• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:46
CEST 19:46
KST 02:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Tulbo's ASL S21 Ro8 Post-Review Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? Do we have a pimpest plays list? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1903 users

Monetary conflict between Invasion, Choya, Legend - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
302 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 16 Next All
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
August 01 2016 19:03 GMT
#121
As far as I'm concerned I don't see anyway DeMuslim is involved in this, so I'm going to take his opinion as a grain of salt
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 01 2016 19:03 GMT
#122
On August 02 2016 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 04:02 Ctone23 wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
DeMuslim jumped on the hate choya train real quick lmao.

yeah it's confusing why he jumped all over this?


Choya probably proxied him in a ladder game or something


Hey don't steal my thunder, lol
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
August 01 2016 19:03 GMT
#123
Follow me @teamliquid.net lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 01 2016 19:04 GMT
#124
On August 02 2016 04:03 NinjaToss wrote:
As far as I'm concerned I don't see anyway DeMuslim is involved in this, so I'm going to take his opinion as a grain of salt

he and that guy are related, or secretly lovers and he's just protecting his "bae"
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
August 01 2016 19:05 GMT
#125
On August 02 2016 04:04 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 04:03 NinjaToss wrote:
As far as I'm concerned I don't see anyway DeMuslim is involved in this, so I'm going to take his opinion as a grain of salt

he and that guy are related, or secretly lovers and he's just protecting his "bae"

ah that make perfect sense now

Can you write a fanfic to prove your point tho?
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 01 2016 19:06 GMT
#126
On August 02 2016 04:05 NinjaToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 04:04 LongShot27 wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:03 NinjaToss wrote:
As far as I'm concerned I don't see anyway DeMuslim is involved in this, so I'm going to take his opinion as a grain of salt

he and that guy are related, or secretly lovers and he's just protecting his "bae"

ah that make perfect sense now

Can you write a fanfic to prove your point tho?


why write fanfic if it's true?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
August 01 2016 19:07 GMT
#127
Tho I`m on Choya`s side (as it seems more plausible), still he needs to do things more neatly - he should stop whining on SNS.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 01 2016 19:08 GMT
#128
On August 02 2016 04:07 Thouhastmail wrote:
Tho I`m on Choya`s side (as it seems more plausible), still he needs to do things more neatly - he should stop whining on SNS.


dont be hatin' on entertainment
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 01 2016 19:11 GMT
#129
On August 02 2016 04:07 Thouhastmail wrote:
Tho I`m on Choya`s side (as it seems more plausible), still he needs to do things more neatly - he should stop whining on SNS.

Well he did try to solve it privately for quite a while from his skype convos. That didn't work out very well for him now did it?

Going public about things makes the other party very quick to respond and try to resolve the situation. If you're ever stuck in a shitty customer support, go complain on their facebook feed and you will see how much faster they respond and try to treat you well. It's really stupid that it has to be this way but it's just the way it is. Bad publicity hurts a lot.

If Choya jumped the gun going public instantly I would have agreed with you, but he tried to do it in private first for quite a while.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
August 01 2016 19:12 GMT
#130
To summarize.

Choya has time stamped conversations, Sebou/AngryDemu have a suspiciously photoshopped looking 'conversation' with no time stamps or anything.

Choya has Legend on his side and evidence of previously shady shit, Sebou has a washed out ladder rage guy backing him up.

Hmmm tough call on who to believe in this one boys...
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 19:16:05
August 01 2016 19:13 GMT
#131
He already tried for an year, he isnt gonna get paid. He probably did this out of a last attempt, though incidentally this warns anyone who was thinking of teaming with invasion.
Moderator
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 01 2016 19:21 GMT
#132
On August 02 2016 04:12 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
To summarize.

Choya has time stamped conversations, Sebou/AngryDemu have a suspiciously photoshopped looking 'conversation' with no time stamps or anything.

Choya has Legend on his side and evidence of previously shady shit, Sebou has a washed out ladder rage guy backing him up.

Hmmm tough call on who to believe in this one boys...


Hey man it has a picture of the MVP logo, it MUST be legit
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
August 01 2016 19:25 GMT
#133
No info in liquipedia about Sebou. I'm just gonna believe 100 % whatever you guys write here.
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 01 2016 19:25 GMT
#134
From demuslim:
Honestly, Choya is involved in so much scandal and running to twitter that I don't believe a word that comes out of that boys mouth. I'm willing to bet there's a very reasonable explanation, very few people I trust less in the Korean sc2 scene than him.


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/4vklyy/gumiho_owed_over_5000_from_invasion_esports/d5zj955

Yes, going to twitter after 1 year has passed. Shows the kind of character demuslim is for knighting a conman.
rip passion
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
August 01 2016 19:27 GMT
#135
Is demuslim still a player? Thought he moved on and got a real job.
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
August 01 2016 19:30 GMT
#136
I don't get the bash on Demu. He done something ?
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
August 01 2016 19:30 GMT
#137
Some things are clear from these tweets.
King_Sebou admits he owes some money to Choy/Gumiho, not clear amount but probably in the range of 3-4 thousand $, but dodges payment with very silly unprofessional excuses - eventually leading to this drama. Now making further excuses to dodge payment.
Invasion Esports uses a non-profit scheme not to pay taxes on its income, which is fine - but does not realize (or misleads players that they do not have to pay taxes) that payments to players are taxed - in this case in France.
Money taken from Invasion Esports by Sebou should be taxed at a 20-30% tax rate, same as any payouts to players (unless there is any deduction for foreign e-sports players - which I most certainly doubt). I wonder if any taxes were actually paid.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
August 01 2016 19:31 GMT
#138
On August 02 2016 04:25 Deathstar wrote:
From demuslim:
Show nested quote +
Honestly, Choya is involved in so much scandal and running to twitter that I don't believe a word that comes out of that boys mouth. I'm willing to bet there's a very reasonable explanation, very few people I trust less in the Korean sc2 scene than him.


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/4vklyy/gumiho_owed_over_5000_from_invasion_esports/d5zj955

Yes, going to twitter after 1 year has passed. Shows the kind of character demuslim is for knighting a conman.

Hang on, where's this scandals demuslim is talking about? We could have spin off drama!

..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 01 2016 19:31 GMT
#139
On August 02 2016 04:30 Koivusto wrote:
I don't get the bash on Demu. He done something ?


he does stuff like this to stir up shit, he's just a generally assholeish person
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
August 01 2016 19:34 GMT
#140
This is getting really juicy! I love SC2 dramas.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#115
Fjant vs Bly
Serral vs Shameless
RotterdaM1566
TKL 175
IndyStarCraft 140
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1566
TKL 175
IndyStarCraft 140
BRAT_OK 84
CosmosSc2 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24781
Bisu 2561
EffOrt 1109
ggaemo 515
Larva 442
Stork 371
Soulkey 252
Rush 243
ZerO 224
actioN 213
[ Show more ]
firebathero 182
Hyuk 152
hero 134
Dewaltoss 98
Barracks 97
sorry 66
Sharp 56
Hyun 54
Sea.KH 38
Pusan 34
HiyA 27
soO 23
Liquid`Ret 22
Rock 18
Shine 12
Terrorterran 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7928
monkeys_forever388
XaKoH 285
Counter-Strike
fl0m1609
byalli644
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK10
Liquid`Hasu7
Other Games
FrodaN2216
Liquid`RaSZi1143
qojqva1125
ceh9498
B2W.Neo487
KnowMe189
ArmadaUGS130
QueenE101
C9.Mang098
UpATreeSC68
Trikslyr56
Mew2King47
ZerO(Twitch)18
gofns0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2462
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 25
• FirePhoenix8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota266
League of Legends
• imaqtpie638
Other Games
• Shiphtur305
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 14m
The PiG Daily
5h 14m
Maru vs Rogue
TBD vs Classic
herO vs Solar
ByuN vs Solar
Replay Cast
6h 14m
CranKy Ducklings
16h 14m
RSL Revival
16h 14m
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
17h 14m
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
SC Evo League
19h 14m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
21h 14m
BSL
1d 1h
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
1d 6h
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
1d 17h
BSL
2 days
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.