On January 12 2016 11:30 GodZo wrote:
If you analayze all WoL and HotS, there was different eras and different balance changes, and the game changed over the years.

WoL was pretty different compared to HotS, but also the 1st period of WoL with the late WoL, like two different games for some aspects.

In each "era", each player can be compared with another player in the same era. For Example in early WoL, White Ra was one of the best players, thanks to his special tactics too, no joke.

In that era for example, tactics were more important than mechanics. So White Ra was one the best in "that" more tactic game. Sjow also, in the same era he was one of the strongest players, because of his solid strategies and gamesense. And remember TLO plays and Socke micro, and other players.

Then, maps and balance changed all the game over the months and years. Sill will change again.

The aritcle sitll is interesting, but it has not an "absolute" value, it's an opinion, and maybe a bit based on the last results more than past results, but doesn't matter.

In my opinion Stephano is the number one, not only for what he won, but also because in his "era" he could win against any players, and Naniwa follows of course. They impressed me more than all the other players.

Good post. I remember when in WoL at beginning balance was super bad. We all remember MorroW win tournament with only 1 strategy reaper and win. It was very frustrating to see, because IdrA was miles ahead of all other foreign players at that time (maybe not Jinro).

It is always difficult to make ranking, but overall I think the ranking is okay

I am super much looking forward to next years list to see what happened this year. I think Snute is going to #1 and MarineLord maybe top #5. Snute is already on list and he is in great shape and amazing player. He can beat koreans everyday like it is a walk to the toilet

Doodsmack

United States7224 Posts

January 12 2016 03:40 GMT

#162

Stephano is a legend...needless to say.

ElMeanYo

United States1032 Posts

January 12 2016 05:34 GMT

#163

Stephano deserving of the #1, but Scarlett should have been #2. Cmon... Huk before Scarlett? Hard to take this article seriously if not for Stephano at #1.

Phredxor

New Zealand15076 Posts

January 12 2016 05:36 GMT

#164

On January 12 2016 14:34 ElMeanYo wrote:
Stephano deserving of the #1, but Scarlett should have been #2. Cmon... Huk before Scarlett? Hard to take this article seriously if not for Stephano at #1.

Hard to take you seriously when you put Scarlett at #2.

SetGuitarsToKill

Canada28396 Posts

January 12 2016 05:45 GMT

#165

Huk was more successful in both Premier tournaments and in Korea. Scarlett has a sick head-to-head record against Huk, it's hard to argue against Huk overall here.

Also, the top 3 all had pics of them carrying their countries flag, should have kept the theme with the other two.
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christophequirion

France82 Posts

January 12 2016 19:42 GMT

#166

did someone made the joke already ? Stephano winning NW3 should be add to the list :p

Curufinwe Feanor

Brazil91 Posts

January 12 2016 19:50 GMT

#167

Kelazhur will be there next year... Mark my words!!!

NiGoL

1868 Posts

January 12 2016 19:59 GMT

#168

Naniwa beat more koreans than stephano or am i blind

Poopi

France12911 Posts

January 12 2016 20:16 GMT

#169

I count 37 for Sat and 30 for NaNi.

Scarlett has probably reached a better level than HuK at some point but results wise it's a no brainer, I had HuK after Scarlett but changed it after I saw HuK's results on liquipedia.

Krymming

Sweden38 Posts

January 13 2016 00:25 GMT

#170

I think it wierd that the top 2 article doesnt mention that most tours Stephano won was just foreigners and some decent korean. It doesnt mention Naniwa beating both Nestea and MVP close to when they were at the top of the world.
I also think that Stephano was above Naniwa in "Every major criteria" even considering how extremly favored the meta was for zerg when Stephano achieved stuff compared to Naniwa is a tad untrue since Naniwa managed to achieve stuff when the meta wasnt favored.

[s]crusha

1 Post

January 13 2016 01:58 GMT

#171

have no idea how on the greatest foreigners of all time the founders aren't on the list. Pillars, X'ds~Grrrr...
Shouldn't put the list as ever if you're only going back 5-10 years.

Phredxor

New Zealand15076 Posts

January 13 2016 04:14 GMT

#172

On January 13 2016 10:58 [s]crusha wrote:
have no idea how on the greatest foreigners of all time the founders aren't on the list. Pillars, X'ds~Grrrr...
Shouldn't put the list as ever if you're only going back 5-10 years.

This is a SC2 article. SC2 wasn't around 10 years ago. Fairly straightforward stuff.