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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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Silvana
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So yeah, while it's very apropriate to say "wait until the actual announcements come before complaining", in this case I don't buy it. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On December 19 2015 15:34 Diabolique wrote: I really hope, MC unretires, participates in the WCS Welfare and takes it all. People forget there was about a year that MC pretty much did that, haha. | ||
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DinosaurPoop
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
DH will probably be functionally European Tournaments, which it actually mostly has been for a while. Though could make some of the bigger ones a "Global" event without much of a change. Looking at last year's list of Premier tournaments, the only tournaments actually effected will be the Dreamhacks. Some of the IEMs will become "Circuit" championships. This isn't going to be as much of a change as we're thinking. Though the ones getting the worst hit are the B-teamers in Korea. You're not going to see many Solar runs when they're approaching being an A-teamer. But being a B-teamer has always been pretty terrible in Starcraft. | ||
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mEsA
France11 Posts
I will be interrested by some stats showing the numbers of SC2 players in each regions, because i think that many more koreans are playing SC2 than people in others regions. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16078 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On December 19 2015 17:23 Taf the Ghost wrote: Reading the requirements for a "Global" Event, pretty much every IEM that has happened will work. The prizepool would need to be bigger, but given how much they cost to run, it doesn't seem a huge issue (especially if Blizzard is backing some of them). DH will probably be functionally European Tournaments, which it actually mostly has been for a while. Though could make some of the bigger ones a "Global" event without much of a change. Looking at last year's list of Premier tournaments, the only tournaments actually effected will be the Dreamhacks. Some of the IEMs will become "Circuit" championships. This isn't going to be as much of a change as we're thinking. Though the ones getting the worst hit are the B-teamers in Korea. You're not going to see many Solar runs when they're approaching being an A-teamer. But being a B-teamer has always been pretty terrible in Starcraft. You are WRONG. You need to read it again. There are no Global Events. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On December 19 2015 17:50 Charoisaur wrote: I hope Polt, Hydra and some other koreans with a visa make this system look like a joke and win every tournament. This is really the most retarded thing someone could ever come up with. Exactly, I just hope, MC does it as well. When there are so much money available for free for him ... | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On December 19 2015 17:59 Diabolique wrote: You are WRONG. You need to read it again. There are no Global Events. There aren't any announced yet. And the rules have only been published for 2 days. This doesn't mean I think this is the best choice of action, but the Doom & Gloom is, currently, way overblown. | ||
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nanaoei
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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DnCL
86 Posts
(And this negative tought I can't dimiss: '' If you can't win, reduce the competition '' ) ? | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On December 19 2015 18:10 Taf the Ghost wrote: There aren't any announced yet. And the rules have only been published for 2 days. This doesn't mean I think this is the best choice of action, but the Doom & Gloom is, currently, way overblown. No, it is not overblown. Not at all. You are writing that IEM will be a Global Event. It will not. IEM announced, it will become WCS Welfare Circuit. DH as well. RB probably as well. There is no preexisting bigger event than IEMs were. So, it seems, none of the old preexisting events will be bigger than IEM and become WCS Global Event. It just does not exist. I personally believe, somebody will pick it up and organize a global event. If there is none, I can imagine, Blizzard itself will organize a new event, without tradition, without history. One. If we are lucky. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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ZombieFrog
United States87 Posts
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Elentos
55581 Posts
On December 19 2015 17:23 Taf the Ghost wrote: Reading the requirements for a "Global" Event, pretty much every IEM that has happened will work. The prizepool would need to be bigger, but given how much they cost to run, it doesn't seem a huge issue (especially if Blizzard is backing some of them). They were unwilling/unable to have prize pools beyond 25k at all their SC2 events except for Katowice in the past. Why would they be willing to make events going to 50k plus with their own money (which is what Global Events require) when they can run Circuit events where they can rely on Blizzard funding? IEM Taipei they already announced is gonna be an 8 Korean invitational with a 25k prize pool. Doesn't really leave hope for IEM events becoming Global. | ||
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todespolka
221 Posts
We want that people play on local servers but we are against a lock? People who have access to korean server have an edge over others. In regard to ladder incentive. You either set the number of wins very high which players achieve only if they ladder all the time or you set the number of required wins low which the best players will achieve in a short period of time. This means its either unfair to players who have to work and go to school or it forces worse player to ladder on na because they couldnt achieve the number of wins yet while the best players still ladder on korea/eu. We had both systems and from my point of view both have failed in certain aspects. Ladder lock makes sense because of region lock. We want to know the best of a region. With a ladder lock all players of a region have the opportunity to practise vs each other which wont happen if they can play on all servers. Also it will be unfair towards players who cant play on korean or on eu server. | ||
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