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Spawning a New Partnership

Text byJer99
January 9th, 2017 16:58 GMT
IntroductionHow to get itUsing Spawning ToolSelecting a buildUsing the buildBut wait! There's more!

Introduction


StarCraft 2 is a challenging game. The complexity of the game is one of the major barriers for players to improve. Knowing what to build and when is one of the most important things to learn if you want to climb the ladder. The most common way build cut through the complexity of the game early on is following a build order and having a well refined build order can easily propel you into Masters/high Diamond. During Wings of Liberty builds used to be in abundance and relatively simple - who doesn't remember the Korean 4Gate? or 5rax reaper? or the 1-1-1? or the 7 roach rush? Executing these simple strategies propelled people up the ladder and even into major tournaments (hi bitbybit!).

We're well past the WoL era, and the changes made in LotV have radically increased the complexity of builds and the quantity and quality of available builds has disappeared. Indeed, (Z)FireCake recently lamented that

"Let’s imagine you are just starting SC2. First you will be a bit lost and what you will want to do is to find some content about how to play, what are the main strategies, what are you doing wrong, why are you losing? Etc…
Then try to Google “SC2 legacy of the void tutorial”, try to find resources on the internet, you will find nothing.
Maybe if you are lucky you will find HOTS/WOL build orders that will be of no use for you.
You just cannot learn the game by looking for help on the internet."


TL Strategy has long been a bastion of reliable SC2 knowledge, and it's about time we started rebuilding a reliable collection of builds for LotV. To do this, we've partnered with some of the best in the business to bring you (i) reliable strategies that you can put into practice on the ladder; (ii) a better practice experience so you can quickly learn new strategies and improve faster.

Who better to turn to for high quality builds than (Z)PiG. His dailies have become the definitive authority of SC2 strategy. We're teaming up with Jared to turn his build order-centric dailies in an easily readable, digestible form. This will give you a quick reference point to reinforce your knowledge before heading off into game, or provide you an introduction to the build before you go away and watch PiG explain the build in detail in his daily.

But we're not stopping there. Up until recently, the only way to memorise a build was to jump into a custom and grind out games (possibly using SALT or some variant) or be Artosis and carry a notebook full of build orders around. The folks over at spawningtool have been an indispensable resource for sharing builds over the years, and they've taken the next step to produce an app on the Overwolf platform to make learning new builds a breeze. The Spawning Tool Build Advisor app directly overlays a build you choose into your game of StarCraft 2 and walks you through the build from the start of the game.

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Every build that we feature will have a corresponding build order available within the Spawning Tool app so that you can jump straight into game and get playing. You can expect to see the first of PiG's content coming through next week, but for now we wanted to introduce you to the Spawning Tool app and show off what it can offer you in game.

How to get the Spawning Tool App:


To use Spawning Tool, first you must download Overwolf found here. Following that, you can either search for the spawning tool app through Overwolf, or follow this link. Now that you have Spawning Tool, let’s walkthrough the build on how to use it.

Using Spawning Tool:



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The build hub


After starting StarCraft 2 and having Overwolf launched in the background, this overlay will pop up over your menu (which can be toggled with control + Q). This is the hub for builds in Spawning Tool; every build entered into the app will be searched through here. In here, you have multiple search parameters:

  • Search by matchup: You can select both your and your opponent’s race to narrow down the initial list of builds
  • Sort by: This is a drop down menu with the options Hot, Top, New, Alphabetical. Each one does as their name implies
  • Type: Another drop down menu with the options All, Cheese, All-in, Timing Attack, Economic. These will further refine your search with more precise strategy for the build you are looking for.

If these are not enough to satiate your thirst for builds, there is also a search bar that works in tandem with all previous search criteria. In here you can input keywords such as professional players and units.

Selecting a build:


Selecting a build is quite simple, just click on a build that piqued your interest, and the build information will pop up. This screen includes the description of the build, the build order, and an analysis of the build. To activate the build, click the Pick Build! button next to the description, and another new window will pop up. To get out, simply click the back button next to the title of the build.

Using the build:


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The build tab


Now that we’ve selected a build, it’s time to hop in game and try it out! While the build is picked, launch a game and when the game starts, the build will also synchronously start with the game timer. As the game goes on, the build will automatically scroll down through itself to continue the build. In case of falling behind, you can simply pause the build until you catch back up. There is also an option to lock the tab in place, so you can move it to a convenient place on screen and lock it there.

And that’s it! Previously it was much harder to follow builds in game, but now with this tool you’ll be able to breeze through a build while not losing focus on the action in front of you. There are constantly new builds being created through Spawning Tool, have fun exploring all of them!

Brought to you by the TL Strategy Team in collaboration with Overwolf and Spawning Tool.

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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2212 Posts
January 09 2017 17:05 GMT
#2
Intriguing, I am interested to read some feedback and try it myself.

Thanks.
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
January 09 2017 17:13 GMT
#3
I am very interested in this since I haven't played ladder in over a year, but have been looking to get back in to non-co-op commander games.
Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
January 09 2017 17:17 GMT
#4
Interesting, this could work provided that builds are updated and new ones implemented frequently.
billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
January 09 2017 17:24 GMT
#5
As far as i know this tool has been out for awhile now, & according to what i just read, the only thing that appears new about it is that it will now be featured on teamliquid? I 1st learned of this tool on teamliquid weeks ago, but now it has a cool new label on it of 'partnered with teamliquid'. Cool. Hope it helps new players
i dont miss God but i sure miss Santa Claus
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 09 2017 17:27 GMT
#6
On January 10 2017 02:24 billynasty wrote:
As far as i know this tool has been out for awhile now, & according to what i just read, the only thing that appears new about it is that it will now be featured on teamliquid? I 1st learned of this tool on teamliquid weeks ago, but now it has a cool new label on it of 'partnered with teamliquid'. Cool. Hope it helps new players

We'll be putting out regular content which will get featured in the app we hope it helps new players, old players looking to get back into the swing of things, or even just current players looking to learn the other races.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
January 09 2017 17:29 GMT
#7
This is really cool!

I didnt know this was out there. Finally I can ditch the 2-1-1 build and do something else I guess!

I am wondering though, what is Pig's part in the partnership? Is it feeding the app with builds?
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
January 09 2017 17:33 GMT
#8
That is excellent, well done!
TL+ Member
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
January 09 2017 17:35 GMT
#9
That's terrific news, it's cool to see TL being back in the help a noob business.

There are plenty of new people or people trying new races atm, and there surely is a demand for this.

Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Morn_sc
Profile Blog Joined March 2015
United States40 Posts
January 09 2017 17:37 GMT
#10
On January 10 2017 02:29 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
This is really cool!

I didnt know this was out there. Finally I can ditch the 2-1-1 build and do something else I guess!

I am wondering though, what is Pig's part in the partnership? Is it feeding the app with builds?



He is going to be incorporating the app into his content to further help new players understand builds and have a resource to go find the exact build he's using.
Spawningtool3 marines vs lurker, round one: FIGHT!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 09 2017 17:38 GMT
#11
On January 10 2017 02:29 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
This is really cool!

I didnt know this was out there. Finally I can ditch the 2-1-1 build and do something else I guess!

I am wondering though, what is Pig's part in the partnership? Is it feeding the app with builds?

Our content will closely follow what Pig is doing. So if he does a show featuring a certain build, we'll have follow up article about that build and integration with spawning tool.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Caligo
Profile Joined January 2011
South Africa15 Posts
January 09 2017 17:39 GMT
#12
This is some exciting stuff. Hopefully this will help out many new and returning players, like myself, adjust to all these crazy LotV build orders and timings ^^ A round of applause to all those involved in this initiative!
"Until the very very top, in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in"-IdrA
Aelendis
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium892 Posts
January 09 2017 17:43 GMT
#13
This is just awsome!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
January 09 2017 17:50 GMT
#14
I've used the overwolf platform for hearthstone and just poked around with spawningtool - this may help me get back into playing StarCraft more regularly!
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 09 2017 17:57 GMT
#15
Is there any way to make the display click-through?
Cereal
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
January 09 2017 17:58 GMT
#16
Just tested, and approved! Great to see build guides back on TL!

What the hell is that option in overwolf though? "Browser settings : avoid getting caught, clear browsing history"
Seriously?

And why are sigs so small now Oo
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
January 09 2017 17:59 GMT
#17
On January 10 2017 02:58 ArtyK wrote:
Just tested, and approved! Great to see build guides back on TL!

What the hell is that option in overwolf though? "Browser settings : avoid getting caught, clear browsing history"
Seriously?

And why are sigs so small now Oo

looks like the CSS in the original post messed them up judging from the sig in OP :D
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-09 18:14:32
January 09 2017 18:14 GMT
#18
Congratulations! It's great to see PiG get some collaborating going with TL.

Did you guys enjoy working with Overwolf? They approached me about doing similar with Hero Builds but didn't see it as valuable to me as it is for them.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
January 09 2017 18:24 GMT
#19
Sick, literally sickening. This is clearly a zerg favored tool.
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1835 Posts
January 09 2017 18:29 GMT
#20
This is really nice. Too bad we didn't have something like this earlier.
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
January 09 2017 18:46 GMT
#21
This looks so awesome!!! :D Also so cool to work with PiG on this too!
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 09 2017 19:01 GMT
#22
Im getting chills about this! Artosis' nerd chills!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Roxas_
Profile Joined September 2013
United States51 Posts
January 09 2017 19:03 GMT
#23
Looks very similar to the Hero guides from Dota 2 Steam Workshop

I like this because it still favors the person that understands the context of builds. If you don't know the build, this will simply be something that distracts you from the mini-map and the game itself. I think this is going to be a very fair and useful tool for newcomers!
Time is shorter than you know
LordLannister47
Profile Joined January 2017
1 Post
January 09 2017 19:05 GMT
#24
Love the overlay, started using it just last week actually (found it in some other post on reddit) and love it much more than SALT. I'd be really interested in contributing to the development, can anyone comment on whether the overwolf app is open-source or if community development is desired? I see a lot of potential for other build orders/ learning styles to be supported.
Shortl4ndo
Profile Joined March 2016
2 Posts
January 09 2017 19:07 GMT
#25
can confirm is 10/10
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5411 Posts
January 09 2017 19:35 GMT
#26
Awesome! i need to use this... as a random player who plays in spurts every few months i really need some solid bos.

thanks!
DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
January 09 2017 19:41 GMT
#27
On January 10 2017 04:05 LordLannister47 wrote:
Love the overlay, started using it just last week actually (found it in some other post on reddit) and love it much more than SALT. I'd be really interested in contributing to the development, can anyone comment on whether the overwolf app is open-source or if community development is desired? I see a lot of potential for other build orders/ learning styles to be supported.


The app isn't open source, but we're definitely open to talking to potential collaborators. PM me and we can talk more specifics.
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
January 09 2017 19:43 GMT
#28
On January 10 2017 02:27 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 02:24 billynasty wrote:
As far as i know this tool has been out for awhile now, & according to what i just read, the only thing that appears new about it is that it will now be featured on teamliquid? I 1st learned of this tool on teamliquid weeks ago, but now it has a cool new label on it of 'partnered with teamliquid'. Cool. Hope it helps new players

We'll be putting out regular content which will get featured in the app we hope it helps new players, old players looking to get back into the swing of things, or even just current players looking to learn the other races.


Hit me up if you need Zerg builds :D
Team Liquidalea iacta est
Shyrshadi
Profile Joined June 2016
United States12 Posts
January 09 2017 19:49 GMT
#29
This looks really solid. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3415 Posts
January 09 2017 19:56 GMT
#30
This looks great. About time TL.net does something like this.
Morn_sc
Profile Blog Joined March 2015
United States40 Posts
January 09 2017 19:57 GMT
#31
On January 10 2017 03:29 Odoakar wrote:
This is really nice. Too bad we didn't have something like this earlier.


we originally released this a couple months ago and saw good use, but hopefully with teamliquid and PiG, we can help expose the rest of the community to what we have to offer
Spawningtool3 marines vs lurker, round one: FIGHT!
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 09 2017 20:07 GMT
#32
On January 10 2017 04:43 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 02:27 Plexa wrote:
On January 10 2017 02:24 billynasty wrote:
As far as i know this tool has been out for awhile now, & according to what i just read, the only thing that appears new about it is that it will now be featured on teamliquid? I 1st learned of this tool on teamliquid weeks ago, but now it has a cool new label on it of 'partnered with teamliquid'. Cool. Hope it helps new players

We'll be putting out regular content which will get featured in the app we hope it helps new players, old players looking to get back into the swing of things, or even just current players looking to learn the other races.


Hit me up if you need Zerg builds :D

oh my god, Dario-approved Zerg builds? that sounds amazing
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
January 09 2017 20:07 GMT
#33
Cool! Can you make your own builds or edit existing ones? Would it work with broodwar too?
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mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel322 Posts
January 09 2017 20:13 GMT
#34
I visited the overwolf offices once for a job interview. They have a pretty cool operation going on, the management are nice people and gamers at heart, and they seemed very interested in SC2. I wanna see where this goes.
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
January 09 2017 20:46 GMT
#35
How do I create a build for it?
Team Liquidalea iacta est
DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
January 09 2017 21:01 GMT
#36
On January 10 2017 05:46 Liquid`TLO wrote:
How do I create a build for it?


You can create and publish builds from our website http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/ . They will automatically be published in the overwolf overlay as well.

It can be a bit laborious to put in all of the steps, times, and supplies, so if you have replays, you can also upload those and then use the "copy this build" button to automatically extract those.

Let us know if you have any difficulty with it! I'm sure many Zerg players out there would love to see and follow your builds.
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
tAlionsc2
Profile Joined January 2017
13 Posts
January 09 2017 21:11 GMT
#37
you saved my life with this! i played hots alot but didnt play for like a year . bought lotv last week played one game and was soo lost because i couldnt build my depot on 11 :D i needed something like this badly! thanks alot
Mugen93
Profile Joined May 2015
16 Posts
January 09 2017 21:17 GMT
#38
Really nice work, LOTV really need and deserve this kind of things, it's the hardest expansion and this will hepl him to a lot more user friendly. Also the number of viewvers is slighty increased, hope this will be a great year for sc2!
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
January 09 2017 21:17 GMT
#39
On January 10 2017 06:01 DeathSoror wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 05:46 Liquid`TLO wrote:
How do I create a build for it?


You can create and publish builds from our website http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/ . They will automatically be published in the overwolf overlay as well.

It can be a bit laborious to put in all of the steps, times, and supplies, so if you have replays, you can also upload those and then use the "copy this build" button to automatically extract those.

Let us know if you have any difficulty with it! I'm sure many Zerg players out there would love to see and follow your builds.


And I'm sure many non-Zerg players will hate you for that :D
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
January 09 2017 21:27 GMT
#40
On January 10 2017 06:01 DeathSoror wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 05:46 Liquid`TLO wrote:
How do I create a build for it?


You can create and publish builds from our website http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/ . They will automatically be published in the overwolf overlay as well.

It can be a bit laborious to put in all of the steps, times, and supplies, so if you have replays, you can also upload those and then use the "copy this build" button to automatically extract those.

Let us know if you have any difficulty with it! I'm sure many Zerg players out there would love to see and follow your builds.


Oh thats's great, I'll get on it tomorrow. Thank you!
Team Liquidalea iacta est
Dungeontay
Profile Joined December 2015
126 Posts
January 09 2017 21:29 GMT
#41
if Alt+Q wasnt my main camera hotkey, it would be awesome TT
Zzz
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
January 09 2017 21:30 GMT
#42
Really excited for this.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
January 09 2017 21:38 GMT
#43
Whoa, I needed this to nudge me back to SC2 after a couple of weeks of barely playing.
Adun toridas!
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
January 09 2017 21:42 GMT
#44
On January 10 2017 06:29 Dungeontay wrote:
if Alt+Q wasnt my main camera hotkey, it would be awesome TT


you can change the hotkey in your overwolf settings
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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DrunkenSCV
Profile Joined November 2016
76 Posts
January 09 2017 21:52 GMT
#45
Thats what SC2 really needs. Do it, guys!
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
January 09 2017 22:03 GMT
#46
I feel like most of the builds there get completely wrecked in the current EU meta. The tool is nice though!
crank123
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany24 Posts
January 09 2017 22:07 GMT
#47
Hey, I downloaded and installed everything but the overlay isn't over-laying SC2 and the Hotkeys don't work (F6, Alt+Q). Any tips?
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
January 09 2017 22:15 GMT
#48
On January 10 2017 07:03 KeksX wrote:
I feel like most of the builds there get completely wrecked in the current EU meta. The tool is nice though!


Fortunately, they say that you can add your own just by pushing it out to their website!

On January 10 2017 06:01 DeathSoror wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 05:46 Liquid`TLO wrote:
How do I create a build for it?


You can create and publish builds from our website http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/ . They will automatically be published in the overwolf overlay as well.

It can be a bit laborious to put in all of the steps, times, and supplies, so if you have replays, you can also upload those and then use the "copy this build" button to automatically extract those.

Let us know if you have any difficulty with it! I'm sure many Zerg players out there would love to see and follow your builds.

moose...indian
xxjcdentonxx
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada163 Posts
January 09 2017 22:29 GMT
#49
wasn't there already a tool like this that was free and indie? this thing is serving up ads. borderline malware.
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Atokad
Profile Joined November 2010
United States204 Posts
January 09 2017 22:32 GMT
#50
This is a nice tool.

However I did stop using it because as a random player I am unable to start a build fast enough after the start of the match consistently and would miss the "grace period" or whatever it is for syncing up with the in-game clock. I was unable to use the tool on ~75% of my games unless I spam clicked the filters before building a worker and got the selection confirmed in time.

Will there be any grace time extensions or plans for random players to be able to utilize this app?

Thanks
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n3p
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
93 Posts
January 09 2017 23:20 GMT
#51
This actually looks super sick. This is going to help new players and experienced players alike.
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jeeeKyyy
Profile Joined December 2015
35 Posts
January 09 2017 23:27 GMT
#52
this is amazing! gonna give it a try asap, thank you
Marre2795
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway7 Posts
January 09 2017 23:44 GMT
#53
My first thought was: Is this approved by Blizzard? But then i read a little about it and found out that it was.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 09 2017 23:53 GMT
#54
Woooo TL Strategy! My baby is alive <3
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Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
January 10 2017 00:01 GMT
#55
cant wait to try it
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Marre2795
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway7 Posts
January 10 2017 00:01 GMT
#56
On January 10 2017 07:07 crank wrote:
Hey, I downloaded and installed everything but the overlay isn't over-laying SC2 and the Hotkeys don't work (F6, Alt+Q). Any tips?

Have you tried using it in a game(for example custom game)?

If i understand it correctly, you choose the build in the app, and when the game starts, you activate the overlay. I might be wrong though. I have only used it once.
Alternity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States74 Posts
January 10 2017 00:03 GMT
#57
I've been using this overlay for some time. However, you cannot just select any replay you upload, only the listed 'build orders'. This means most of the builds are already outdated, which is the same problem in the first place....

Basically the spawning tool overlay needs a way to select any replay that's been uploaded to lotv.spawningtool.com.

Once it has that this will be VERY useful, until then not so much sadly.
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
January 10 2017 00:22 GMT
#58
Cool stuff!
I have a question...
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
January 10 2017 00:29 GMT
#59
I googled SC2 legacy of the void tutorial and found Lowko and Winter videos.
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TaurinoSC
Profile Joined January 2017
1 Post
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 03:06:43
January 10 2017 03:00 GMT
#60
I just played 8 games with it.
It didnt feel satisfying there are too many things not working.

My first impression was quite good it looked nice and very clean which is important.
So i Downloaded it, then i noticed it comes with a hole other set of features (Overwolf) which i am not intrested in at all.
Well not a big deal. So i found the Spawning Tool Build Advisor in the Overwolf platform.
Opend it and made a test game vs ai.
I think the Build Order display works very well.
But i noticed that skipped steps dont get marked, when you are beeing pushed forward with gametime as it should be.
The Salt mod from Turtle has a good way of marking it. I hope you can get enought information from the game to do this.

Before the first real game i noted which BO i wanted to play in what MU.
In the loading screen i noticed issues with the overlay not reacting or reacting with big dealy.
When the game started i was able to choose the build with less delay.
Playing was just fine. Making the overlay smaller/transparent would be nice.
But when the build was finshed and the overlay started over again, i noticed a big spike.
So then i closed the build overlay this lead to another spike. Probably not network but i didnt have the sc2 stats on.

In the next load screen when i tried to choose my next build a 30 second video ad played.
This lead to me lagging the first few seconds after the game started because my connection is shit....
You can "skip" this ad by choosing your build faster but i still had reading to do.
I had trouble finding a good spot for the overlay. Small hint dont "stick" it to the border you will not be able to side scroll.
while throwing it around it a bit i noticed corresponding spikes/fps drops .
So just let it be dont touch it and it will work just fine.
But dont be too exited most build are really inconsistent in the beginning they might display scvs but will randomly stop displaying them even when they are still "part" of the build.
The spawning tool build orders are just a rough outline sometimes to rough to play them without understanding how the build will work. Sadly not noob frendly at all (at the moment).
I think it will be hard to create a usefull standart that people will stick to.
Beeing able to get the exact build Order out of a pro Replay would fix this issue.
I tried 8 builds 3 of them were "playable" at masters level but had me making bad mistakes because they where inconsistent. And the other 5 were straight up to old/bad to be usefull. You can import Replays to Salt encoding it has to give a way to do it here too.

TLDR:

Looks nice and works somewhat but comes with 3rd party platform.
Has "minor" fps and crash/restart issues.
Overlay blocks big part of visible screen
Most available build orders are not complete, well thought out or consistent.
There is a dire need for more information about how to use your stuff to make a bo playable on the first go.
No replay import, or saving of a build order implemented.

but overall could be a good starting point.
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
January 10 2017 04:01 GMT
#61
Looks and sounds really good, this seems like a really great tool to get new users into a higher depth of understanding when playing SC2. Awesome!
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A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
January 10 2017 05:24 GMT
#62
On January 10 2017 02:24 billynasty wrote:
As far as i know this tool has been out for awhile now, & according to what i just read, the only thing that appears new about it is that it will now be featured on teamliquid? I 1st learned of this tool on teamliquid weeks ago, but now it has a cool new label on it of 'partnered with teamliquid'. Cool. Hope it helps new players

been out for months. tried it when first released didnt like it much. might be better now, bit buggy back then.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
January 10 2017 05:41 GMT
#63
This sounds really promising. I think a lot of problems for new players in RTS is that a lot of the variety in effective strategies of how you approach every game isnt as blatant as like, picking a certain hero or a going a certain item build.

This is cool
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
January 10 2017 07:15 GMT
#64
Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.
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XiZeL
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland92 Posts
January 10 2017 07:25 GMT
#65
(Z)Lowko would be also a good partner for this i think
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adMachine
Profile Joined February 2013
Australia54 Posts
January 10 2017 08:08 GMT
#66
Will you do a build guide to avilos 50 minute raven turtle in every match up?
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 10 2017 08:15 GMT
#67
I'm sure whoever made the tool was a big fan.
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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 09:44:34
January 10 2017 09:44 GMT
#68
On January 10 2017 06:01 DeathSoror wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 05:46 Liquid`TLO wrote:
How do I create a build for it?


You can create and publish builds from our website http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/ . They will automatically be published in the overwolf overlay as well.

It can be a bit laborious to put in all of the steps, times, and supplies, so if you have replays, you can also upload those and then use the "copy this build" button to automatically extract those.

Let us know if you have any difficulty with it! I'm sure many Zerg players out there would love to see and follow your builds.


How long does it take until a replay shows up that you uploaded?

Edit: NVM I'm stupid
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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
January 10 2017 10:40 GMT
#69
Just published my first build! Go on Zergs, make Protoss players miserable.

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/42811/
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
January 10 2017 11:07 GMT
#70
On January 10 2017 19:40 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Just published my first build! Go on Zergs, make Protoss players miserable.

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/42811/


Thanks for taking part in this, will check it out.

But everyone knows that you can't follow TLO's build orders. Our brain might explode.
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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
January 10 2017 14:09 GMT
#71
On January 10 2017 20:07 Cosmos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 19:40 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Just published my first build! Go on Zergs, make Protoss players miserable.

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/42811/


Thanks for taking part in this, will check it out.

But everyone knows that you can't follow TLO's build orders. Our brain might explode.


Haha no problem, btw I noticed that when you click on an link in the description it opens up in your app but there's no way to return to the app. I just got stuck on imgur. I think being able to add pictures is pretty important

I would also recommend the ''hot'' tab to the default one rather than the ''top'' one. There's no real use seeing the top of all time builds again and again.
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zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
January 10 2017 14:32 GMT
#72
Absolutely fantastic! Love to see this kind of stuff from the community. Love you, PiG!!
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
January 10 2017 15:44 GMT
#73
On January 10 2017 07:15 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 07:03 KeksX wrote:
I feel like most of the builds there get completely wrecked in the current EU meta. The tool is nice though!


Fortunately, they say that you can add your own just by pushing it out to their website!

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 06:01 DeathSoror wrote:
On January 10 2017 05:46 Liquid`TLO wrote:
How do I create a build for it?


You can create and publish builds from our website http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/ . They will automatically be published in the overwolf overlay as well.

It can be a bit laborious to put in all of the steps, times, and supplies, so if you have replays, you can also upload those and then use the "copy this build" button to automatically extract those.

Let us know if you have any difficulty with it! I'm sure many Zerg players out there would love to see and follow your builds.



Aah thanks, I somehow read that it was just selected builds shown there. Then it's going to be awesome. Especially with players like TLO contributing :D
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
January 10 2017 15:50 GMT
#74
Everything in one place AWESOME!! thanks TL and GL to all
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VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
January 10 2017 16:05 GMT
#75
Holy shit, this looks REALLY SWELL! Exactly what I was missing trying to get back into actually playing StarCraft - no up-to-date builds to be found anywhere! And I guess this is slightly better than my trusty post-it-with-build-on-side-of-monitor too...

Will try this out right after I'm back from WESG.
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DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
January 10 2017 16:45 GMT
#76
On January 10 2017 07:32 Atokad wrote:
This is a nice tool.

However I did stop using it because as a random player I am unable to start a build fast enough after the start of the match consistently and would miss the "grace period" or whatever it is for syncing up with the in-game clock. I was unable to use the tool on ~75% of my games unless I spam clicked the filters before building a worker and got the selection confirmed in time.

Will there be any grace time extensions or plans for random players to be able to utilize this app?

Thanks


Good question. We're looking into some ways to smooth over the build picking process for any case where you don't know the matchup before the game starts (e.g. playing random, ladder games where your opponents race is shown on the load screen, etc.). We'll keep that in mind!

On January 10 2017 09:03 Alternity wrote:
I've been using this overlay for some time. However, you cannot just select any replay you upload, only the listed 'build orders'. This means most of the builds are already outdated, which is the same problem in the first place....

Basically the spawning tool overlay needs a way to select any replay that's been uploaded to lotv.spawningtool.com.

Once it has that this will be VERY useful, until then not so much sadly.


Yeah, we have partitioned the content between the replays and build orders. In our testing, we found that taking a build order straight from a replay was actually not a very good experience: there are a ton of workers at various steps, the "build" goes on much longer than the core of the game, etc. As such, we limited it to just the published build orders. However, we tried to make it as easy as possible to make a build order from a replay with the "Export as new Build Order" button, which does all the heavy-lifting of getting the steps in. From there, you can clean up the build into something publishable.

On January 10 2017 12:00 TaurinoSC wrote:
I just played 8 games with it.
It didnt feel satisfying there are too many things not working.

My first impression was quite good it looked nice and very clean which is important.
So i Downloaded it, then i noticed it comes with a hole other set of features (Overwolf) which i am not intrested in at all.
Well not a big deal. So i found the Spawning Tool Build Advisor in the Overwolf platform.
Opend it and made a test game vs ai.
I think the Build Order display works very well.
But i noticed that skipped steps dont get marked, when you are beeing pushed forward with gametime as it should be.
The Salt mod from Turtle has a good way of marking it. I hope you can get enought information from the game to do this.

Before the first real game i noted which BO i wanted to play in what MU.
In the loading screen i noticed issues with the overlay not reacting or reacting with big dealy.
When the game started i was able to choose the build with less delay.
Playing was just fine. Making the overlay smaller/transparent would be nice.
But when the build was finshed and the overlay started over again, i noticed a big spike.
So then i closed the build overlay this lead to another spike. Probably not network but i didnt have the sc2 stats on.

In the next load screen when i tried to choose my next build a 30 second video ad played.
This lead to me lagging the first few seconds after the game started because my connection is shit....
You can "skip" this ad by choosing your build faster but i still had reading to do.
I had trouble finding a good spot for the overlay. Small hint dont "stick" it to the border you will not be able to side scroll.
while throwing it around it a bit i noticed corresponding spikes/fps drops .
So just let it be dont touch it and it will work just fine.
But dont be too exited most build are really inconsistent in the beginning they might display scvs but will randomly stop displaying them even when they are still "part" of the build.
The spawning tool build orders are just a rough outline sometimes to rough to play them without understanding how the build will work. Sadly not noob frendly at all (at the moment).
I think it will be hard to create a usefull standart that people will stick to.
Beeing able to get the exact build Order out of a pro Replay would fix this issue.
I tried 8 builds 3 of them were "playable" at masters level but had me making bad mistakes because they where inconsistent. And the other 5 were straight up to old/bad to be usefull. You can import Replays to Salt encoding it has to give a way to do it here too.

TLDR:

Looks nice and works somewhat but comes with 3rd party platform.
Has "minor" fps and crash/restart issues.
Overlay blocks big part of visible screen
Most available build orders are not complete, well thought out or consistent.
There is a dire need for more information about how to use your stuff to make a bo playable on the first go.
No replay import, or saving of a build order implemented.

but overall could be a good starting point.


Appreciate the detailed feedback. A few responses:

1. the poor response on the loading screen is out of our control. Your computer is working really hard to load game content into memory and initialize game state so that the game will start as fast as possible, so everything on your computer is slow during that time (at least until you are done loading and are just waiting for your opponent)
2. we're definitely counting on the community to make sure that there are high quality build orders on the site, so if you find it hard to follow any of them, definitely leave comments on the build on the website at http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/ and hopefully that will be addressed!

On January 10 2017 23:09 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 20:07 Cosmos wrote:
On January 10 2017 19:40 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Just published my first build! Go on Zergs, make Protoss players miserable.

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/42811/


Thanks for taking part in this, will check it out.

But everyone knows that you can't follow TLO's build orders. Our brain might explode.


Haha no problem, btw I noticed that when you click on an link in the description it opens up in your app but there's no way to return to the app. I just got stuck on imgur. I think being able to add pictures is pretty important

I would also recommend the ''hot'' tab to the default one rather than the ''top'' one. There's no real use seeing the top of all time builds again and again.


Thanks for posting the build! Noted the issue with the link. Also agreed on swapping the default sort order. We're excited to see so many people posting current builds, so we should see high quality builds come through there.


Thanks everyone for the enthusiasm and feedback. We definitely have a lot of work ahead to continue to make this work better for you, so please continue to send along any comments here, to me, or Morn_sc, and we will try to make something awesome!
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
Loddigesia
Profile Joined April 2010
247 Posts
January 10 2017 17:51 GMT
#77
That is really cool!
Never heard of Overwolf before, I really appreciate that it does not need registration to work.

A couple of questions:
  • Would it be possible to place the overlay window on another monitor? currently the window vanishes if I do that
  • Also resize the window? finding it a bit small
  • How does it automatically detect the start of a game? does it read in game memory? Is such a tool accepted by Blizzard?
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
January 10 2017 21:37 GMT
#78
This is awesome! Back to play random....lots of fun
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 10 2017 21:58 GMT
#79
So has anyone perceived any performance dips with this running? If so, how significant? I value my FPS greatly but this is very useful for when practicing a new style/build.
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TheTrenchTier
Profile Joined October 2016
21 Posts
January 11 2017 04:58 GMT
#80
The hotkeys on the spawningtool app were interfering with the hotkeys I have in game. Is there some remedy for this(besides changing my SC2 hotkeys, which I just finished relearning)
RoDeX
Profile Joined January 2017
1 Post
January 11 2017 05:55 GMT
#81
On January 11 2017 13:58 TheTrenchTier wrote:
The hotkeys on the spawningtool app were interfering with the hotkeys I have in game. Is there some remedy for this(besides changing my SC2 hotkeys, which I just finished relearning)


Hey, my name is Asaf, from the Overwolf team. You can open the Overwolf dock and click on the little wrench icon to get into the settings. Then look for the "Hotkeys" tab, you'll be able to change the SpawningTool hotkeys there. I hope it helps!
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
January 11 2017 06:20 GMT
#82
Wow good stuff!
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AVirtualGigolo
Profile Joined December 2016
12 Posts
January 11 2017 06:43 GMT
#83
This is actually something that could have helped bring in new players a while ago...I'm not 100% sure I'll prefer having that much of the screen taken up but this is definitely an awesome tool. Particularly for beginners or people jumping back in.
WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
January 11 2017 11:15 GMT
#84
Is this legal? Dont want to get banned for "cheating" ----> Licence agreement... has someone checked what Blizz says about 3rd party software in background?

Otherwise this is great i would use it!
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XeZbeth
Profile Joined September 2016
1 Post
January 11 2017 11:35 GMT
#85
Wow! This is super cool! Huge thanks to everyone who made this possible!
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
January 11 2017 11:51 GMT
#86
Very nice initiative. Don't think it'll help much the game from hemorraging players though.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 11 2017 16:02 GMT
#87
On January 11 2017 20:15 WhosQuany wrote:
Is this legal? Dont want to get banned for "cheating" ----> Licence agreement... has someone checked what Blizz says about 3rd party software in background?

Otherwise this is great i would use it!
Yes this complies with EULA; this is no more than a (much more convenient) sticky note on your monitor!
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
January 11 2017 16:32 GMT
#88
On January 11 2017 14:55 RoDeX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 13:58 TheTrenchTier wrote:
The hotkeys on the spawningtool app were interfering with the hotkeys I have in game. Is there some remedy for this(besides changing my SC2 hotkeys, which I just finished relearning)


Hey, my name is Asaf, from the Overwolf team. You can open the Overwolf dock and click on the little wrench icon to get into the settings. Then look for the "Hotkeys" tab, you'll be able to change the SpawningTool hotkeys there. I hope it helps!


Actually the hotkeys don't work for me either, wether i use the default ones or change them.
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Morn_sc
Profile Blog Joined March 2015
United States40 Posts
January 12 2017 18:45 GMT
#89
On January 10 2017 07:32 Atokad wrote:
This is a nice tool.

However I did stop using it because as a random player I am unable to start a build fast enough after the start of the match consistently and would miss the "grace period" or whatever it is for syncing up with the in-game clock. I was unable to use the tool on ~75% of my games unless I spam clicked the filters before building a worker and got the selection confirmed in time.

Will there be any grace time extensions or plans for random players to be able to utilize this app?

Thanks


We know this is an issue for some players and its on the list of things to do in the future
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Morn_sc
Profile Blog Joined March 2015
United States40 Posts
January 12 2017 18:46 GMT
#90
On January 11 2017 20:15 WhosQuany wrote:
Is this legal? Dont want to get banned for "cheating" ----> Licence agreement... has someone checked what Blizz says about 3rd party software in background?

Otherwise this is great i would use it!


We have permission from Blizzard. We had the same thoughts and reached out to them before release
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DERASTAT
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany99 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-12 20:48:12
January 12 2017 20:40 GMT
#91
On January 11 2017 20:15 WhosQuany wrote:
Is this legal? Dont want to get banned for "cheating" ----> Licence agreement... has someone checked what Blizz says about 3rd party software in background?

Otherwise this is great i would use it!

When you just play ladder nobody really cares, in torunaments it would be a problem, and for learning builds an empty Custom is way better
EDIT: ladder games are way to stressful, and like any other Sport, focus on one thing at a time
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WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
January 12 2017 22:17 GMT
#92
Very nice. I like it a lot
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
Trizztein
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada45 Posts
January 13 2017 12:25 GMT
#93
hello what I haven't liked about the SALT tool really is just the fact I can't add steps like ''swap barracks on reactor'' or ''send scouting SCV'' or ''push out now'' etc. so many things that seem important to me but that I just can't implement. Will this tool fix that?
DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
January 13 2017 16:46 GMT
#94
On January 13 2017 21:25 Trizztein wrote:
hello what I haven't liked about the SALT tool really is just the fact I can't add steps like ''swap barracks on reactor'' or ''send scouting SCV'' or ''push out now'' etc. so many things that seem important to me but that I just can't implement. Will this tool fix that?


Good point. We will integrate that into the app. On the website, you can add a "unit" into your build order called "Action" and then put notes out to the right (for example, see http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/42702/ ). We haven't put the notes into the overwolf overlay yet, but we can definitely do that.
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
DForDanny
Profile Joined January 2017
1 Post
January 13 2017 16:55 GMT
#95
Is there anyway to change the hotkey to pause the build order from F6 to something else? The only hotkey options in the settings I get is to change "show spawning tool" and "lock spawning tool miniwindow".

I think the build shouldn't follow the timer as well but the supply instead, right now for example if you have to pull a worker to stop a probe killing your scv you fall behind by like 5 seconds and then it snowballs and you're miles behind the build. Maybe add an option to either follow supply or timer if that is possible?

Also is there anyway to make it so you can adjust the size of the window with the build in? My monitor is 2560 x 1440 and the text is pretty small.

Overall though it has a lot of potential I think, will be using it more!
InstantKarma
Profile Joined November 2010
United States205 Posts
January 13 2017 22:37 GMT
#96
Wow, I have played sc2 in years and have been reluctant to start up because of the work of learning new build orders. Now I think I'll pick it back up.
dr3am_b3ing
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada188 Posts
January 15 2017 15:19 GMT
#97
Only for windows?
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DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
January 16 2017 16:49 GMT
#98
Was about time. Great work. Keep it up!
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DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
January 16 2017 19:13 GMT
#99
On January 14 2017 01:55 DForDanny wrote:
Is there anyway to change the hotkey to pause the build order from F6 to something else? The only hotkey options in the settings I get is to change "show spawning tool" and "lock spawning tool miniwindow".

I think the build shouldn't follow the timer as well but the supply instead, right now for example if you have to pull a worker to stop a probe killing your scv you fall behind by like 5 seconds and then it snowballs and you're miles behind the build. Maybe add an option to either follow supply or timer if that is possible?

Also is there anyway to make it so you can adjust the size of the window with the build in? My monitor is 2560 x 1440 and the text is pretty small.

Overall though it has a lot of potential I think, will be using it more!


Thanks for the feedback. A few responses on this:

1. Definitely will look into the hotkeys. We have gotten a lot of feedback about this, so we will improve the experience with that
2. Unfortunately, it's tricky to follow supply counts. That would require that we be inspecting the state of the game more continuously (instead of just detecting the start of the game), and that gets into a slippery slope. Also, in your example, if you were to lose a SCV, then all of the supply counts would be off by 1 anyways.
3. Others have mentioned the screen size as well, and we will look into it. There's a bit of a balancing act between making it visible and also not covering up too much of the game itself, but hopefully we will come to a good balance.

Thanks again for trying it out and providing feedback!
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
February 07 2017 00:49 GMT
#100
This doesn't seem to be working for it as the spawning tool app keeps disappearing into the background when I launch SC2. Also, the game timer on the spawning pool app doesn't start when the game has been started.
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Kiaph
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
112 Posts
April 02 2017 20:36 GMT
#101
This is very nice, I want to see how this works from source if that is possible,

I couldn't figure out how to get an overlay that worked in Full screen mode... but these guys did it, and I want to know how :D
Zulu23
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany132 Posts
April 03 2017 17:04 GMT
#102
what I did from time to time is to load the spawning tool builds into salt, played the build and while i played it I recorded the audio from the game.
Salt can announce the build order from spawning tool. So I was able to simultaneusly start the audio file with the game and have the build on ear while not beeing distracted with my eyes... awesome, but a lot of preparation for just one build.
Footstomp-SC2
Profile Joined June 2016
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 18:41:37
May 15 2017 18:41 GMT
#103
Since a few days ago, the synchronized game timer doesnt work. I can only start it with F6. Any one else experiencing the same problem? Or even better, has a solution?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
May 16 2017 01:01 GMT
#104
Woah, awesome work guys! Spawning Tool has come a long way.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
May 22 2017 21:37 GMT
#105
On May 16 2017 03:41 Footstomp-SC2 wrote:
Since a few days ago, the synchronized game timer doesnt work. I can only start it with F6. Any one else experiencing the same problem? Or even better, has a solution?


Oops, definitely missed this. we just shipped a fix for it last week, so make sure you are up-to-date with both your Overwolf and Build Advisor app. hopefully that works for you
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
May 22 2017 22:17 GMT
#106
are the Strategy articles collected somewhere? Would be nice with a list/an overview
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
May 22 2017 23:13 GMT
#107
On May 23 2017 07:17 sneakyfox wrote:
are the Strategy articles collected somewhere? Would be nice with a list/an overview


Currently no, but we're planning to get that marked soon in the app with our next iteration. Though now that I think about it, we could probably put that on the website now. Good idea!
Spawningtoolhttp://spawningtool.com - browse replays by players, maps, build orders, and upload your replays to see build orders
pedz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States13 Posts
December 26 2017 01:22 GMT
#108
I guess there is not a version of this for the Mac? :-(
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
May 22 2018 12:38 GMT
#109
Is this app still getting updated and is the partnership still going on?
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