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2016 StarCraft II World Championship Series - Page 12

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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 23:11:05
December 17 2015 22:57 GMT
#221
On December 18 2015 07:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So reading again, what are the confirmed WCS Circuit tournaments?

there are 3:
-spring circuit championship
-summer circuit championship
-winter circuit championship

Each of these has regional qualifiers, winner of these qualifies immediately for Global finals playoffs. Are these DH/IEM? Or standalone?

Is there any other confirmed WCS Circuit tournament yet? I don't see any ' Circuit Events' yet? Apollo seems to say on reddit that there are 11?

The idea behind the change is that the WCS league is not taking so much time out of the calendar year which was preventing non-Blizzard tournaments from having access to the best SC2 players. So right now a top WCS Circuit player will be playing at least 7 tournaments: 3 Regional Challengers, 3 Circuit Championships, 1 WCS Global Finals (at least the playoffs). But each of those these Blizzard events during the season will be taking up only one weekend of all the players' time so other events have much bigger gaps to fit in.

I don't know what the 11 tournaments are unless he's counting the 7 I did and also putting in 2x GSL and 2x SSL, which wouldn't really make sense from a player's perspective.

edit: I think he is actually talking with some insider info about major events that a WCS Circuit player will actually be able to play. I think he's referencing some WCS Circuit Events outside of the Championship and its Regional Challengers. Should be good.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
December 17 2015 22:58 GMT
#222
On December 18 2015 07:56 JabuSeika wrote:
Chances of seeing someone like Flash or any other big Korean players in an NA tournament for 2016 are now zero.

Thank you Blizz.


Chances of seeing Flash in an NA tournament in 2016 were already zero.
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
December 17 2015 22:58 GMT
#223
I think it looks pretty good, makes me wanna practice but I am a little worried for EU region when there is Latin america etc. with lack of good players
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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
December 17 2015 22:58 GMT
#224
So foreigners can play SSL & GSL and WCS Circuit, but Koreans are locked? How is that fair? Oh, it's fair because everyone knows they have no chance at performing in those leagues...

Must suck really hard to be an up and coming SC2 player in Korea.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2015 22:58 GMT
#225
On December 18 2015 07:56 JabuSeika wrote:
Chances of seeing someone like Flash or any other big Korean players in an NA tournament for 2016 are now zero.

Thank you Blizz.


Nope. There are still global events possible in NA
Also i have to tell you something about Flash...
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 17 2015 22:59 GMT
#226
On December 18 2015 07:57 ClanWars wrote:
FYI since some people seem to not be understanding this, this system does not provide 11 extra tournaments, those tournaments are repurposed IEMs/Dreamhacks with Blizzard support and bigger prizepools, but a region lock.


But some DHs and IEMs will also be Global Events with 7500points which aren't region locked right?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 17 2015 23:00 GMT
#227
From what I read so far, significant part of people would be satisfied with blocking non-Koreans from attending official events.
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JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 23:03:14
December 17 2015 23:00 GMT
#228
On December 18 2015 07:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 07:56 JabuSeika wrote:
Chances of seeing someone like Flash or any other big Korean players in an NA tournament for 2016 are now zero.

Thank you Blizz.


Chances of seeing Flash in an NA tournament in 2016 were already zero.


On December 18 2015 07:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Nope. There are still global events possible in NA
Also i have to tell you something about Flash...



Like Flash, read pls.

Global Events are not guaranteed to be in NA. Possible, yes, but who knows really.
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
December 17 2015 23:01 GMT
#229
On December 18 2015 07:51 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 07:49 ivancype wrote:
is there anyway to ssl/gsl koreans (non-koreigners) to get some of the 8 spots of WCS CIRCUIT?


Nope, none at all. They can't play in the WCS Circuit and the points they earn in SSL/GSL are different ones than the WCS Circuit points.



I dont like this...

btw... what a poor naming choice: WCS Circuit Championships events, or World Championship Series Circuit Championship events
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 17 2015 23:01 GMT
#230
I'll wait and see. But my first impression (Well second technically after my earlier post) is this seems a lot like saving yourself from a bleeding out wound by shooting yourself in the head
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ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
December 17 2015 23:01 GMT
#231
On December 18 2015 07:59 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 07:57 ClanWars wrote:
FYI since some people seem to not be understanding this, this system does not provide 11 extra tournaments, those tournaments are repurposed IEMs/Dreamhacks with Blizzard support and bigger prizepools, but a region lock.


But some DHs and IEMs will also be Global Events with 7500points which aren't region locked right?


They can choose to be if they want to, but considering the huge amount of input those organisations had into this system, which is clearly favouring foreigners, I have to wonder if this is out of the belief that Koreans don't pull as much viewership. The requirements for a 7500 event incidently are stringent, WCS 5000 circuit events are easier to create.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 17 2015 23:01 GMT
#232
It's a joke that only 8 from Korea will make it to Blizzcon. And not a funny one
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
December 17 2015 23:02 GMT
#233
On December 18 2015 08:00 JabuSeika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 07:58 Elentos wrote:
On December 18 2015 07:56 JabuSeika wrote:
Chances of seeing someone like Flash or any other big Korean players in an NA tournament for 2016 are now zero.

Thank you Blizz.


Chances of seeing Flash in an NA tournament in 2016 were already zero.


Like Flash.

The only players in SC2 actually like Flash are Jaedong and Stork. And Jaedong has a visa.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12081 Posts
December 17 2015 23:02 GMT
#234
I expect something more, there's no real reason to have less korean leagues for the system as it is presented now, it would work just as fine with 6 instead of 4. They must have had a plan that includes a reason to reduce that number, and that plan isn't apparent right now, which is why I expect something else.
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
December 17 2015 23:03 GMT
#235
On December 18 2015 07:58 Nerchio wrote:
I think it looks pretty good, makes me wanna practice but I am a little worried for EU region when there is Latin america etc. with lack of good players

Good for you. You will have more money with less viewers. Great business for players, bad business for sponsors. But maybe, at the end of the year, Blizzard realizes how much money does this system cost them.
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HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
December 17 2015 23:03 GMT
#236
Id rather blizzard just invest all their money into the korean scene and if a foreigner wants to play sc2 professional they should have to travel there. This is like charity for the foreigner casters and sc2 personalities who work outside of korea.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 17 2015 23:03 GMT
#237
On December 18 2015 08:01 ClanWars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 07:59 Musicus wrote:
On December 18 2015 07:57 ClanWars wrote:
FYI since some people seem to not be understanding this, this system does not provide 11 extra tournaments, those tournaments are repurposed IEMs/Dreamhacks with Blizzard support and bigger prizepools, but a region lock.


But some DHs and IEMs will also be Global Events with 7500points which aren't region locked right?


They can choose to be if they want to, but considering the huge amount of input those organisations had into this system, which is clearly favouring foreigners, I have to wonder if this is out of the belief that Koreans don't pull as much viewership. The requirements for a 7500 event incidently are stringent, WCS 5000 circuit events are easier to create.


Be one of the only events apart from BlizzCon where fans can see foreigners vs Koreans? Seems very attractive to me tbh. I guess we'll see.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
December 17 2015 23:03 GMT
#238
On December 18 2015 08:00 JabuSeika wrote:
read pls.

Use a player who's great but not retired if you don't want replies like that.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18373 Posts
December 17 2015 23:04 GMT
#239
On December 18 2015 08:03 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 07:58 Nerchio wrote:
I think it looks pretty good, makes me wanna practice but I am a little worried for EU region when there is Latin america etc. with lack of good players

Good for you. You will have more money with less viewers. Great business for players, bad business for sponsors. But maybe, at the end of the year, Blizzard realizes how much money does this system cost them.


pretty sure WCS Global was pulling in way way more viewers than any DH did and maybe even more than some IEMs
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
December 17 2015 23:05 GMT
#240
On December 18 2015 08:04 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 08:03 Diabolique wrote:
On December 18 2015 07:58 Nerchio wrote:
I think it looks pretty good, makes me wanna practice but I am a little worried for EU region when there is Latin america etc. with lack of good players

Good for you. You will have more money with less viewers. Great business for players, bad business for sponsors. But maybe, at the end of the year, Blizzard realizes how much money does this system cost them.


pretty sure WCS Global was pulling in way way more viewers than any DH did and maybe even more than some IEMs


You mean 15k if lucky?
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