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SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband - Pag…

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Regardless of the situation, we will still action upon "dead game" comments. As this is a sensitive issue for SC2 fans, please do not come into this thread and talk about SC2 players switching over to BW. This thread is also not about bashing Blizzard, David Kim, or the WCS system.
Matte3D
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden26 Posts
October 18 2016 08:57 GMT
#441
NOOOOOO, Don't think I will be able to work anymore this day. (Paralyzed) :'(
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
October 18 2016 08:57 GMT
#442
On October 18 2016 17:56 Destructicon wrote:
My heart is filled with a strange mix of sadness for the situation and bitterness at the thought that, through smarter choices, all this could have been avoided...

Time to bring out the time machine and fix everything.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
October 18 2016 09:05 GMT
#443
OMG for a moment seing Flash and the word proleague I thought he d made a comeback. But little did I know
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
October 18 2016 09:06 GMT
#444
On October 18 2016 17:35 kasumimi wrote:
You'd have to be delusional to not see this coming. The foundations Browder and Kim placed were not meant to be the pillars of a long lasting esport. If it wasn't for the passionate and loving community the game would have vanished long ago.

This is the beginning of the end that so many have been warning since 2010.


Unfortunately it is not in Blizzards corporate interest to keep a game like SC2 popular (server costs continue after the revenue from the sales of the game are gone).

I was one of the "pessimists" considering SC2 to be handled incorrectly, but to be honest I always hoped Id be wrong (SC2 is not a bad game, even If I dont like it as much as broodwar).

I watched a lot of sc2 streams and enjoyed many of them so I am sad on about this.

aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
October 18 2016 09:07 GMT
#445
Say What? How & Why did/could this happen??? I bet something big is coming to Blizzcon i think a Announcement for next year and the future of Starcraft2.

Still a sad Day i have tears in my eyes
Goin back to Cali
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
October 18 2016 09:08 GMT
#446
never even watched a single game of SC2 proleague but damn, I never missed a single go/cj proleague match all throughout the bw era. Thanks for the memories Proleague!
fromis_9 enjoyer
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
October 18 2016 09:09 GMT
#447
Rly?? Will i have to watch LoL now ??
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 09:14:42
October 18 2016 09:14 GMT
#448
If it has to happen, then so be it. SC2 is the only esport I've ever watched, and my sole focus being Korean SC2 for about the last 3 years. With Proleague being my absolute favorite, I turned into an early riser, so I could see a few games live before going to work. I've got more great memories than I can even remember. Looks like a melancholic early 30th birthday present, but I guess I'm a real old fucker now without my "14 year old Asians playing video games" as my fiance calls it.

Anyway, thanks for letting Jin Air be the final Proleague champions, that was cool.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
October 18 2016 09:15 GMT
#449
Very sad, region lock accelerated it, but wasn't the reason. I think for Korea especially the biggest reason was the removal of LAN play and I think this is the single biggest mistake Blizzard did with SC2. Other things played their part as well but I think with LAN options we would have a proleague in 2017.

To explain a bit further: With LAN young players, especially in countries in which the box prices are too expensive for most 12 year olds, have the opportunity to play the game without having to invest a lot of money first. With LAN they can play with their friends and start out with custom maps and move on once they improve. They have a community in the internet cafes (still very popular in Korea and China) and are right away embedded, they face people they know and not some barcode on ladder.

With the current model of only online and with two expensive expansions that foundation was removed. The success of Overwatch in Korea contradicts this point to some extent to be fair, but I think in order to get through the pain of mastering a RTS game it would have helped tremendously. SC2 lacked young blood for some years now.
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
October 18 2016 09:19 GMT
#450
oh wow! this is really sad.

i feel bad for the players, coaches, and all the people behind SPL. what's next for them?
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
October 18 2016 09:21 GMT
#451
This is really not unexpected, but still you never want to believe it to be true before it actually happens. I guess that explain the decline in level in Korea during the last few months, players from these disbanding teams must be planing their retirement.

On a "positive" note, foreigners player found the way to be competitive against Korean. :p
Deleted User 329278
Profile Joined March 2014
123 Posts
October 18 2016 09:22 GMT
#452
wtf why!!??!?! now that the game is getting better and better (imo) and i know basically every korean player and every caster and got so deep with the korean sc2 scene, whyyyyyyyyyy

and serioiusly what about the players, do they have a future? do they get support, can they somehow continue?

and why is it that just so few people see that sc2 is WAY better and more fun to watch than all the other games?

you don't know what you have until you lose it
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands683 Posts
October 18 2016 09:25 GMT
#453
Neeb! Why did you have to win KeSPA Cup!? Look at what you've done!
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13010 Posts
October 18 2016 09:25 GMT
#454
On October 18 2016 16:46 effecto wrote:
Actually I think the future of SC2 is bright. Blizzard adding a lot of features and changing the balance/gameplay is great.

No more SPL, but 200k for the Blizzcon winner and 200k for the winner of WESG... hard to say sc2 is dead haha

If there is no Korean sc2 it'll be dead.
WriterMaru
Deleted User 329278
Profile Joined March 2014
123 Posts
October 18 2016 09:25 GMT
#455
On October 18 2016 18:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
If it has to happen, then so be it. SC2 is the only esport I've ever watched, and my sole focus being Korean SC2 for about the last 3 years. With Proleague being my absolute favorite, I turned into an early riser, so I could see a few games live before going to work. I've got more great memories than I can even remember. Looks like a melancholic early 30th birthday present, but I guess I'm a real old fucker now without my "14 year old Asians playing video games" as my fiance calls it.

Anyway, thanks for letting Jin Air be the final Proleague champions, that was cool.



haha roughly same age here and i feel you - sc2 proleague was the only esport and "league" thing i've ever watched, while everyone else watches football or maybe counterstrike
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
October 18 2016 09:26 GMT
#456
As sad and shatter as I am right now. This will at least teach me a lesson I will remember for life.
If you fucking want to do something do it and do not postponed. I will most likely never watch korean starcraft live
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
October 18 2016 09:28 GMT
#457
Pretty sad to hear this, but theres not much to be done about it.
I hope all the staff/players and others involved will be ok.

Jin Air Greenwings; fucking ballers.
Caster man does casting on yt/RiquizCasts
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 18 2016 09:31 GMT
#458
On October 18 2016 17:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
"The Korean scene is healthy as fuck!"

- Shaun "Apollo" Clark

Don't worry guys this is fine.


Stop quoting him already, it makes me mad everytime I read it >.<

Dear Apollo seriously, it's understandable that you want to benefit the scene that feeds you and/or that you like most. But lying to all the fans that way with that ridiculous essay and even get offended when you get called out... What a #$%&#/"$$!#.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 18 2016 09:33 GMT
#459
Thank you to all of those teams that made us dream.

- Thank you to SK TELECOM T1 to have made history in the progamming world by supporting and thus giving us players like Boxer and thank you for supporting the Starcraft 2 proleague while it lasted.
- Thank you to KT Rolster to have been the best team that ever existed, with players that we will never forget even if they switch to anything else. Thank you for all the rivalries, and those finals we still cherish.
- Thank you to Samsung to have maintained the level with the powerhouses.
- Thank you to CJ for their fantastic players as well, having the first best player in the world, the first vilain and even surviving with that.

SC2 might not be dead but it will never be the same. I hope all those players will keep going, or find something that suit them if they can't stay in SC2 or even in the e-Sport scene.

Good Bye Telecom powerhouses. Good bye Proleague.

Hope we'll see you again.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 09:35:40
October 18 2016 09:35 GMT
#460
On October 18 2016 18:31 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 17:11 Elentos wrote:
"The Korean scene is healthy as fuck!"

- Shaun "Apollo" Clark

Don't worry guys this is fine.


Stop quoting him already, it makes me mad everytime I read it >.<

But it gets more relevant each time I have a reason to quote it.
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