EPTAnd I understand the human element of "he's just a kid," and "it's a heavy price to pay for someone who probably can't do anything else," but at some level or another, he broke the law and should be punished as a criminal for it. What impact this has on the rest of his life, I don't actually know. What are all the other matchfixers doing these days?
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
And I understand the human element of "he's just a kid," and "it's a heavy price to pay for someone who probably can't do anything else," but at some level or another, he broke the law and should be punished as a criminal for it. What impact this has on the rest of his life, I don't actually know. What are all the other matchfixers doing these days? | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2633 Posts
This pun has been beaten to death already. > > | ||
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xtorn
4060 Posts
you were my absolute favorite Lifu. | ||
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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RichardNPL
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:41 looken wrote: yeah, i mean why would your life be hurt by this right? its just an 18 months prison sentence and a gigantic fine. who does not have 61000$ lying around and what potential boss cares about you being sentenced to prison? wake up, the kid is fucked for life. wake up he committed a legit crime, so its kinda hard to sympathize with him. Its not because he intentionally lost at video games, its because he took money from organized crime to fix a major gambling event. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 15 2016 23:16 ndesktop wrote: I don't think so. After all, as I said, it's one mistake. It's not as if he was some criminal mastermind running a ring of corrupt players, as Savior did. I understood he had a gambling problem, got into red, and this is what these sharks are waiting for. He played Starcraft his entire teenage life, he slipped up, got sentenced and banned. But for life? How about, for example, Calciopoli? Half of Italian football teams were into it, or involved one way or the other. I don't see Juventus Torino disbanded and excluded for life for playing in Serie A. Got relegated, players left, fined, some managers jailed if I remember well. They fought back in Serie B, got back, learned their lessons. I would have banned Life 18-24 months, heavy fine, stripped all his titles. Wanna go back? Endure the ban, no money, but we'll give you another chance to make it right. Not so with KeSPA, which is directly excluding for life anyone involved in matchfixing. I remember yet again the Savior thing. Was Hwasin guilty on the same level as Savior? For Christ's sake, the poor kid did not even understood what he got involved in. Yet his life was ruined, covered with shame, practically being a ghost for years. Nobody deserves this except the guys scheming that. I, somehow, wonder if Life was the criminal mastermind here. No, he wasn't the mastermind. And this is what I'm trying to say. Life was taken in by a team when he was 12. He practically wasn't in middle school when he joined a team. That means most of his adolescent and childhood upbringing was with a Korean team. As a result, it's THEIR responsibility to make sure he grows up to be a capable adult. I do think he was lucky with Startale as they're known to be one of the more "family-like" teams, but it's pretty well known that teams grind the last worth out of their members for wins/results. So Life definitely wouldn't have had a proper and caring upbringing. So to me there's little doubt that Life would have been easily manipulated by others and believe what others told him. After all, that's how he's trained to think by teams. Moreover, it should be the team's responsibility to grind an anti-matchmaking fundamental into their players at the very least but it's clear they didn't. To me, there's no doubt that Life made the decision to matchfix which is why he should be punished. But most of the responsibility actually falls on the matchfixer and in fact, on the system that raised him. | ||
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GreyBrid
31 Posts
On July 14 2016 13:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote: What were the grounds of his appeal? I think his lawyer said "it's a fricken video game. who the heck cares?" | ||
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TelecoM
United States10700 Posts
He was too young, just a boy | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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necrosexy
451 Posts
On July 16 2016 14:38 showstealer1829 wrote: I personally think it doesn't go far enough, he doesn't deserve mention in the SC2 community any more. If I had my way I'd have a filter to change Life to Who? micro-triggered | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
So sad that Life destroyed his reputation. So many great story lines came to a sad end. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
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swissman777
1106 Posts
On July 17 2016 10:55 MaCRo.gg wrote: Going into eSports thinking it will be a career path is the real problem here. The minimum age to play professionally should be 19 (Korean age). Scholar-athlete programs has its problems in football and basketball but for the majority of the collegiate programs, it builds a good educational base for athletes to fall back to. Something similar where players are forced to explore some sort of secondary education before going professional is needed in Korea. Though to be fair, you're not going to get a decent education if you're putting a lot of your time practicing. Also, on what grounds are you saying this? is there some evidence? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 17 2016 10:55 MaCRo.gg wrote: Going into eSports thinking it will be a career path is the real problem here. The minimum age to play professionally should be 19 (Korean age). Scholar-athlete programs has its problems in football and basketball but for the majority of the collegiate programs, it builds a good educational base for athletes to fall back to. Something similar where players are forced to explore some sort of secondary education before going professional is needed in Korea. And that's why it's a manipulation of children who think they can actually have earnings as a progamer and are told they're good and have potential. Then they chase their "dreams" only to realize it was foolish when they grow older and have nothing on their hands. In the same vein of manipulation, Life's upbringing was at the hands of a team, and they obviously wouldn't be teaching him how to become a model citizen or focusing on issues like matchfixing. Instead it's all about grinding their players to mine them out for sponsorships and money. | ||
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CptMarvel
France236 Posts
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aeligos
United States172 Posts
Criminals here live a life of luxury. Look at Billary for example. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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