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HSC XIV - Days 1 to 3 - TL Writers right for once

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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-20 17:10:52
November 20 2016 06:05 GMT
#1
After three swift days, HSC has concluded its two group stage rounds.

Days 1 & 2 - Is this 2013?

Days 1and 2 progressed as expected, with Korea ruling the roost and progressing by a combined scoreline of 50-13. Six Koreans progressed in first place, while (Z)Rogue lost out to (T)aLive in Group A. (P)Patience was the sole Korean representative beaten by a foreigner all day long, after an impressive showing from (P)PtitDrogo.

Particularly impressive were the trio of players who progressed 6-0 out of their groups; (Z)Solar (over (T)DeMusliM and (Z)SortOf), (P)sOs (over (Z)Bly and (Z)TLO), and (Z)Snute (over (T)HeRoMaRinE and (P)Neeb).

That's not to say that everything went the favourites' ways though. (T)TY looked incredibly shaky early on, dropping a macro game on KSS to (Z)HateMe and two to an ascendant (Z)Namshar, while (Z)Elazer gave signs that his semifinal appearance at BlizzCon was no fluke in a tight 2-3 loss to (P)Zest.

One of the final stories of the day came in Group G, where technical difficulties and mech combined to push the schedule late into the evening. Cheers of "(Z)TLO (Z)TLO (Z)TLO" erupted as the Liquid zerg triumphed 3-2 over (T)MarineLorD, but a swift 0-3 shutout from (P)sOs brought him quickly back for the rematch. This time, it was the Millennium terran who took the series 3-2, securing his spot for Day 2.

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Snute getting into the mood



Day 3 - Sporadic upsets as favourites roll on

Once more, Korea reigned supreme in Krefeld on Day 3. This time, the damage was a hefty 30-5 win/loss record for Korea against the world, but while that might point to a hefty advantage, the truth is a little more nuanced. (P)PtitDrogo gave a good account of himself against (T)aLive, while (T)uThermal's 2-3 loss against a shaky (P)Zest was one of the closest series of the day. Still though, it's hard to look past all the other sweeps. (Z)Solar in particular looks in the kind of form we expected a few weeks back at BlizzCon, while (P)sOs has menacingly drifted into the playoffs with ease. To top it all, (T)aLive has been the star of the show so far (literally in the case of his spectacular pajama bottoms), and has illuminated the crowd with his stylistic brand of standard terran play.

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"And this is where I protoss you"


Your playoffs bracket for Day 4 will be:


Predictions:

Solar beating sOs in the Finals.

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Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
November 20 2016 07:17 GMT
#2
I think Solar will take this,
Denjor1elf
Profile Joined September 2016
5 Posts
November 20 2016 08:14 GMT
#3
aLive the last hope ^^
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 20 2016 08:43 GMT
#4
Foreigners have caught up!
Foreigners have caught up!
Foreigners have caught up!
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
November 20 2016 09:05 GMT
#5
I find it oddly satisfying to see all these wannabe foreigners get dominated
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
November 20 2016 09:29 GMT
#6
How nice hsc proofed the never ending domination of Koreans, or at least for some fans.

I personally think, if you'd hid the names most people wouldn't have seen who was Korean and who was not
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 20 2016 09:40 GMT
#7
On November 20 2016 18:29 Corvuuss wrote:
How nice hsc proofed the never ending domination of Koreans, or at least for some fans.

I personally think, if you'd hid the names most people wouldn't have seen who was Korean and who was not


If you'd hid the names during TY vs Zest I would have assumed it was HuK vs Xenocider or something.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 20 2016 09:45 GMT
#8
On November 20 2016 18:29 Corvuuss wrote:
How nice hsc proofed the never ending domination of Koreans, or at least for some fans.

I personally think, if you'd hid the names most people wouldn't have seen who was Korean and who was not

The winners are koreans, the losers foreigners.
Don't need to see the names to know that.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary487 Posts
November 20 2016 10:12 GMT
#9
I hope we won't get 4 toss in top4. That would be ultra boring. But quite high chance we get that Hope Rogue and/or Solar will prevent that.
Why so serious?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
November 20 2016 10:14 GMT
#10
Full title: "TL writers right for once - Apocalypse next week"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Haukinger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany131 Posts
November 20 2016 11:05 GMT
#11
So, Naruto, tell me again why it's fun or exciting to have Koreans at HSC? No surprise, there's no sponsors around anymore, if it's just "a baby-GSL-group plus beating up Europeans"...
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
November 20 2016 11:19 GMT
#12
If TY beat Zest in group stage, he would have yet again do the only TvT of the final brackets.

And quite happy with SortOf performances, he showed some guuuud games!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 20 2016 11:20 GMT
#13
On November 20 2016 20:05 Haukinger wrote:
So, Naruto, tell me again why it's fun or exciting to have Koreans at HSC? No surprise, there's no sponsors around anymore, if it's just "a baby-GSL-group plus beating up Europeans"...


You realize that the community literally paid for these Koreans to go to HSC? You really can't speak for everyone if you don't enjoy them being there, a lot of people very apparently do.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
November 20 2016 11:21 GMT
#14
On November 20 2016 18:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2016 18:29 Corvuuss wrote:
How nice hsc proofed the never ending domination of Koreans, or at least for some fans.

I personally think, if you'd hid the names most people wouldn't have seen who was Korean and who was not

The winners are koreans, the losers foreigners.
Don't need to see the names to know that.


Yes see if it was PtitDrogo vs Patience, you'd be wrong
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
Dungeontay
Profile Joined December 2015
126 Posts
November 20 2016 11:28 GMT
#15
"Foreigners caught up", i nearly shat my pants there.

So we are back to 2012/13 basically, where foreigners didnt have the slightest chance vs koreans. Also its funny how a lot of koreans had quiet a lot of unspent ressources during their games but still just ran over those foreigners. but thats no surprise, if you have to watch foreign players, whos units hit 20 seconds later or just chill on the map for a minute, without achieving anything. Reddit posts about a scripted scene dont even seem that stupid to me anymore. but then again, its fucking reddit
Zzz
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 20 2016 11:46 GMT
#16
On November 20 2016 20:05 Haukinger wrote:
So, Naruto, tell me again why it's fun or exciting to have Koreans at HSC? No surprise, there's no sponsors around anymore, if it's just "a baby-GSL-group plus beating up Europeans"...


If you ever visit Korea, you will understand how awesome is to see Koreans playing live. There is a solid reason why they are fan favorites.
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 20 2016 12:05 GMT
#17
It's all Nerchio's fault.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 20 2016 12:08 GMT
#18
On November 20 2016 20:21 Corvuuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2016 18:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 20 2016 18:29 Corvuuss wrote:
How nice hsc proofed the never ending domination of Koreans, or at least for some fans.

I personally think, if you'd hid the names most people wouldn't have seen who was Korean and who was not

The winners are koreans, the losers foreigners.
Don't need to see the names to know that.


Yes see if it was PtitDrogo vs Patience, you'd be wrong

Uh one of 20 or so series i get wrong.
How terrible
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-20 12:09:32
November 20 2016 12:09 GMT
#19
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
Haukinger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany131 Posts
November 20 2016 12:10 GMT
#20
On November 20 2016 20:20 Olli wrote:
You realize that the community literally paid for these Koreans to go to HSC? You really can't speak for everyone if you don't enjoy them being there, a lot of people very apparently do.


You know, when the "you-have-to-pay-for-koreans-if-you-want-them-at-hsc" action started on the taketv stream, I asked Naruto how to donate against the Koreans, and promised the then-asked $5000, if they didn't bring any Korean. And Naruto answered, literally, we don't want the money, we want the Koreans, because everyone likes them and it's so good for business and such. And now they say they don't get sponsors anymore, even though they can show Koreans playing all day long...
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