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I don't trust Major's word on this, his reasoning seems fishy (with the doctor's note and such). That doesn't mean he's guilty, though.
However, what I can say with utmost certainty is that the way Blizzard handled this isn't good. E-mailing some of the accused players and not doing the same for others isn't professional. I'm sure they have some proof behind the ban, as they wouldn't just do it "for the lulz" considering the major (pun intended) negative consequences, and for no gain. Whether the proof is enough to warrant the DQ is another question entirely.
Major admitting that he shared accounts with other progamers is good, because he's honest about it. Though, what worries me is that he considers it to be something that is fine to do. That leads me to believe he may have done something wrong but he genuinely doesn't realize it.
Both Blizzard and Major acted poorly in the situation which makes it difficult to judge who is right and who is wrong, especially with no proof given.
Here is what I'd say would be a good course of action:
1. Blizzard apologizes for their misconduct, and releases the proof for Major's DQ.
2. The community then takes a look and forms an opinion.
3. Major gets the chance to further explain himself in case he is guilty, and if not guilty based on the proof provided, a personal apology from Blizzard and some kind of compensation.
4. If Major's further explanation is sketchy, and the proof is more than incriminating, then he should be banned from participating in WCS events for the rest of 2016 due to attempting to mislead and lie about the situation and the actions taken in the game.
I don't see a better course of action for this. But saying that Major is completely right (or Blizzard) is far too early to state given the situation.
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On April 10 2016 16:42 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +Blizzard should put a big waning message before every ladder game that counts for the qualifications (at least during the last 24 hours). Maybe with a clear agreement that you must accept or else the game won't even start (or won't give any points to players) Saying what, you better try 110% to win this game or else we'll ban you from tournaments and put you on the match fixer list? You can't play ladder this weekend?
I know it is not a perfect solution. I don't like the idea of using the ladder for tournament qualifications too, but if they plan to continue with this, they should at least be clear that you cannot play the ladder the regular way during the qualification process.
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After some thought, i can't see many good ways to go about it aside from having an opt-in ladder available to masters+ players for qualification. Ruining the regular ladder for a while leading into every season isn't good.
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I miss the old WCS with koreans and Apollo, RedEye, ToD and the gang...Good old days. Now I have these threads that might be entertaining past time but not exactly the same. I hope Blizzard pays Major a lot of tacos for compensation if their accusations end up being unjustified.
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oh wait... no my bad, wrong guy just assumed.
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This IS seriously stupid. Imagine, now, every player competing in some higher ranks, will have to shit into his pants if something similar happens to him. Or if he has a phone call. Or a visitor. That is stupid. 6:2 is stupid. 4 hours before the end is stupid. But all this is nothing compared to the lack of communication and checking before making the decision in the FIRST POINT.
"MOM... BATHROOM!.... BATHROOM!!" (Cartman)
^ Blizzard's vision for fair and honest competition
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Hopefully if major is innocent this will clear up and he can attempt the qualifier
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On April 10 2016 19:08 plasma4 wrote:
Hopefully if major is innocent this will clear up and he can attempt the qualifier
which qualifier? LatAM is done yesterday.
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On April 10 2016 19:15 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2016 19:08 plasma4 wrote:
Hopefully if major is innocent this will clear up and he can attempt the qualifier which qualifier? LatAM is done yesterday.
The american server qualifier. Nobody knows if he will be allowed to play there or not.
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Public Ladder selection is insanely stupid to begin with.
I mean if there was any devs on sc2 left they could simply fork GM ladder for the week of competition and filter only people from the region and let them fight on this fork of ladder with clear tournament rules.
This honestly sends an image of starcraft 2 esport as very casual with Blizzard not having enough ressources to organize proper tournament so they use a wonky ladder selection.
Major getting banned from just suspicions is just insane. Blizzard is no better than BT TV in handling stuff like that. That says a lot.
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Blizzard is no better than BT TV in handling stuff like that. That says a lot.
What happened here^? PM plz
could simply fork GM ladder
I said allow opt-in from masters+ because GM still has its flaws
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It's funny how blizzard seems to be so intransigent. I mean when it's cheating or matchfixing in tournaments, sure. When it's abusing a system (ladder) which is already very stupid and abusable, that completly ridiculous.
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I remember that one game in wcg (i think it was) when tasteless wanted to write glhf or something but accidentally pressed f10 qq to quit the game. Leaving one ladder game for some random reason is not enough to disqualify a professional player. To even think that is somewhat justifiable is madness.
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when tasteless wanted to write glhf or something but accidentally pressed f10 qq to quit the game.
... How the hell you accidentally press f10 qq instead of glhf?
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muscle memory ... awww its him I can't win glhf ... wait why did I quit ?!
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On April 10 2016 21:55 FeyFey wrote:
muscle memory ... awww its him I can't win glhf ... wait why did I quit ?!
Yea I have actually done this before LOL except I was deep in thought about what to do/expect while trying to "type"
I can totally imagine Tasteless doing this =D
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On April 10 2016 18:08 heqat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2016 16:42 Cyro wrote:Blizzard should put a big waning message before every ladder game that counts for the qualifications (at least during the last 24 hours). Maybe with a clear agreement that you must accept or else the game won't even start (or won't give any points to players) Saying what, you better try 110% to win this game or else we'll ban you from tournaments and put you on the match fixer list? You can't play ladder this weekend? I know it is not a perfect solution. I don't like the idea of using the ladder for tournament qualifications too, but if they plan to continue with this, they should at least be clear that you cannot play the ladder the regular way during the qualification process.
1 - I think that with this whole series of bans, it's quite clear to every pro gamer now.
2 - If you're not 100% pro and don't happen to be, nothing will ever prevent you from trying hard vs people you don't like and much less harder vs people you like - see Bunny's case. If you're on ladder for fun, you can to do what you want with your games, period.
3 - what is "Players must compete to the best of their ability at all time" (words from rulebook)? just a series of fancy words with no significance in real world. No one is at his maximum capacities at all time, you just get this when it really matters and when the pressure is high and adrenalin flow through your body.
For instance, was Polt at best of capabilities at all times when he lost to neeb and puck yesterday in the qualifier? did he really play like he was on stage for a WCS finals?
All in all, with this system nothing can be really done better than what we saw over the last few days.
The solution is more about rethinking the system, just like Nony did in his blog
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On April 10 2016 22:22 DuckloadBlackra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2016 21:55 FeyFey wrote:
muscle memory ... awww its him I can't win glhf ... wait why did I quit ?! Yea I have actually done this before LOL except I was deep in thought about what to do/expect while trying to "type" I can totally imagine Tasteless doing this =D
Yeah, i once was playing ladder and winning a tight game. He typed gg, so out of muscle memory i answered his gg and promptly pressed f10+n after that. I guess i shouldn't be allowed to ladder anymroe :D
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So Major didnt agree with the others players to fix a result, he only left because for whatever reason he just didnt feel like playing, so only affected his personal score, because overall he clearly took points from these players. I usually agree with hard punishments, but this has to be the most stupid ban that was made in video games history.
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Even if it is one game given that doesn't impact the final result it is still grounds for an organizer to DQ you. Although the broken English is hard to decipher he seems to be taking the stance of being guilty and trying to defend it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since proof regarding this should be fairly easy to provide by the accusing party.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if his and marinelord's accounts are closed for sharing. To publicly state that is utterly moronic, not to mention backing it up with "Everybody is doing it!" logic.
Looks to be a pretty cut-and-dry issue so hopefully it doesn't drag out longer than it needs to.
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