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Clearly Snute is fishing for a pay rise :p
The top 25 will all be pro league regulars and pretty much the best of the best.
The b teamers won't be on very much i imagine
KeSPA reveals average salary for progamers - Page 2
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Clearly Snute is fishing for a pay rise :p The top 25 will all be pro league regulars and pretty much the best of the best. The b teamers won't be on very much i imagine | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16082 Posts
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On December 24 2015 16:13 Liquid`Snute wrote: from a non-Korean perspective ~$3000+/month seems to be a crazy strong baseline sc2 salary, especially if it's on top of free housing etc o_o good for the 25 listed in the sample size. you should ask for a raise Snute. You are better than most Koreans  | ||
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TR
2320 Posts
On December 24 2015 16:14 negativedge wrote: he got it from the same place most people get numbers from: their ass. That's what I was thinking when I read that comment lol. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
25% comes in a form of TL bias. Or does that only apply to writers? Oh wait, most of them don't get paid in pleb coin, so it must be in 100% bias | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On December 24 2015 17:15 Noonius wrote: 25% comes in a form of TL bias. Or does that only apply to writers? Oh wait, most of them don't get paid in pleb coin, so it must be in 100% bias LOL | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
On December 24 2015 18:11 aQuaSC wrote: Now let's pump more money into Korea instead of scene with almost non-existent salaries /s Yeah cause all A-teamers in the non original KeSPA teams, B-teamers and new comers are retiring because of all the money they're making! | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On December 24 2015 18:15 AWalker9 wrote: Yeah cause all A-teamers in the non original KeSPA teams, B-teamers and new comers are retiring because of all the money they're making! I care about Koreans and their healthy scene is important, but how do these A-teamers going to IEMs taking top spots (they were coming abroad, not these famous B-teamers) are supposed to help lower level scene? Was it about making more room in a team house? "herO, you made that much money on IEMs, how about we switch your salary to some B-teamer in CJ?" I love herO, he's my favorite Korean beside sOs and Zest. And others  Maybe KeSPA itself should do something about it, not making it happen at the expense of foreigners who are without any real money support but themselves in most cases.They are making pretty good money with government behind their backs, and when Blizzard gives more money into scene without Koreans pretty well paid to play this game full-time it's considered "welfare", I thought "welfare" is something that you not fight for but just take every month for nothing, Korean salary to me seems to be more of a "welfare" (even though neither of these things is not and it's laughable and pathetic to consider any of them to be that) than foreign prize pool. Now let me count who can possibly be that well paid among non-Koreans... I'm just trying to make a point, not ridiculing anything but I just can't help to put it this way, not another. I believe that skill disparity between Koreans and foreigners would be lower if some foreigners were able to make that much money. That would not be the reason, but it would certainly help EDIT: of course, sample size is pretty small, but I think that even it if took B-teamers into consideration it still would be light-years away as a whole from support foreign scene has. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote: Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Heh. Give me a good source for it and I'll get you a bottle of fine whiskey. If not, stop spreading misleading informations please. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
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Jealous
10339 Posts
On December 24 2015 18:36 -Kyo- wrote: All the people on the $300k over 3 year salaries died out Did this happen in SC2 as well as BW, or just BW? | ||
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ClanWars
United States330 Posts
Make no mistake. Lotta Korean players getting paid very little. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On December 24 2015 16:13 Liquid`Snute wrote: from a non-Korean perspective ~$3000+/month seems to be a crazy strong baseline sc2 salary, especially if it's on top of free housing etc o_o good for the 25 listed in the sample size. You really think $3000/month for someone who works every single day 12h+/day is good? According to my quick calculations it makes ~8€/hour, which is more than 1.5€/hour less than the minimum wage in France^^ edit : though I guess it's pretty good compared to many "real" athletes' salaries. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On December 24 2015 18:59 OtherWorld wrote: You really think $3000/month for someone who works every single day 12h+/day is good? According to my quick calculations it makes ~8€/hour, which is more than 1.5€/hour less than the minimum wage in France^^ You can't really equate playing StarCraft and flying to and playing in tournaments to regular working hours. | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On December 24 2015 18:59 OtherWorld wrote: You really think $3000/month for someone who works every single day 12h+/day is good? According to my quick calculations it makes ~8€/hour, which is more than 1.5€/hour less than the minimum wage in France^^ You forgot to take free housing, food, coaches and free trips into your quick calculations, and you could support your 12h+ work day with some schedule (I believe that some play that much, but you can't compare sc2 to a regular work, or if you can, how exactly does it compare?). | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On December 24 2015 19:03 ZAiNs wrote: You can't really equate playing StarCraft and flying to and playing in tournaments to regular working hours. Yeah, on second thought I edited my post. After all, many sportsmen, even ones good enough to get Olympic medals, have salaries way below 3K$/month, and that's when they can afford not to have a job to survive On December 24 2015 19:04 aQuaSC wrote: You forgot to take free housing, food, coaches and free trips into your quick calculations, and you could support your 12h+ work day with some schedule (I believe that some play that much, but you can't compare sc2 to a regular work, or if you can, how exactly does it compare?). Yes, your points are true. For the schedule, my only source is DLO's interview with Solar (here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/470686-solar-interview-at-msi-beat-it ), where Solar states : "Now I play like 40-50 games a day. That's around 12 hours." | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On December 24 2015 19:04 OtherWorld wrote: Yeah, on second thought I edited my post. After all, many sportsmen, even ones good enough to get Olympic medals, have salaries way below 3K$/month, and that's when they can afford not to have a job to survive Yes, your points are true. For the schedule, my only source is DLO's interview with Solar (here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/470686-solar-interview-at-msi-beat-it ), where Solar states : "Now I play like 40-50 games a day. That's around 12 hours." I hope you didn't take my post as an attack on you or anything :s I believe that Blizzard is trying to emulate a little what was happening in Korea when BW was gaining popularity. Big prizes can draw attention and possible small infrastructure not focused on "making content" or "creating stories", but on playing the game. Good stories are created on their own. And I still hope that foreign scene can be competitive to Korean when it's developed from the bottom, not when it's about picking best local players and boosting them up in Korea like it happened in beginning of SC2 - there were tendencies to do that even with Lilbow for last Blizzcon, or at least it was mentioned, where they initially wanted to use Korean environment to let him practice for it. But in the end he didn't practice at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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