)Zest
10. (T)ByuN

Just missed it: Solar, Classic, the second-tier terrans.

Oh man, Maru has so many fanboys... To be fair, the three top Terrans are close. But it has to go to the guys who won IEM Gyeonggi and WESG. All three topped their GSL groups. And Maru failed to qualify for IEM in three tries, even after getting a seed for the final korean qualifier gifted to him. Maru still has shown very little in LOTV aside from Bo1's.

I really don't understand those who don't have Dark near the top. Best zerg in the world for all of LOTV, and the only player to be at finals of every season including Blizzcon.

Zest is looks to be getting back in form. And made it through to IEM with his back against the wall - hopefully he is over his big tilt.

Edit: Updated after IEM qualifiers.

"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 28 2017 16:36 GMT
#18
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (T)Maru
3. (Z)Dark
4. (T)ByuN
5. (P)Stats
6. (T)TY
7. (Z)soO
8. (P)herO
9. (Z) Solar
10. (Z)Nerchio / (P) Zest / (P) Classic / (Z) ByuL / (P) sOs / (T) aLive

too hard to call 10 rly. when i doubt i give it to nerchio cuz foreigner
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
January 28 2017 17:28 GMT
#19
1, Maru
2. INnoVation
3. ByuN
4. TY
5. Nerchio
6. Dark
7. herO
8. Solar
9. Neeb
10. Snute
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 28 2017 17:29 GMT
#20
On January 29 2017 02:28 MockHamill wrote:
1, Maru
2. INnoVation
3. ByuN
4. TY
5. Nerchio
6. Dark
7. herO
8. Solar
9. Neeb
10. Snute

Copying the Aligulac top 10 should count as a troll list
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