EPTFireCake's opinion on the decline of StarCraft 2 - Page 2
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Neric
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KT_Elwood
Germany1185 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 28 2016 04:38 SC2Towelie wrote: This "dead game" shit is honestly getting ridiculous... It's honestly had a direct negative influence on the game. Who's gonna sponsor a game when the first thing anyone says when it's brought up is "lol ded game" | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On November 28 2016 03:49 Ppjack wrote: shouldn't all the dead game prophets be banned from TL ? thought it was against the rules  Where's Seeker who's been stalking me and banning for 1 week freaking twice for nothing? I didn't even get answer from him. Entire thread is about "dead game" concept. Why no one gets banned this time, huh?!!! Are you man enough now to admit this? Or you gonna repeat again? If I get ban this is joke... I'm going to write directly to Nazgul. | ||
Poopi
France13015 Posts
On November 28 2016 05:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's honestly had a direct negative influence on the game. Who's gonna sponsor a game when the first thing anyone says when it's brought up is "lol ded game" If I understand correctly he is talking about the esport death of sc2, not the death of sc2, which would translate into empty ladder and stuff like that (and that isn't the case in 1v1). Since there are real signs and consequences of decline/death (end of proleague, new WCS induced retirements, star players retirement, teams disbanding) there is actually something to talk about right now. I didn't watch the video but I'm pretty sure it isn't about daed game memes, it's probably thoughtful. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 28 2016 05:09 Poopi wrote: If I understand correctly he is talking about the esport death of sc2, not the death of sc2, which would translate into empty ladder and stuff like that (and that isn't the case in 1v1). Since there are real signs and consequences of decline/death (end of proleague, new WCS induced retirements, star players retirement, teams disbanding) there is actually something to talk about right now. I didn't watch the video but I'm pretty sure it isn't about daed game memes, it's probably thoughtful. Regardless of what specific aspect of the game he's talking about and if there are signs of it or not, we need to stop using the words dead and death. When casuals start spamming that shit everywhere because some one told them SC2 died then it has a real effect on SC2 | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On November 28 2016 04:49 Neric wrote: It is very simple: The game got destroyed by expansions. You can see a similar problem with other titles like WoW. I highly agree with this, WoW is quiet good example. Those fellas who launched petition for returning vanilla WoW are like BW players which want their game back. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 28 2016 04:49 Neric wrote: It is very simple: The game got destroyed by expansions. You can see a similar problem with other titles like WoW. I disagree, for the most part the expansions have only made the game better, not worse. This thread in general is really silly, SC2 isn't dead. Is it as popular e-sport wise as 5 years ago? No, but it still has a scene and is doing fine. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 28 2016 04:38 SC2Towelie wrote: This "dead game" shit is honestly getting ridiculous... and we haven't even gotten to the WCS announcement yet. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On November 28 2016 04:38 SC2Towelie wrote: This "dead game" shit is honestly getting ridiculous... When when pro players start saying that the pro scene is dying that's not really a good sign. | ||
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BalanceEnforcer
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On November 28 2016 04:08 Ppjack wrote: Decline is not synonym to death. The only thing that is dead for sure is the career of firecake Couldn't agree more | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
On November 28 2016 05:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's honestly had a direct negative influence on the game. Who's gonna sponsor a game when the first thing anyone says when it's brought up is "lol ded game" I don't think the dead game comments are appropriate (nor is this thread in my opinion), and I don't make those comments. But I don't think they had any influence. Sponsors are smart enough to look at the viewership, which has been in steady decline, long before we got dead game comments. Would you want to sponsor something with declining viewership regardless of negativity on a forum? I think a good measure of the health of SC2 is the strategy forum. It used to be booming, with lots people posting strats and looking for help. Now it is nearly dead. Starcraft is declining because of game design decisions. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
. The level of whining has evolved! | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On November 28 2016 05:09 Poopi wrote: If I understand correctly he is talking about the esport death of sc2, not the death of sc2, which would translate into empty ladder and stuff like that (and that isn't the case in 1v1). Since there are real signs and consequences of decline/death (end of proleague, new WCS induced retirements, star players retirement, teams disbanding) there is actually something to talk about right now. I didn't watch the video but I'm pretty sure it isn't about daed game memes, it's probably thoughtful. I don't think he is that stupid to not realize that this title alone is carrying these fucking memes spread by braindead people. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 28 2016 05:44 BronzeKnee wrote: I don't think the dead game comments are appropriate (nor is this thread in my opinion), and I don't make those comments. But I don't think they had any influence. Sponsors are smart enough to look at the viewership, which has been in steady decline, long before we got dead game comments. Starcraft is declining because of game design decisions. Starcraft is declining because of many, many reasons. Game design decisions are likely a big factor though, i agree. "ded geam" comments are stupid, but at the same time people who ignore the bad things which are happening aren't helping either. Having an open conversation about it is way more constructive and big community figures should do that in some way or form. I mean i think these overly negative comments without any perspective "ded gaem", etc have an impact on people who maybe would join the scene otherwise. New players who aren't sure, if you look at the sc2 subreddit there sometimes are posts of people who ask if it is still worth it because they can read anywhere (lol reddit, csgo reddit, etc) that sc2 is a "dead game". Ofc it impacts the scene a bit. I wouldn't say that it's a huge factor though. I didn't watch the video though, not interested to watch a french video when the person is european and could have done an english video instead. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On November 28 2016 03:31 Nakajin wrote: It's one of the biggest best selling pc game of the last decade, and got a huge following for many year with still tens of thousand of people playing it. I think it's fair to say it is a good game. There was a statistic from Blizzard around 2011 that said less than half of the people who purchased the game touched any of its multiplayer features. Just saying. Many people used to buy Blizzard games for the SP alone regardless of how balanced or well designed the MP was. I say used to because they haven't released many games with SP content lately, but yeah. | ||
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