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Anything more than zero is icing on the cake.
Having said that, some of these kids mortgage their future to play a computer game full time. At least with pro sports in AM the kids get a scholarship and free education out of it. Then if they can't make it they have a degree to fall back on.
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More than I hope to make anytime soon!
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Choya once said during his streaming that if non-conglomerate teams offered you $30k, it means the team offers its highest respecct.
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It's hard to feel bad for Korean players about the new WCS when you see that they have a salary 5 to 10 times better than all the European players.
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On December 25 2015 00:33 FireCake wrote:
It's hard to feel bad for Korean players about the new WCS when you see that they have a salary 5 to 10 times better than all the European players.
They were given too much opportunities abroad that were in hopes of drawing higher attention of community, but in the end it backfired - both viewer-wise and player-wise, taking away incentives of players without professional support and therefore non-Korean initial big support for the game - and now they feel hurt. It's understandable, but these "opportunities" should be avoided in the first place.
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45K is damn good.
On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming.
Who?
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On December 25 2015 00:33 FireCake wrote:
It's hard to feel bad for Korean players about the new WCS when you see that they have a salary 5 to 10 times better than all the European players.
Sample size: 25
And yeah, some people make about 40k USD and so ban koreans, and only koreans, from international tournaments.
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On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. Show nested quote +On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who?
http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker
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On December 25 2015 00:50 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who? http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker
Oh, I thought we were talking about SC2 because of where this thread was.
I assume Breaker is being sarcastic? Making over 2 million dollars each year just from streaming is impossible, right?
Edit: I just Googled some Twitch salaries and stats and yeah it's sarcasm lol.
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On December 25 2015 00:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 00:50 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who? http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker Oh, I thought we were talking about SC2 because of where this thread was. I assume Breaker is being sarcastic? Making over 2 million dollars each year just from streaming is impossible, right? Edit: I just Googled some Twitch salaries and stats and yeah it's sarcasm lol.
Hard to say honestly, he definitely didn't say anything about 2 million but 200 thousand, and Faker doesn't stream on Twitch but on Azubu. No idea what the differences are unfortunately
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France12901 Posts
On December 25 2015 00:55 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 00:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 25 2015 00:50 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who? http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker Oh, I thought we were talking about SC2 because of where this thread was. I assume Breaker is being sarcastic? Making over 2 million dollars each year just from streaming is impossible, right? Edit: I just Googled some Twitch salaries and stats and yeah it's sarcasm lol. Hard to say honestly, he definitely didn't say anything about 2 million but 200 thousand, and Faker doesn't stream on Twitch but on Azubu. No idea what the differences are unfortunately
200 thousand/month makes for 2.4k*k a year so it's more than 2 millions.
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On December 25 2015 01:00 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 00:55 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 25 2015 00:50 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who? http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker Oh, I thought we were talking about SC2 because of where this thread was. I assume Breaker is being sarcastic? Making over 2 million dollars each year just from streaming is impossible, right? Edit: I just Googled some Twitch salaries and stats and yeah it's sarcasm lol. Hard to say honestly, he definitely didn't say anything about 2 million but 200 thousand, and Faker doesn't stream on Twitch but on Azubu. No idea what the differences are unfortunately 200 thousand/month makes for 2.4k*k a year so it's more than 2 millions.
Ah sorry, re-read that now, you're right, it can't be true :s
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On December 25 2015 01:04 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 01:00 Poopi wrote:On December 25 2015 00:55 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 25 2015 00:50 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who? http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker Oh, I thought we were talking about SC2 because of where this thread was. I assume Breaker is being sarcastic? Making over 2 million dollars each year just from streaming is impossible, right? Edit: I just Googled some Twitch salaries and stats and yeah it's sarcasm lol. Hard to say honestly, he definitely didn't say anything about 2 million but 200 thousand, and Faker doesn't stream on Twitch but on Azubu. No idea what the differences are unfortunately 200 thousand/month makes for 2.4k*k a year so it's more than 2 millions. Ah sorry, re-read that now, you're right, it can't be true :s
fwiw I think $100-200K total over a full year of streaming might be possible if he's really really popular, since LoL is a big scene, but I know nothing about LoL in general. But this OP is about SC2 I presume (not to mention salaries and not made up guesses about streaming from other games...), so I'm not sure if Breaker's comment is relevant at all.
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On December 25 2015 01:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 01:04 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 01:00 Poopi wrote:On December 25 2015 00:55 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 25 2015 00:50 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who? http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker Oh, I thought we were talking about SC2 because of where this thread was. I assume Breaker is being sarcastic? Making over 2 million dollars each year just from streaming is impossible, right? Edit: I just Googled some Twitch salaries and stats and yeah it's sarcasm lol. Hard to say honestly, he definitely didn't say anything about 2 million but 200 thousand, and Faker doesn't stream on Twitch but on Azubu. No idea what the differences are unfortunately 200 thousand/month makes for 2.4k*k a year so it's more than 2 millions. Ah sorry, re-read that now, you're right, it can't be true :s fwiw I think $100-200K total over a full year of streaming might be possible if he's really really popular, since LoL is a big scene, but I know nothing about LoL in general. But this OP is about SC2 I presume (not to mention salaries and not made up guesses about streaming from other games...), so I'm not sure if Breaker's comment is relevant at all.
I agree the scenario you mention is possible, but anyway, the salary KeSPA pros receive is a base salary and stream income is a bonus over that sum, so I'd stop discussing streaming whatsoever. Nowadays some foreigner pros have to rely on streaming to sustain themselves, which in my opinion can hurt their commitment to practice.
I'd like to see foreign player-base average salary  Can be top 5 players, not 25.
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On December 25 2015 01:14 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 01:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 25 2015 01:04 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 01:00 Poopi wrote:On December 25 2015 00:55 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 25 2015 00:50 aQuaSC wrote:On December 25 2015 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:45K is damn good. On December 24 2015 15:05 BreAKerTV wrote:
Faker easily gets 200k USD a month, if not from playing for SKT, definitely for streaming. Who? http://lol.gamepedia.com/Faker Oh, I thought we were talking about SC2 because of where this thread was. I assume Breaker is being sarcastic? Making over 2 million dollars each year just from streaming is impossible, right? Edit: I just Googled some Twitch salaries and stats and yeah it's sarcasm lol. Hard to say honestly, he definitely didn't say anything about 2 million but 200 thousand, and Faker doesn't stream on Twitch but on Azubu. No idea what the differences are unfortunately 200 thousand/month makes for 2.4k*k a year so it's more than 2 millions. Ah sorry, re-read that now, you're right, it can't be true :s fwiw I think $100-200K total over a full year of streaming might be possible if he's really really popular, since LoL is a big scene, but I know nothing about LoL in general. But this OP is about SC2 I presume (not to mention salaries and not made up guesses about streaming from other games...), so I'm not sure if Breaker's comment is relevant at all. I agree the scenario you mention is possible, but anyway, the salary KeSPA pros receive is a base salary and stream income is a bonus over that sum, so I'd stop discussing streaming whatsoever. Nowadays some foreigner pros have to rely on streaming to sustain themselves, which in my opinion can hurt their commitment to practice. I'd like to see foreign player-base average salary Can be top 5 players, not 25.
Streaming, prize pools and incentives don't add much:
"Additionally, when taking into consideration the amount of income from the players’ respective streaming activities, performance bonuses, and prize money which have already been provided by the association to the players for 2015, the average salary for KeSPA registered corporation founded professional eSports players is estimated to be $68,189 for League of Legends and over $42,604 for StarCraft II players."
someone translated it here
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This data comes from 40 players from the 8 KeSPA-registered corporation founded professional teams that have finalized their official contracts as of right now, December 2015 (KT, Samsung, SKT, CJ, Jin Air, NaJin, Longzhu, Tigers) and 25 players from 5 StarCraft II teams (KT, Samsung, SKT, CJ, Jin Air)
at the moment we have only 5 teams for proleague, i don't think this is a good signal
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Interesting...time to become KeSPA Pro!!
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Canada8989 Posts
This is better then I tough honestly, of course the fact that they left out a lot of the player probably alter the result, since I guess Kespa cut at the bottom and not at the top, but still if you leave in a team house it is not that bad.
After a quick google search it seems like average salaries in Korea is around 22 000 of course programmer work more hours then the usual person but it seems to be a pretty good job.
Someone know the cost of life in Korea?
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