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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
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Last Edited: 2016-07-23 22:46:08
July 23 2016 22:45 GMT
#61
On July 23 2016 17:09 Elentos wrote:
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On July 23 2016 09:22 DomeGetta wrote:
Seems to me that the 2 base stim drop build is very strong and hard to hold - but that Rogue seemed to figure out how to stop it - looks to me like Z is going to be taking the favor going forward (when code A is played again for next season to even the distribution).

A lot of the TvZ's in the Maru/TaeJa group went long enough for the Zerg to get hive tech, attributing all those wins just to the drop build seems like a very shallow analysis. TvZ is 16-11 in Code S after the patch, not 14-11. And 2+2+1 is not 6.

And no, aLive did not 2-base all-in on Frozen Temple.


Thanks for catching my typo. You didn't elaborate on his win though - did the zerg get to a maxed hive tech army? I would very much doubt it.

All you've said is "a lot of Tvz's went long enough to get to hive tech" which wasn't the point - the point was to site a game where zerg got to hive tech on a sufficient economy to support sustaining a hive tech army and then lost the game without throwing away their entire army. I won't hold my breath.

16-11 - so if Byul 2-0's speed its 16-13 - with literally 1 example of a game that went max vs max late game that a Terran won (where the zerg did, in fact, throw away their army) - Broken Game?

I would say we are on our way a lot closer to seeing a broken game but not in the perspective of the zerg - give me back wol no micro necessary - whine way.

Let's see how it plays out! Thanks again tho for the edit.
Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
July 24 2016 01:04 GMT
#62
Zerg is a garbage race - Dream 2016
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baabaa
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada29 Posts
July 25 2016 03:49 GMT
#63
If zergs got shut out of Ro16 for a whole year, Blizzard would say "looks like maybe we should consider a minor buff to zerg some decade in the future". Ignoring the gaping problems that everyone knows are there won't make them go away, Blizzard. Pretending that insignificant minor changes are all that is necessary doesn't fool anyone. LOTV buffed the harass options MOSTLY for Terran and Protoss. Zerg nydus play that relies on the invincibility of the nydus in any early part of the game is still an all in. So where are you Blizzard on treating liberators and widow mines like swarmhosts and nerfing them out of the game? no? course not, that would be FAIR. make widow mines have a 1 minute cooldown and make liberators take double the time to switch modes. those kinds of changes, are far less than what was done to swarmhosts but Blizzard will NEVER do things like this to Terran, only to Zerg. this is why I stopped playing LOTV.
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
July 27 2016 09:53 GMT
#64
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TL really screwed up on this one
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
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