EPTMajOr disqualified from Copa América 2016 Season 2 - Page 18
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evaunit01
United States512 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
lolol. didnt you guys learn anything from him cheating in broodwar? | ||
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Jealous
10232 Posts
On April 11 2016 15:18 arb wrote: they still let this kid play in pro games? lolol. didnt you guys learn anything from him cheating in broodwar? Everyone wants to hate on Blizzard more than look at the weak excuses he is making lol, typical really. Also a ton of people in this thread outright support him, it's crazy. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7139 Posts
On April 11 2016 15:27 Jealous wrote: Everyone wants to hate on Blizzard more than look at the weak excuses he is making lol, typical really. Also a ton of people in this thread outright support him, it's crazy. :'D | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1086 Posts
But very well. If you have a ladder qualifier, and ppl used to grind ladder all day for practise, but not exactly giving a fuck about the outcome....well what you expect. Sometimes even the Button for "Cancle Que" does not work... | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17004 Posts
On April 10 2016 13:02 BronzeKnee wrote: There is zero, zero accountability at Blizzard. It is an old boys club, stuck in the 90's era where select IT "guru's" ruled over everything and could never be wrong. Problem is, it is 2016, and garbage like "the technology just isn't there yet" fools exactly no one anymore. I wish the cries would get louder from the sponsors, teams and people that matter in the scene, and force Blizzard's hand. It is time to clean house. there is zero accountability because eSports is a money loser. they are donating cash into the scene so they can do anything they want. no indy league will ever rise up because there is no cash in it at all. Unless you think BTTV can seriously put together a legit competitor league to WCS... and i really doubt that. Also, they are not a 90's era group. Their biggest success was WoW from 2005 to 2010 and that success can't happen if they are partying like its 1999. In general SC is a really low priority for Blizzard. We have their bottom of the barrel guys working on this stuff. Their best people are busy making real money in truly lucrative genres.<<hey Overwatch!>> you have 1 thing right about 90s era though....RTS is 90s era.  Since June 2010 the SC franchise accounts for less than 2% of ATVI's total revenue. The SC franchise is not worth their time and people around here are just going to have to swallow that because there is no competition for the SC franchise in teh RTS marketplace. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 11 2016 15:27 Jealous wrote: Everyone wants to hate on Blizzard more than look at the weak excuses he is making lol, typical really. Also a ton of people in this thread outright support him, it's crazy. But these are the same people that probably worship last shadow as a god, and not a cheating hacking egotistical lying piece of shit like he really is some things never change User was warned for this post | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 11 2016 15:27 Jealous wrote: Everyone wants to hate on Blizzard more than look at the weak excuses he is making lol, typical really. Also a ton of people in this thread outright support him, it's crazy. See this is why a few pages back people were saying that what you're mostly doing is attacking Major instead of actually looking for a fair answer. There is more or less still no more evidence about this fiasco, nor is there a PR statement or anything. You aren't here to discuss the merits of Blizzard's decision, you're here to attack major. It makes sense that someone who gets punished for no apparent reason (perhaps there's a reason but so far it's only conjecture) gets support. You're also bringing up old things which are completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. What Major did in Brood War has nothing to do with the current situation and you bringing that up at all is a sign that you lack real substance behind your (personal) attacks on major. Nice of you to discredit yourself like that, we now know that you aren't actually looking to hear about what is true or not, you're looking to personally put down major. Right now especially, it really seems that Major and the other players are more likely victim of Blizzard's poor organization of the ladder qualifier than they are cheaters who tried to exploit the system. Either way, so far what is factually correct is that : - Players are having their reputations (and as such their careers) damaged severely right now. - Lack of PR or more compelling evidence from Blizzard. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17004 Posts
so i might as well post it here. http://amigobulls.com/stocks/ATVI/income-statement/annual $27.5 Billion from 2010 to 2015. Add another $4 billion in 2016 for ATVI while SC makes less than $0.05 Billion and it might even lose money. WoL brought in less than $0.4 Billion. HotS and LotV both less than $0.1 Billion. Nothing big is coming in RTS from Blizzard in 2016. So this is it. | ||
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Powermoo
32 Posts
Sorry Major... sucks they dished out this penalty to you but don't cry wolf when you were the wolf. And i seriously doubt don't they didn't contact or at least attempt to contact him through e-mail. check ALL your e-mails man. All that being said, I also think the vague rules and guidelines didn't help this situation at all either. Blizzard is not without fault. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Second time ? It's one hour ban. Third time ? 1 day ban. 4th time ? (stop ordering pizza seriously) 7 DAY MOTHERFUCKER ! Imagine this system in SC2 ? With a ladder race ? You wouldn't leave a game or queue without thinking. I know it's not the same thing but people shitting on blizzard for this is kind of funny where i even saw post of saying : "Valve would have done better" stuff. For me the only thing that Blizzard done wrong is : "Not contacting the offender directly". That could be for : "Hey you are banned" or "We need explanation" or "You are banned from X tournaments because of suspicion that we need to sort out". But they need to contact the offender. From what i know, even if your account is banned you will be notified by blizzard. So they need to notify players. Maybe the tournaments organizer got word from blizzard and took the decision before Blizzard could contact him but that seems unlikely. I just think Blizzard fucked off somewhere. But only there. Yes, that's their only mistake. (that and banning KR but hey. Their house, their rules.) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20321 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16008 Posts
On April 11 2016 18:17 FFW_Rude wrote: I love how people gets upset for "i can't leave a game ! what if something happens". Well you see... in CS... if you need to get your pizza out of the door; It's 30 minute bans. Second time ? It's one hour ban. Third time ? 1 day ban. 4th time ? (stop ordering pizza seriously) 7 DAY MOTHERFUCKER ! Imagine this system in SC2 ? With a ladder race ? You wouldn't leave a game or queue without thinking. I know it's not the same thing but people shitting on blizzard for this is kind of funny where i even saw post of saying : "Valve would have done better" stuff. For me the only thing that Blizzard done wrong is : "Not contacting the offender directly". That could be for : "Hey you are banned" or "We need explanation" or "You are banned from X tournaments because of suspicion that we need to sort out". But they need to contact the offender. From what i know, even if your account is banned you will be notified by blizzard. So they need to notify players. Maybe the tournaments organizer got word from blizzard and took the decision before Blizzard could contact him but that seems unlikely. I just think Blizzard fucked off somewhere. But only there. Yes, that's their only mistake. (that and banning KR but hey. Their house, their rules.) The difference to CS GO is that there the players KNOW that they will get banned if they leave a game. Major didn't. and there is a difference between being banned for 30 mins (you only get higher bans if you leave multiple games in a certain time period) and being banned permanently from a qualifier and being labeled a matchfixer. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 11 2016 18:20 Cyro wrote: Why do people order pizza and queue anyway? i'd do it. i don't mind leaving a game if something else comes up. better than waiting doing nothing :D in starcraft that is. i don't like lol because you're forced to commit time to a game or face dumb consequences. it's just waste of time in some cases, quite stupid. probably why i'm not playing cs:go either: cba to wait on team mates. 1V1 is where it's at | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20321 Posts
On April 11 2016 18:48 Incognoto wrote: i'd do it. i don't mind leaving a game if something else comes up. better than waiting doing nothing :D in starcraft that is. i don't like lol because you're forced to commit time to a game or face dumb consequences. it's just waste of time in some cases, quite stupid. probably why i'm not playing cs:go either: cba to wait on team mates. 1V1 is where it's at That's one of the biggest problems with large team games IMO | ||
Poopi
France12904 Posts
On April 11 2016 18:17 FFW_Rude wrote: I love how people gets upset for "i can't leave a game ! what if something happens". Well you see... in CS... if you need to get your pizza out of the door; It's 30 minute bans. Second time ? It's one hour ban. Third time ? 1 day ban. 4th time ? (stop ordering pizza seriously) 7 DAY MOTHERFUCKER ! Imagine this system in SC2 ? With a ladder race ? You wouldn't leave a game or queue without thinking. I know it's not the same thing but people shitting on blizzard for this is kind of funny where i even saw post of saying : "Valve would have done better" stuff. For me the only thing that Blizzard done wrong is : "Not contacting the offender directly". That could be for : "Hey you are banned" or "We need explanation" or "You are banned from X tournaments because of suspicion that we need to sort out". But they need to contact the offender. From what i know, even if your account is banned you will be notified by blizzard. So they need to notify players. Maybe the tournaments organizer got word from blizzard and took the decision before Blizzard could contact him but that seems unlikely. I just think Blizzard fucked off somewhere. But only there. Yes, that's their only mistake. (that and banning KR but hey. Their house, their rules.) You realize CS is a team game so if you leave your team probably loses? Whereas in sc2 if you leave your opponent is happy. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 11 2016 18:20 Cyro wrote: Why do people order pizza and queue anyway? Probably because they are hungry and the delivery takes some time | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 11 2016 19:39 deacon.frost wrote: Probably because they are hungry and the delivery takes some time Blizzard trial: Blizzard v Player Plaintiffs seek an injunction against the Defendant whereby the Defendant will leave "the pizza man" at the door until the ladder match has come to terms with a clear victor [to be recorded in the Blizzard ladder]. In the case of non-compliance, Plaintiffs will further seek pecuniary damages for the moral harm done to the community, as well as WCS, by the willful and reckless departure of the player from "the ladder game" by the Defendant. Defendant's counsel, how do you plead? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On April 11 2016 17:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote: someone asked for a source on my "SC franchise made less than 2% of ATVIs revenue" so i might as well post it here. http://amigobulls.com/stocks/ATVI/income-statement/annual $27.5 Billion from 2010 to 2015. Add another $4 billion in 2016 for ATVI while SC makes less than $0.05 Billion and it might even lose money. WoL brought in less than $0.4 Billion. HotS and LotV both less than $0.1 Billion. Nothing big is coming in RTS from Blizzard in 2016. So this is it. Well tbh the game itself isn't so great, the Campaigns besides WoL were bad (although many people disagree here on LotV), and given that Blizzard is trying his best to fuck up - tbh I'm not supporting that company anymore, won't buy Overwatch, I even stopped Heroes. All because I'm so disappointed at what they did with WCBullShit 2016. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Everything else could be wintrading. | ||
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