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madals
United Kingdom624 Posts
Following the update earlier in the week, we have asked SPOTV to broadcast StarLeague on both DingIt and YouTube going forward. Additionally, full 1080p, 60fps streams will be available for free. Tomorrows games: aLive vs MyuNgSiK herO vs Hurricane soO vs INnoVation Soulkey vs Trust 
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:14 Clonester wrote: Hmm, so still no proper Cast for me in Europe. But for the rest this is good news. You know you can watch streams on youtube now from Germany? Thanks for doing this Madals, even though it's not helping your business. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:18 Elentos wrote: You know you can watch streams on youtube now from Germany? Thanks for doing this Madals, even though it's not helping your business. You can? Gotta try sometime soon. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:18 Elentos wrote: You know you can watch streams on youtube now from Germany? Thanks for doing this Madals, even though it's not helping your business. Really? Didnt know that! | ||
FO-nTTaX
Johto4909 Posts
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/YouTube-Verwirrung-um-Live-Streaming-in-Deutschland-3046587.html Since late December it is available in Germany | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
It started working a few weeks ago, which is really nice. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Dana44
Poland29 Posts
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:53 Dana44 wrote: why the hell cant we watch ssl on twitch Because DingIt paid them? Duh. | ||
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Dana44
Poland29 Posts
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:53 Dana44 wrote: is there a SINGLE person who likes dingit more than twitch? why the hell cant we watch ssl on twitch I'm glad they did this actually. It's super easy to stream on twitch, but I've heard some real shitty things about them as a company. Anything to get away from Twitch I'm all for. | ||
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
some highschooler thought he came up witha unique and fun-to-say name? like bing, uber, lyft, or any of those other crappy names. perhaps hoping that it one day becomes a verb like "to google" "hey did you catch ssl last night?" "no, let me DingIt!!!" i refuse to watch on that platform solely because of its hideous name. .. and its horrible reputation. | ||
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walsh_walsh
United States200 Posts
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:16 sc2chronic wrote: ok, i have to get this off my chest. what the hell is a ding-it??? some highschooler thought he came up witha unique and fun-to-say name? like bing, uber, lyft, or any of those other crappy names. perhaps hoping that it one day becomes a verb like "to google" "hey did you catch ssl last night?" "no, let me DingIt!!!" i refuse to watch on that platform solely because of its hideous name. So do you not use youtube? That's a dumb name, too, if you think about it. | ||
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Garemie
United States248 Posts
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:22 Elentos wrote: So do you not use youtube? That's a dumb name, too, if you think about it. no its really not. you-tube. insta-gram. snap-chat. these names actually relate to the products themselves. they are not dumb names. ding-it, is pretty fucking dumb. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Taco87
Norway72 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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evolsiefil
143 Posts
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Penev
28451 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:12 madals wrote: To the StarCraft Community, Following the update earlier in the week, we have asked SPOTV to broadcast StarLeague on both DingIt and YouTube going forward. Additionally, full 1080p, 60fps streams will be available for free. Tomorrows games: aLive vs MyuNgSiK herO vs Hurricane soO vs INnoVation Soulkey vs Trust That's very nice idd Props! | ||
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Dana44
Poland29 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:16 Mistakes wrote: I'm glad they did this actually. It's super easy to stream on twitch, but I've heard some real shitty things about them as a company. Anything to get away from Twitch I'm all for. what? go on and search dingit on reddit, dingit has much worse reputation and is annoying to use | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:42 evolsiefil wrote: So can anyone Post the actual YouTube link where I can watch the stream tomorrow? Sure. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
Thanks! | ||
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Penev
28451 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:16 sc2chronic wrote: ok, i have to get this off my chest. what the hell is a ding-it??? some highschooler thought he came up witha unique and fun-to-say name? like bing, uber, lyft, or any of those other crappy names. perhaps hoping that it one day becomes a verb like "to google" "hey did you catch ssl last night?" "no, let me DingIt!!!" i refuse to watch on that platform solely because of its hideous name. .. and its horrible reputation. kinda like the sound of that tbh | ||
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madals
United Kingdom624 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:16 sc2chronic wrote: ok, i have to get this off my chest. what the hell is a ding-it??? some highschooler thought he came up witha unique and fun-to-say name? like bing, uber, lyft, or any of those other crappy names. perhaps hoping that it one day becomes a verb like "to google" "hey did you catch ssl last night?" "no, let me DingIt!!!" i refuse to watch on that platform solely because of its hideous name. .. and its horrible reputation. Ding = a term often used when someone levels up in a MMO. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:22 Elentos wrote: So do you not use youtube? That's a dumb name, too, if you think about it. ahahahaha | ||
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:53 Dana44 wrote: is there a SINGLE person who likes dingit more than twitch? why the hell cant we watch ssl on twitch I didn't try dingit because of the install issue, but really for me YT has been better than twitch, both from europe and from south america (where I live now). And last year azubu was far superior to twitch, and until now afreeca too. I don't know why Twitch hates me but it's always the most unstable stream for me, making me choose any other solution when they're available... | ||
Death916
United States23 Posts
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usopsama
6502 Posts
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Fatz
United States5 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 28 2016 08:41 usopsama wrote: Bogus vs. soO. Wasn't this a 2014 finals? I am so pumped. Yeah but this time it's a loser bracket match, first round KESPA | ||
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evolsiefil
143 Posts
Thx a lot. | ||
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CometNine
New Zealand87 Posts
However, now that we have access to YouTube as well...it's a no-brainer just use YouTube over DingIt. Hope your job isn't on the line as a result Madals, good luck! Also sidenote - I think pretty much all the alternatives we've seen are just plainly better than Twitch - Azubu, Afreeca, YouTube lol. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
Yes you read that right. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
Though it won't be the same as Azubu. | ||
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Growiel
Korea (South)363 Posts
They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky. As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great. | ||
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walsh_walsh
United States200 Posts
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On January 28 2016 14:32 Growiel wrote: Everybody is rejoicing but I kinda feel bad. Ding-it is a business, doing this gives them nothing except maybe easing the hate on them. They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky. As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great. No matter what it is their fault. They had this issue with the CS:GO fans because of the .exe and now a plugin requirement to view. They heard the feedback that the viewers DO NOT want to have any plugin or anything as a requirement to view the stream. They failed to comply, so they must bear the consequences. Although I think the community did take it too far, they could have just install a small free linux VM with only chrome browser and the plugin, watch the stream there if they fear a malware or anything and then shut it down. | ||
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rednusa
651 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 28 2016 07:16 Mistakes wrote: I'm glad they did this actually. It's super easy to stream on twitch, but I've heard some real shitty things about them as a company. Anything to get away from Twitch I'm all for. Except downloading random software from an unknown source that wants a lot of rights. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 28 2016 14:32 Growiel wrote: Everybody is rejoicing but I kinda feel bad. Ding-it is a business, doing this gives them nothing except maybe easing the hate on them. They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky. As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great. That's what you get for not addapting to your audience though. This is not their first failed experiment. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On January 28 2016 16:31 SC2Toastie wrote: That's what you get for not addapting to your audience though. This is not their first failed experiment. Also they can still agree with SPOTV to place there some of their adds to get some revenue from the stream itself, even if it is on Youtube. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
I know what UDP/TCP is and how their plugin could help. But as many people said before, there is no justification for an end user to install a plugin to watch a stream in 2016. Even if it is not an adware or malware, it is a glorified way for them to bypass adblock at best. I sincerely hope their company goes under and they leave sc2 scene for good. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
The community really overreacted on this, especially reddit, but I guess it can't be helped | ||
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MASSIEVE_SLANG
Belgium13 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 28 2016 17:54 Arvendilin wrote: Well I guess this will be the last season SSL is sponsored by DingIt :/ The community really overreacted on this, especially reddit, but I guess it can't be helped Reddit overreacted? Tell me more. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 28 2016 17:54 Arvendilin wrote: Well I guess this will be the last season SSL is sponsored by DingIt :/ The community really overreacted on this, especially reddit, but I guess it can't be helped No. For one of the first times in history, the community actually reacted correctly. I'm quite proud. Thanks to DingIt for recognizing their product is sub-par, now you know what you need to do : come back with something that's actually decent, and not shady-looking. | ||
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Pughy
Wales662 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV and click live stream to watch on YT | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On January 28 2016 18:32 Pughy wrote: Since no one posted it and we're 3 pages in (seriously, wtf) https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV and click live stream to watch on YT On January 28 2016 18:07 MASSIEVE_SLANG wrote: Here is the link to the YouTube stream, if you don't want to mess with plugins or anything. There was a post actually | ||
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Penev
28451 Posts
On January 28 2016 18:32 Pughy wrote: Since no one posted it and we're 3 pages in (seriously, wtf) https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV and click live stream to watch on YT It was posted in this thread alone at least 2 times | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
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africola
Germany35 Posts
Everytime the camera is moving (and it is very often in a gaming stream) there is serious shading on DingIt and it's just not what you call true 1080p quality. Maybe it is 1080p, maybe it is 60fps but it doesnt appear like it for sure. More like 480p. So @madals: I read through your long post last week and I followed your arguments as they theoretically actually make sense. But words is the one thing, as the product DingIt is delivering, despite having the contra of the extra Plugin to install, isn't really nice at all and doesn't give the user a good viewing experience at all. Sorry to say as I support new approaches to streaming, but you actually need to improve A LOT. | ||
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Pughy
Wales662 Posts
On January 28 2016 18:35 Penev wrote: It was posted in this thread alone at least 2 times I apologize, I went through again and saw a post which had it linked as hyper link as 'sure' and i was going through super fast looking for an obvious link (I googled, found the YT and clicked a away thinking it was a normal YT because it looks the same as a normal page but Tasteless tweeted it so I found it there) and I thought I would make it obvious for people looking for it. Little wasted as well so shot straight through the comments looking for a link. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 28 2016 06:53 Dana44 wrote: is there a SINGLE person who likes dingit more than twitch? why the hell cant we watch ssl on twitch Youtube streams are far superior from twitch for a viewer. Never a lag, perfect quality and bandwith. Dingit i can say. It never works for me. (didn't try a lot though) | ||
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PPN
France248 Posts
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On January 28 2016 14:32 Growiel wrote: Everybody is rejoicing but I kinda feel bad. Ding-it is a business, doing this gives them nothing except maybe easing the hate on them. They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky. As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great. Allow me to blow your mind. If a company creates a bad product, it is not the consumers' fault for hating the product. :O ! On January 28 2016 15:33 WrathSCII wrote: Although I think the community did take it too far, they could have just install a small free linux VM with only chrome browser and the plugin, watch the stream there if they fear a malware or anything and then shut it down. What? You seriously think it's justifiable to go to such lengths just to watch a fucking stream? A stream for a single event, mind you... This is 2016, even Afreeca doesn't force us to hide behind proxies to watch their video feeds anymore, and you think this would be acceptable? On January 28 2016 19:05 FFW_Rude wrote: Youtube streams are far superior from twitch for a viewer. Never a lag, perfect quality and bandwith. Dingit i can say. It never works for me. (didn't try a lot though) Just chiming in to say that's not true for everyone... I haven't had issues with Twitch in 4 years, meanwhile YouTube has been broken more often than not, although it's improved somewhat lately... | ||
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Creager
Germany1889 Posts
No tears were shed. | ||
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JokerAi
Germany142 Posts
Please fix the quality this looks like 480p in fullsceen. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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iamCHOMP
Canada15 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Pande said he got a list of streams and the English YT stream was not on it. Does DingIt say that TL is not allowed to show the English YT stream (not sure how they would have a say in what is shown on TL and what not) or is this just a misunderstanding? On February 04 2016 18:20 Pandemona wrote: DingIt Manager gave me a list of streams to use the YouTube english stream was not in the list. On February 04 2016 18:29 Pandemona wrote: kr Naver | kr YouTube | kr DingIT | uk DingIt Streams he said were legit which is from Ryan the Asian Esport manager for DingIt Hopefully Madals, Ryan or a TL admin can tell us what's going on, thanks! Even Tasteless tweets out the english YT stream, so I think not showing it on TL is a shame and hurts SSL. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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Varest
Austria44 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
EDIT: actually it might be one of those technical things since each one might need to be done individually. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 04 2016 19:28 Plexa wrote: It should be there, if it isn't then either (a) someone got lazy (b) there's something technical preventing it (which I doubt). EDIT: actually it might be one of those technical things since each one might need to be done individually. Good to know, hopefully we'll have it there in the future. Too many are not aware of the YT stream. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51453 Posts
(i finally found admin response <3 Plexa for working) | ||
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