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MVP Horror moves to coach / Seed moves to player

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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-19 09:00:43
May 18 2016 08:11 GMT
#1
So it looks like SEED and Horror are moving to the new positions!

(Z)horror from player to coach and (P)Seed from playercoach to player!

Post about Horror from Choya in KR (If anyone can translate please do! Thank you in advance)

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Translation: (thanks Dragonicfire)

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Horror has retired from a StarCraft II progamer. During the year and a half he was on the team I am very thankful that he worked very hard. Going forward starting from round 3, he will become a coach. Please cheer for horror as he starts this new path.


Choya's english respond:

Link

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Source is from NoRegreT who is living in MVP house atm
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
May 18 2016 08:16 GMT
#2
Awesome! Thanks NoRegreT!
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 18 2016 08:20 GMT
#3
Did you mean the opposite? Seed is becoming full time player and stopping being playing coach? :-)
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
May 18 2016 08:31 GMT
#4
I think Seed now is only player, not coach anymore
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[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1214 Posts
May 18 2016 08:38 GMT
#5
Yeah, there is a mistake in the first post

I actually like this change. Let's see what Seed can do :D
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
May 18 2016 09:08 GMT
#6
On May 18 2016 17:31 SuperHofmann wrote:
I think Seed now is only player, not coach anymore


Edited thank you!
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 18 2016 09:08 GMT
#7
On May 18 2016 17:20 Diabolique wrote:
Did you mean the opposite? Seed is becoming full time player and stopping being playing coach? :-)


Yup looks like that's it. More Seed games woo!
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
May 18 2016 09:45 GMT
#8
I can't edit title?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15953 Posts
May 18 2016 09:55 GMT
#9
Now seed has more time to practice his adept allins. Nice
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19234 Posts
May 18 2016 10:40 GMT
#10
On May 18 2016 18:45 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
I can't edit title?

Fixed it for you. PM me if you want something better.
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
May 18 2016 11:26 GMT
#11
On May 18 2016 19:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2016 18:45 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
I can't edit title?

Fixed it for you. PM me if you want something better.


Nonono thank you this one is okay! Thank you so much!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 18 2016 12:04 GMT
#12
This makes sense. Seed is still a reasonable player. Horror was just meh for his entire career.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
May 18 2016 15:13 GMT
#13
Yo seed hype
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Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 14:34:55
May 18 2016 15:20 GMT
#14
Barely got to watch Horror so can't comment on that change. Hopefully he does well in his new leadership role.

Seed seemed to have a noticeably positive effect on MVP in his recent coaching role. I enjoyed seeing how he interacted w/ his teammates after games, and how calm he was in advising them.

Haven't seen him play in awhile, but doubt this changes much for MVP. Since when I saw him in HOTS, he was right around Blaze's current level, except maybe even more unreliable. Would have liked to see them add Patience to bolster their Protoss line, instead of internal changes.

MVP had a fantastic R2 and every reason to be proud. But it seems like they've reached their absolute ceiling in terms of how far a team w/ solid supporting players, but no single star can rise. Obviously they probably won't continue to lose every ace match going forward, but they got pretty lucky in forcing many of them to begin w/, so some expected regression seems likely.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
May 18 2016 18:49 GMT
#15
Seed´s gonna have his breakthrough any moment now!
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
May 19 2016 00:57 GMT
#16
Choya's Korean tweet pretty much just says that but in Korean.

"Horror has retired from a StarCraft II progamer. During the year and a half he was on the team I am very thankful that he worked very hard. Going forward starting from round 3, he will become a coach. Please cheer for horror as he starts this new path."
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 19 2016 07:12 GMT
#17
Brainy builds from Seed incoming! :D
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
May 19 2016 08:59 GMT
#18
On May 19 2016 09:57 Draconicfire wrote:
Choya's Korean tweet pretty much just says that but in Korean.

"Horror has retired from a StarCraft II progamer. During the year and a half he was on the team I am very thankful that he worked very hard. Going forward starting from round 3, he will become a coach. Please cheer for horror as he starts this new path."


Thank you very much for the translation!
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Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-19 09:20:07
May 19 2016 09:19 GMT
#19
Last time I saw Horror play I wasn't that impressed with his play, although the tactic he used was really awesome. So it makes sense that he would try to coach.

And it is nice too see that Seed is going to play again(more). His play was always fun to watch since it was more technical than other protoss players, that are around his skill.
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
May 19 2016 09:46 GMT
#20
Well I'm a bit sad for horror, there was a bit of hype for him returning to progaming after the 2 years stop for military service.

I hope he'll be a good coach!
Vasacast always in my <3
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