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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 07 2016 00:26 GMT
#121
On December 07 2016 08:54 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 08:41 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 07 2016 08:21 Xamo wrote:
On December 07 2016 00:44 FireCake wrote:

Sadly Apollo and many other personnalities and commentators that lied about the state of Sc2 in order to get money/a jump in their career/more opportunities will never have any problems at all.

In the meantime Life is in prison for throwing 2 games in a video game.

WHAT... Life is in prision for accepting money to alter the result of a match that had many bets on. Basically he helped to steal money from those who had bet for him, and give it to the criminals that bet against him. Your wording suggests that his fault was not too big, and this is absolutely regrettable.

Not to mention that every type of gambling is prohibited in Korea, it was some underground betting


Which is not true; what SK prohibits is private betting.

Oh, thanks for straightening it out, I based that on articles 246 and 247 from this act though
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
December 07 2016 00:26 GMT
#122
On December 07 2016 02:35 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 01:56 Wintex wrote:
On December 07 2016 01:34 Sapphire.lux wrote:
What's all this Blizzard Korea vs "real" Blizzard? Blizzard Korea does what Blizzard HQ wants; it's not some sort of rogue org. If you're gonna hate on Blizz then hate on the decision makers, not the employs that carry out the orders.

dunno man

Some cultures like the Korean culture are usually very quick to try to find a scapegoat to take responsibility for stuff. I honestly think Blizzard KR didn't care too much anymore and negative nancied more than I believe that the actual devs who made the game wanted it to stop.

Sad anyhow, but yea. Bring on OW or BW.

On December 07 2016 01:06 eviltomahawk wrote:
On December 07 2016 00:55 207aicila wrote:
On December 07 2016 00:51 eviltomahawk wrote:
Everything I hear about Blizzard Korea makes me like that branch less and less. Maybe they did lose a bunch of good talent to Riot back in the day. Maybe they are just out of touch. I wonder if things would've been different if Mike Morhaime had been in the room since that guy seems do actually care about Starcraft.


Morhaime's such a great dude, I shudder to think how much worse things would be if it weren't for his passion for the game.

His passion is what's keeping the game afloat through Blizzard's direct support. Any other company would've abandoned ship earlier under these conditions. I even heard that he regretted sinking the BW pro scene and how they handled the entire switch.


Exactly, it's at the very least not Morhaime beheading the game. Every time he talks about his games it's like a dad boasting about his son's football play.

There is Activision to consider here. That alone explains a lot of things blizz did in regards to many of its games.

Activision and Blizzard, while partners in many ways, are not linked operating wise.

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Also, people really need to assess the fact that writing the word purposefully in a sentence regarding Blizzard ending the life of two of the biggest e-sports games ever. There are many factors to consider in something as crazy as this situation, and I have been mad at Blizzard for many a patch change, but linking the situation that happened with Brood War to this situation is not really appropriate. This time, the game never really had a footing with anything other than a solid, small fanbase, and got, most likely not intentionally, put in the position where it was the game that came during a generational switch in e-sports, with the free-to-play genre exploding. StarCraft II still did quite alright considering, and while some actions by the developer were questionable, like the queen change of May 2012, a lot of it was good. At the very least, it's not Blizzard as an entity that slayed the game, but a multitude of factors like match fixing, a divided fanbase with different opinions on what StarCraft should be, bad seeds in Blizzard KR, and maybe even a mismatch between the current e-sports demographic and the people who have watched since forever.

Also, one can appreciate a lot of the players in their former habitat, or find a new flavor of e-sports now. Maybe for the best?

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Oh by the way, JackONeil, your posting is atrocious. Read what you are writing and try to get some better outlook on how you are framing yourself and who you are speaking to. It's incredible how you are just coming up with random ass Trump-esque statements about how much the establishment sucks and then justifying it by telling people that your money is so valuable it can't ever go into Blizzard's games again.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 07 2016 00:29 GMT
#123
On December 07 2016 09:03 LongShot27 wrote:
Also in response to the title of the article and the few true SC2 fans that remain even after this traumatic experience:

"My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those that stand beside you now. Trust in each other. Strike as one will. Let our last stand burn a memory so bright we will be remembered forever. En taro Tassadar!"

You say that you love starcraft but refer to SC2 fans in third person + you keep spewing out jokes or whatever you want to call it
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BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
December 07 2016 00:39 GMT
#124
On December 06 2016 23:32 aQuaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 23:30 sharkie wrote:
and to think how many people got warned or banned on TL because they were speaking the things Stork actually confirmed for us now heh

They were not speaking, they were gossiping

Well it's a good thing the mods lowered the player base by banning those people and proving them right. They have saved them from countless of potential wasted hours into this dead game. They have probably all migrated to reddit and are enjoying different outlets, such as csgo, dota2, hearthstone, overwatch, and like 213127389 other games

I used to frequent TL a lot, but the mods here are nazis, absolutely unacceptable... I won't miss this cesspool of shitstains at all.

Goodbye you NAZI MODS

-shekyeung

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Letter To Henry L. Pierce and Others" (April 6, 1858), p. 376.

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 07 2016 00:43 GMT
#125
On December 07 2016 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 23:32 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:30 sharkie wrote:
and to think how many people got warned or banned on TL because they were speaking the things Stork actually confirmed for us now heh

They were not speaking, they were gossiping

Well it's a good thing the mods lowered the player base by banning those people and proving them right. They have saved them from countless of potential wasted hours into this dead game. They have probably all migrated to reddit and are enjoying different outlets, such as csgo, dota2, hearthstone, overwatch, and like 213127389 other games

I used to frequent TL a lot, but the mods here are nazis, absolutely unacceptable... I won't miss this cesspool of shitstains at all.

Goodbye you NAZI MODS

-shekyeung

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Letter To Henry L. Pierce and Others" (April 6, 1858), p. 376.

I don't get it, is this some kind of spicy meme.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 00:48 GMT
#126
On December 07 2016 09:43 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:32 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:30 sharkie wrote:
and to think how many people got warned or banned on TL because they were speaking the things Stork actually confirmed for us now heh

They were not speaking, they were gossiping

Well it's a good thing the mods lowered the player base by banning those people and proving them right. They have saved them from countless of potential wasted hours into this dead game. They have probably all migrated to reddit and are enjoying different outlets, such as csgo, dota2, hearthstone, overwatch, and like 213127389 other games

I used to frequent TL a lot, but the mods here are nazis, absolutely unacceptable... I won't miss this cesspool of shitstains at all.

Goodbye you NAZI MODS

-shekyeung

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Letter To Henry L. Pierce and Others" (April 6, 1858), p. 376.

I don't get it, is this some kind of spicy meme.


No just people venting for being treated like shit because they pointed out facts and were told they were "dead game" trolls.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 00:49 GMT
#127
On December 07 2016 09:29 aQuaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:03 LongShot27 wrote:
Also in response to the title of the article and the few true SC2 fans that remain even after this traumatic experience:

"My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those that stand beside you now. Trust in each other. Strike as one will. Let our last stand burn a memory so bright we will be remembered forever. En taro Tassadar!"

You say that you love starcraft but refer to SC2 fans in third person + you keep spewing out jokes or whatever you want to call it


Man using a single player quote to show solidarity with the people who are still clinging to a game they love out of principle is a really shit thing to do. Do you even think before you type?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 00:52:53
December 07 2016 00:51 GMT
#128
Wow. ....wow. So i played brood war super casually, completely oblivious to the pro-scean or even how to be good at the game. (The only reason i ever used hotkeys in bw was to prepare for Sc2 ha)

While Sc2 may not be a perfect coincidence of balance and design, like Broodwar was. I still prefer playing Sc2, due to the fact i believe it functions how a modern rts should, with unlimited unit selection and such. So when people were starting to move back to BW, i was actually a bit frustrated to see the scene fracturing like that.

Though given these Stork revelations, they have totally redirected my anger to Blizzard. And have given me one player that i hope can become dominant again in Stork.

Also have an even greater level of respect for all the pros who continue to play sc2.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 07 2016 00:52 GMT
#129
On December 07 2016 09:49 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:29 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:03 LongShot27 wrote:
Also in response to the title of the article and the few true SC2 fans that remain even after this traumatic experience:

"My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those that stand beside you now. Trust in each other. Strike as one will. Let our last stand burn a memory so bright we will be remembered forever. En taro Tassadar!"

You say that you love starcraft but refer to SC2 fans in third person + you keep spewing out jokes or whatever you want to call it


Man using a single player quote to show solidarity with the people who are still clinging to a game they love out of principle is a really shit thing to do. Do you even think before you type?


Clearly you don't, so why should he?
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 00:54 GMT
#130
On December 07 2016 09:52 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:49 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:29 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:03 LongShot27 wrote:
Also in response to the title of the article and the few true SC2 fans that remain even after this traumatic experience:

"My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those that stand beside you now. Trust in each other. Strike as one will. Let our last stand burn a memory so bright we will be remembered forever. En taro Tassadar!"

You say that you love starcraft but refer to SC2 fans in third person + you keep spewing out jokes or whatever you want to call it


Man using a single player quote to show solidarity with the people who are still clinging to a game they love out of principle is a really shit thing to do. Do you even think before you type?


Clearly you don't, so why should he?


"I know you are but what am I" that's your comeback? Really? We've come full circle back to kindergarten.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
December 07 2016 00:54 GMT
#131
On December 07 2016 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:43 Plexa wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:32 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:30 sharkie wrote:
and to think how many people got warned or banned on TL because they were speaking the things Stork actually confirmed for us now heh

They were not speaking, they were gossiping

Well it's a good thing the mods lowered the player base by banning those people and proving them right. They have saved them from countless of potential wasted hours into this dead game. They have probably all migrated to reddit and are enjoying different outlets, such as csgo, dota2, hearthstone, overwatch, and like 213127389 other games

I used to frequent TL a lot, but the mods here are nazis, absolutely unacceptable... I won't miss this cesspool of shitstains at all.

Goodbye you NAZI MODS

-shekyeung

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Letter To Henry L. Pierce and Others" (April 6, 1858), p. 376.

I don't get it, is this some kind of spicy meme.


No just people venting for being treated like shit because they pointed out facts and were told they were "dead game" trolls.

poisoning the forums with your dead game memes isn't pointing out facts
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 01:01 GMT
#132
On December 07 2016 09:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:43 Plexa wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:32 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:30 sharkie wrote:
and to think how many people got warned or banned on TL because they were speaking the things Stork actually confirmed for us now heh

They were not speaking, they were gossiping

Well it's a good thing the mods lowered the player base by banning those people and proving them right. They have saved them from countless of potential wasted hours into this dead game. They have probably all migrated to reddit and are enjoying different outlets, such as csgo, dota2, hearthstone, overwatch, and like 213127389 other games

I used to frequent TL a lot, but the mods here are nazis, absolutely unacceptable... I won't miss this cesspool of shitstains at all.

Goodbye you NAZI MODS

-shekyeung

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Letter To Henry L. Pierce and Others" (April 6, 1858), p. 376.

I don't get it, is this some kind of spicy meme.


No just people venting for being treated like shit because they pointed out facts and were told they were "dead game" trolls.

poisoning the forums with your dead game memes isn't pointing out facts


Everything isn't a meme kid, some people actually use part of something they enjoyed in a sincere way. And Im one of the few people on this site who's never called starcraft a dead game, who has actually tried to help new players get into following the pro scene, who's written articles about every god forsaken tournament that you'll refuse to watch, who's defended players and fans from attacks by would-be "esports journalists", who's called out shit players and personalities who treat the community like it's their own personal playground, don't you ever call spreading facts and trying to help a struggling game poison you self righteous, pretentious keyboard warrior.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 07 2016 01:02 GMT
#133
On December 07 2016 09:49 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:29 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:03 LongShot27 wrote:
Also in response to the title of the article and the few true SC2 fans that remain even after this traumatic experience:

"My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those that stand beside you now. Trust in each other. Strike as one will. Let our last stand burn a memory so bright we will be remembered forever. En taro Tassadar!"

You say that you love starcraft but refer to SC2 fans in third person + you keep spewing out jokes or whatever you want to call it


Man using a single player quote to show solidarity with the people who are still clinging to a game they love out of principle is a really shit thing to do. Do you even think before you type?

Don't get me wrong, but given how serious the situation is it felt kind of cheesy so I took it as a joke
TL+ Member
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 07 2016 01:05 GMT
#134
On December 07 2016 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:43 Plexa wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:32 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:30 sharkie wrote:
and to think how many people got warned or banned on TL because they were speaking the things Stork actually confirmed for us now heh

They were not speaking, they were gossiping

Well it's a good thing the mods lowered the player base by banning those people and proving them right. They have saved them from countless of potential wasted hours into this dead game. They have probably all migrated to reddit and are enjoying different outlets, such as csgo, dota2, hearthstone, overwatch, and like 213127389 other games

I used to frequent TL a lot, but the mods here are nazis, absolutely unacceptable... I won't miss this cesspool of shitstains at all.

Goodbye you NAZI MODS

-shekyeung

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Letter To Henry L. Pierce and Others" (April 6, 1858), p. 376.

I don't get it, is this some kind of spicy meme.


No just people venting for being treated like shit because they pointed out facts and were told they were "dead game" trolls.


There are lots and lots of people who are realistic about sc2's situation who didn't get in trouble with mods even a single time. I wonder how that is possible, hmmmm.
Maybe you shouldn't pretend that "dead game" spaming is "pointing out facts", that might be it?
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 01:08:02
December 07 2016 01:07 GMT
#135
Accidental double post, please delete
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
December 07 2016 01:07 GMT
#136
MVP didnt lose his G5L for this ;-;
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 01:07 GMT
#137
On December 07 2016 09:51 Cyanocyst wrote:
Wow. ....wow. So i played brood war super casually, completely oblivious to the pro-scean or even how to be good at the game. (The only reason i ever used hotkeys in bw was to prepare for Sc2 ha)

While Sc2 may not be a perfect coincidence of balance and design, like Broodwar was. I still prefer playing Sc2, due to the fact i believe it functions how a modern rts should, with unlimited unit selection and such. So when people were starting to move back to BW, i was actually a bit frustrated to see the scene fracturing like that.

Though given these Stork revelations, they have totally redirected my anger to Blizzard. And have given me one player that i hope can become dominant again in Stork.

Also have an even greater level of respect for all the pros who continue to play sc2.


Everyone likes Stork...even White-Ra who he fucked out of a top 3 at WCG 2007 by losing on purpose. He's just likable.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
December 07 2016 01:08 GMT
#138
On December 07 2016 10:01 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:43 Plexa wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:32 aQuaSC wrote:
On December 06 2016 23:30 sharkie wrote:
and to think how many people got warned or banned on TL because they were speaking the things Stork actually confirmed for us now heh

They were not speaking, they were gossiping

Well it's a good thing the mods lowered the player base by banning those people and proving them right. They have saved them from countless of potential wasted hours into this dead game. They have probably all migrated to reddit and are enjoying different outlets, such as csgo, dota2, hearthstone, overwatch, and like 213127389 other games

I used to frequent TL a lot, but the mods here are nazis, absolutely unacceptable... I won't miss this cesspool of shitstains at all.

Goodbye you NAZI MODS

-shekyeung

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Letter To Henry L. Pierce and Others" (April 6, 1858), p. 376.

I don't get it, is this some kind of spicy meme.


No just people venting for being treated like shit because they pointed out facts and were told they were "dead game" trolls.

poisoning the forums with your dead game memes isn't pointing out facts


Everything isn't a meme kid, some people actually use part of something they enjoyed in a sincere way. And Im one of the few people on this site who's never called starcraft a dead game, who has actually tried to help new players get into following the pro scene, who's written articles about every god forsaken tournament that you'll refuse to watch, who's defended players and fans from attacks by would-be "esports journalists", who's called out shit players and personalities who treat the community like it's their own personal playground, don't you ever call spreading facts and trying to help a struggling game poison you self righteous, pretentious keyboard warrior.


Man I'm sure this post is going to spark a totally rational discussion. If you want to fight, please take it to PM, otherwise at least try to be civil.
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BaronVonOwn
Profile Joined April 2011
299 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 01:21:48
December 07 2016 01:20 GMT
#139
On December 07 2016 06:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 06:56 BaronVonOwn wrote:
I'm convinced that Jimmy is either a secret Blizzard PR account... Or he desperately wants to work at Blizzard.


i'm merely a consumer who spends money in exchange for interactive entertainment products. Blizzard is a good option for my cash relative to my other options. Most of the moaning, whining, and complaining comes from other consumers who believe they are junior game designers. anyhow , if you want to get a game of C&C4 going... lemme know how that goes.

You love to compare SC2 to other RTS games. But you always choose one of the losers like C&C. What about Brood War? Why is BW resurging while SC2 is 6 feet under? Even going by your own standards, this proves everything you say is wrong. There is a market for RTS, and it's headed towards BW because SC2 is the inferior product.

You can call it "amateur game design" if you want but I know what I want in an RTS, I know why my friends quit, and I've listened to the opinions of many other gamers on why they don't play SC2. They all say the same thing and it's honestly not rocket science.
horrypotter
Profile Joined September 2016
11 Posts
December 07 2016 01:21 GMT
#140
I'm so surprised a lot of people is rage at Blizzard on this topic. I know this is sad, I feel sad too, but really understandable if you are matured adult.

Image your boss is trying to use a lot of money for dwindling and not promising project despite there are other growing and promising project.

If Blizzard completely stop development of SC2 and support for SC2 e-sports now, I may get rage like you , but they are still supporting this game.
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