2015 in Review - TeamLiquid Awards - Page 4

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stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

April 18 2016 17:49 GMT

#61

On April 19 2016 02:45 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
Has was robbed of most entertaining player

That's what I thought

deacon.frost

Czech Republic12134 Posts

April 18 2016 17:52 GMT

#62

Proxy Wings on the Kong position of the Best team. Fitting

oGoZenob

France1503 Posts

April 18 2016 17:52 GMT

#63

On April 19 2016 01:06 thecrazymunchkin wrote:

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MarineLord was an average foreigner at best in 2015

HOW DARE YOU

deacon.frost

Czech Republic12134 Posts

April 18 2016 17:59 GMT

#64

On April 19 2016 02:15 Silvana wrote:

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Sounds like a technicality. Btw I quote you muahahha because I can :D

That is in other sports too, you are forbidden to bet on yourself/your team. It is based on the fact that you have insider info and you are misusing(is that the proper word?) the betting company.

Nakajin

Canada8991 Posts

April 18 2016 18:00 GMT

#65

On April 19 2016 00:56 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Strategy of the Year
Blink

Runner-up: Mech

Hope Blizzard will read this as well and will make mech better.....
But i'm sure all that hope is in vain.

I know right!? I can't belive they destroyed the strategy of the year!

Starcraft is so boring without having the reassuring certitude that every pvz is going to be awesome and provide amazing hype that only french genius is able to create.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

April 18 2016 18:01 GMT

#66

French genius that was invented in Korea in 2011

SlammerIV

United States526 Posts

April 18 2016 18:11 GMT

#67

Imo life should not have gotten player of the year in the same year he allegedly match fixed, it it just feels wrong.

Also Lilbow 100% deserves the awards he received, people seem to forget his undeniable achievements in the foreign sc2 scene during 2015 simply because of his ONE poor showing at Blizzcon vs Life of all players. Lilbow did fall off the map after Blizzcon but post Blizzcon is all LotV which should not count as much in 2015 awards imo as it is a different game.

ZerglingSoup

United States346 Posts

April 18 2016 18:25 GMT

#68

But who's best Random? Where's the love?

NOT RELATED: They should have one for best cheese

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19398 Posts

April 18 2016 18:33 GMT

#69

On April 19 2016 01:47 thecrazymunchkin wrote:

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On April 19 2016 01:42 OtherWorld wrote:

On April 19 2016 01:28 Kaizor wrote:

On April 19 2016 01:24 OtherWorld wrote:

On April 19 2016 01:03 Kaizor wrote:

On April 19 2016 00:23 Olli wrote:

On April 18 2016 22:25 Kaizor wrote:
No i do not understand TL's stance or agree with it.

True he has not been convicted of anything yet but i think most would agree that by this point, it's highly likely.

And look around, sportsmen that have been caught in various scandals, get their medals stripped, championships revoked, sponsorships withdrawn.

You would never see a sportsmen being awarded anything after they bring the sport into dispute just because "their performances merited it". Organizations get as far away as they can.

So no, TL's stance just does not make sense.

This is absolutely nonsensical and, if anything, points out a huge issue in our society. Condemning people without evidence, even if there is an investigation ongoing, is defamation ot character. That is the case until a verdict is made.

Essentially you base your argument on "what everyone thinks". Guess what, everyone doesn't know shit and their opinion on a case they have zero insight into is 100% irrelevant.

No information about the case has been released, which means as of right now, Life is not guilty. So that's how we're going to treat him for the time being. If he does turn out to be guilty, we may re-evaluate.

Fair enough, if that's how you guys really feel about it. I am not going get into an arguing match about how we define definitive.

But i just want to point out that if any sportsmen is being investigated or being linked to any scandal, even if it is not 100% proven yet, they are not going to be getting any Best Sports Person of the year award.

Not 100% proven as in they have been called in by Prosecutors. Just like Life. If this happens to any sportsmen.

Zero. Chance.

And the way you put it as "may re-evaluate" even if he is found guilty is very disappointing.

So you wouldn't give Messi the Ballon d'Or because he is linked to the Panama papers scandal, for example? Interesting

I should have been clearer. Scandal related to the sports, eg. Match-fixing, performance enhanced drugs.

If Messi had done any of those, or suspected of it, ya i wouldn't give Messi the Ballon d'Or.

With the panama papers, it's a financial scandal and it changes how i look at Messi as a person, not how i look at him as a footballer.

Just like i don't respect John Terry for his alleged affairs, but since that has zero to do with his defending, i still rate him as a good defender.

I understand if we're talking about things that would make him a better performer, like doping or corrupting the opposing team's defenders, but "defensive" matchfixing (i.e. he plays intentionaly bad instead of playing at his full level)? If it doesn't affect his performance in a positive way, then there's no reason to discard these performances because of it. Same reasoning applies with Life : assuming he did lose on purpose, it certainly didn't raise his chances of being named Player of the Year. Thus no reason to be against that.
On that note, I'm surprised the MKP² vs ByuL's creep scandal is not first place in the "Worst Drama" category

Included under the general banner of matchfixing I guess, seeing as that's how everyone was calling it.

On a lighter note, I'm disappointed there aren't complaints about my horrendous pun in KR POTY

No one is surprised by your POTY mouth.

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19398 Posts

April 18 2016 18:37 GMT

#70

On April 19 2016 03:25 ZerglingSoup wrote:
But who's best Random? Where's the love?

NOT RELATED: They should have one for best cheese

GuineaPig will always be best Random.

Kitai

United States886 Posts

April 18 2016 18:41 GMT

#71

On April 19 2016 01:21 Kaizor wrote:

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Well if TL writers want to set standards about definitive, i suggest we wait until he is 100% confirmed awarded the Best Bowler award.

And let's say even if he is indeed awarded the Best Bowler in the future, that's another topic to discuss moral values or performance. Which i don't think is appropriate here.

edit: saw your update on Best XI in a tournament. That's still different from naming him as Best Player of the Year(when he match-fixed) which TL has essentially done with Life.

I'm confused by your logic that we have to wait for an athlete-under-scrutiny in a different sport to be awarded with Player of the Year before TL is allowed to do it.

sc2chronic

United States777 Posts

April 18 2016 18:48 GMT

#72

What a great list. Super well written without being needlessly drawn out and outstanding winner picks.

Gwavajuice

France1810 Posts

April 18 2016 18:54 GMT

#73

On April 19 2016 01:03 Kaizor wrote:

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Ok you're certainly too young to have heard about Maradonna? but to some he's still the best guy to touch a soccer ball ever, even better than Messi, Cruyff or Pele. His life? just a never ending story of coke, alcoholism and napolitan mob. Still, when he was on the field he was the greatest to all who saw him play.

And that's soccer, just the most popular sport in the world.

We could talk about Kobe and his sexual assault case, too. I don't think a lot of people threw stones at him last week when he played his last game in the stapple center?