EPTAll subjective of course but I think herO @ 9 and $o$ @ 7 seems a bit far down to me. Nicely written and presented article though, well played on that.
Greatest HotS Players of All Time: Part 2 - Page 2
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Ve5pa
United Kingdom252 Posts
All subjective of course but I think herO @ 9 and $o$ @ 7 seems a bit far down to me. Nicely written and presented article though, well played on that. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Not only that, he's an absolute treat to watch and cheer for. I love that kid! | ||
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Ensiferum8
Canada103 Posts
No amount of justification can justify that ranking. He was superior to Life, Taeja, Maru, Zest. Only Inno was better than him. Lost a lot of respect for stuchiu and his ranking. Will not read the other ones as they might just be even more of a joke. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:18 Ensiferum8 wrote: I wish I had more than 2 hands to facepalm. sOs 7# ? really?! No amount of justification can justify that ranking. He was superior to Life, Taeja, Maru, Zest. Only Inno was better than him. Lost a lot of respect for stuchiu and his ranking. Will not read the other ones as they might just be even more of a joke. Life got to 2 Blizzcon finals and won a bunch more tournaments than sOs, including having better results in Korea. So I'm intrigued as to how sOs is better than Life but INnoVation is better than sOs. | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:14 Shellshock wrote: who are the guys in the banner? I think we have been asking this for a while now. Also at this point I actually predict Zest to be placed ahead of soO considering how many times Zest won against soO and also the sole fact that Zest actually won shit and not get second every single time like soO. Not sure how much Taeja won in HotS but I think he was more impressive in WoL, therefore soO in 5th place, Taeja in 4th place, Zest in 3rd place, INno in 2nd place and Life in 1st place. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:25 NinjaToss wrote: I think we have been asking this for a while now. Also at this point I actually predict Zest to be placed ahead of soO considering how many times Zest won against soO and also the sole fact that Zest actually won shit and not get second every single time like soO. Not sure how much Taeja won in HotS but I think he was more impressive in WoL, therefore soO in 5th place, Taeja in 4th place, Zest in 3rd place, INno in 2nd place and Life in 1st place. For the record, looking at the sheer number of wins, TaeJa won more Premier tournaments than anyone else in HotS. | ||
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Naikonz
Romania65 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On March 02 2016 23:46 thecrazymunchkin wrote: I wish people actually read things instead of looking at numbers | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:14 Elentos wrote: Even though making four consecutive GSL finals is much harder. I guess it's extremely subjective, but I'll always value the guy who wins when it matters the most, especially when he does that TWO times. I don't know if making 4 GSL finals is actually much harder than winning 2 Blizzcons, both achievements are totally insane. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: I guess it's extremely subjective, but I'll always value the guy who wins when it matters the most, especially when he does that TWO times. I don't know if making 4 GSL finals is actually much harder than winning 2 Blizzcons, both achievements are totally insane. soO 4 GSL finals in a row is the closest we have ever had to a bonjwa | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On March 03 2016 02:42 [PkF] Wire wrote: sOs 7 ??? More controversial than Nerchio #1 in the PR. I need to seriously read the article but the mere idea of a guy who won 3 100k stacked tourneys being only #7 just looks ridiculous to me. OK I read the part about sOs and the justifications are interesting, it actually really makes sense, sOs indeed had really bad times when he couldn't get good performances. Still, this ability to give it all when it matters the most is what makes a true champion, and when it happens two times (3 if you count IEM) it's not just bracket luck. sOs deserved FAR better imo (#1 or #2) but that's always subjective. Thanks for those articles btw, always amazing to look back at those wonderful HotS years. I suppose it comes down to what your opinion of "Greatest" means. Is it consistency, that is, doing well over a long period of time against arguably inferior opponents like in many of Taeja's wins? Or, is it pulling it out when it really matters in very specific occasions? Does "almost" getting there a lot of the time outweigh getting "there" a few times? Personally, I feel like sOs's ability to marathon top 10 level players over weekends is superior than Maru's top eights, but that's just my opinion. Don't get me wrong; Maru is a fantastic player, but, in the end, who are we going to remember? Maru for getting his top eights? Or sOs three $100,000 wins?. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:45 FrkFrJss wrote: I suppose it comes down to what your opinion of "Greatest" means. Is it consistency, that is, doing well over a long period of time against arguably inferior opponents like in many of Taeja's wins? Or, is it pulling it out when it really matters in very specific occasions? Does "almost" getting there a lot of the time outweigh getting "there" a few times? Personally, I feel like sOs's ability to marathon top 10 level players over weekends is superior than Maru's top eights, but that's just my opinion. Don't get me wrong; Maru is a fantastic player, but, in the end, who are we going to remember? Maru for getting his top eights? Or sOs three $100,000 wins?. You'll end up remembering both because Maru is the only double royal roader in Starcraft 2 (both in HotS, too). | ||
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swissman777
1106 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:04 stuchiu wrote: No one remembers Sync. Everyone remembers Yellow. Maybe bc Sync was just one time guy like jjakji? I dunno who sync is but surely sOs with his wonky styles and his amazing proleague performance alone deserves recognition. Seriously, even if he lost in iem katowice, the fact that he did proxy gates twice in a winner takes all finals would make him the ballsiest palyer known to man. | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On March 03 2016 04:05 swissman777 wrote: Maybe bc Sync was just one time guy like jjakji? I dunno who sync is but surely sOs with his wonky styles and his amazing proleague performance alone deserves recognition. Seriously, even if he lost in iem katowice, the fact that he did proxy gates twice in a winner takes all finals would make him the ballsiest palyer known to man. He's got nothing on InCa | ||
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swissman777
1106 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:48 Elentos wrote: You'll end up remembering both because Maru is the only double royal roader in Starcraft 2 (both in HotS, too). Sos is the only person to reverse all kill in proleague and win twice at blizzcon finals. Seriously, maru won only two premier tournaments. Is consistency that important? | ||
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swissman777
1106 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:25 Elentos wrote: Life got to 2 Blizzcon finals and won a bunch more tournaments than sOs, including having better results in Korea. So I'm intrigued as to how sOs is better than Life but INnoVation is better than sOs. Life won one more premier tournament than sos in hots. | ||
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Ensiferum8
Canada103 Posts
On March 03 2016 03:25 Elentos wrote: Life won 1 blizzcon. sOs 2. 2>1Life got to 2 Blizzcon finals and won a bunch more tournaments than sOs, including having better results in Korea. So I'm intrigued as to how sOs is better than Life but INnoVation is better than sOs. On top of that, sOs was way more consistent. Life would be great for 6 months, then completly disappear. On top of that, sOs wins are impressive that Life's wins. Finally, sOs was a god almost all HOTS long in Proleague, where Life was simply garbage with KT. sOs even all killed KT rolster in playoff, and brought his team to PL finals. Mostly because of PL performance, sOs should be above. But even if you disagree about that and thinks Life is better than sOs, theres no way an unbias person would not put sOs in top 3, (inno #1 and Life #2). The fact that he is #7 is just an insult to every sc2 fans, and every people who follows ssc2 closely. Theres a reason why every comments here are questionning why is sOs #7, when usually, most people agree with stuchiu. Stuchiu just made a list of his favorite players, and listened to his heart, instead of listening to logic. Which sucks, because i really loved stuchiu thread before, he was really competent and a good writer. He lost tons of credibility right there. Im still gonna give him a second chance, and read his future stuff, but man thats disappointing. P.S: Im not an sOs fan, Im terran and my favs are FlaSh and especially TY, so im not saying that because im bias | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Ensiferum8
Canada103 Posts
On March 03 2016 04:11 swissman777 wrote: yeah, but sOs tournaments wins are more impressive. + Life is garbage in PL, while sOs was a god.Life won one more premier tournament than sos in hots. | ||
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