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Please keep this thread on topic. No useless one liners or insults. No player bashing or game bashing. Violators will be moderated harshly.
moxie
Profile Joined October 2010
United States17 Posts
December 02 2015 15:37 GMT
#641
Okay, all jokes aside I literally read the recent tech news that Adobe has finally decided to retire Adobe Flash. And now I just read that Flash has retired. Scary coincidence, no?

- moxie
http://twitch.tv/moxiecb NA/KR
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
December 02 2015 17:51 GMT
#642
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
T0mken
Profile Joined March 2014
Norway78 Posts
December 02 2015 17:58 GMT
#643
Hope we will see him in BW!
우정호 1988 - 2012
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 02 2015 22:31 GMT
#644
wow
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
operwolf
Profile Joined April 2008
United States324 Posts
December 02 2015 22:36 GMT
#645
Oh man, so sad to hear this. We all knew it was coming eventually, just hope he stays in esports. I'll never forget watching, staying up all night and being ass tired for class the next day but it was worth every second! Best of luck Flash!
He'll end up dead, because he'll die.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37029 Posts
December 02 2015 22:55 GMT
#646
On December 03 2015 07:36 operwolf wrote:
Oh man, so sad to hear this. We all knew it was coming eventually, just hope he stays in esports. I'll never forget watching, staying up all night and being ass tired for class the next day but it was worth every second! Best of luck Flash!

Are you some weird combination of opterown and Wolf?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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StarKanto
Profile Joined May 2010
France13 Posts
December 02 2015 23:11 GMT
#647
He'll stay in the memories of this game.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 02 2015 23:13 GMT
#648
Oh my god. Wow.
The heart's eternal vow
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15971 Posts
December 02 2015 23:25 GMT
#649
Doesn't surprise me with how terrible lotv is.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
December 03 2015 00:32 GMT
#650
this is sad but i hope he plays bw. it's going to be really fun and interesting to see him play with bisu, mind, zero, effort, hero, sea and the rest of the ex-pros there.

i wish flash all the best on his plans
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
December 03 2015 01:02 GMT
#651
Just reposting this post I made from the less-viewed thread:

And there he goes. My favorite Starcraft player I've ever watched. Am going to miss him from SC2, despite his general struggles. Obviously he never reached the heights many expected but he still stayed a relatively strong player in the Korean scene all things considered. Just too many heartbreaking incredibly close losses to other great players in Ro32s/Ro16s which probably shook him a bit too much. Still showed flashes of absolute brilliance in SC2 imo, even though he also showed some incredibly poor play and shocking decision making at times as well.

In addition to the so many fantastic BW memories, he did show his character and fight near the end of his SC2 run I thought too. Despite a truly horrible start to this last year's Proleague he bounced back strong for his team I thought. just felt KT in general was a bit misfiring and stuttering, too many critical players dropping in form at bad times.

But remember not long ago in this year's Proleague Playoffs, in the first round against eventual runners-up Jin Air, he put up a fantastic performance despite his team losing on the day (the 2nd leg)... where Flash was brought out first and almost all-killed Jin Air with KT's back against the wall facing elimination. 3 strong victories only to be finally outshone by the brilliant sOs in Game 4, who would continue on to reverse-all-kill the rest of the extremely underwhelming KT. Despite his overall struggles in the game, and too-long significant slumps in form and confidence, he would still time and time again bounce back with strong quite remarkable performances, which to me shows some of his inspiring resilience and fight despite his waning and faltering ability.

Farewell, The Ultimate Weapon, your legacy and impact on the RTS scene will never be forgotten.

And will be interesting to watch where he goes from here. One wonders how successful he could be as a coach... it would be extremely doubtful he would be anywhere as successful as the brilliant iloveoov has been for SKT1, as obviously evidenced this year, who was an absolute revelation, at least for this year. But for KT fans, you would think replicating this transition would be something they would be hoping for, as difficult and doubtful that possibility may seem. Regardless, whatever he chooses to move on to do, I will be following and wish him the best of success.

PS: And one other thing I would like to add. Despite the main page article claiming he fell off significantly after 2013, I would argue that 2014 wasn't that "terrible" of a year for Flash overall despite definitely a long and disappointing slump at a point. Yes he had some tough and disappointing individual league losses (quite a few to outstanding players though). But in Proleague it wasn't all so rough. Quite the opposite really.

His overall Proleague stats for 2014 were not bad at all, finishing with the 4th most number of wins and a respectable 23-16 record! And have people forgotten who was the 2014 Grand Finals MVP securing a critical win for his team (the 2nd map to put KT up 2-0 against the previously dominant SKT1) on the biggest stage against PartinG?

And the image of Flash dropkicking that SKT1 soccer ball into the crowd is easily one of my favorite SC2 memories. Felt like such an epic finals. That, and him winning IEM Toronto of course.

(>'.')>
LessDuEt
Profile Joined August 2014
United States8 Posts
December 03 2015 01:39 GMT
#652
A lot of unnecessary worship on this thread...

but GG WP Flash
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 15:06:49
December 03 2015 01:45 GMT
#653
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 03 2015 02:38 GMT
#654
On December 03 2015 10:39 LessDuEt wrote:
A lot of unnecessary worship on this thread...


I can only assume you never watched FlaSh play in the days of BW.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
wizmer
Profile Joined July 2012
France32 Posts
December 03 2015 03:47 GMT
#655
On December 02 2015 11:10 jalstar wrote:Even in real sports you kind of struggle for examples, there's Roger Federer and Michael Jordan and not too many others.


People always forget Sebastien Loeb.
Apart from that, sad to see Flash leaves but no one can blame him. The guy has been try harding the last 10 years. He deserves his rest. GL to him in the future !
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 07:29:20
December 03 2015 07:27 GMT
#656
Only 33 pages? Disappointing! Bisu retired and we get 56 pages and over 1000+ comments when he was terrible at SCII (minus that roro and shine back to back win XD). Having said that, Flash's SCII career hasn't been the greatest from what I recall reading. Though I stopped watching the game several years back, I remember tuning in just in time to see his IEM Toronto games (Ro8 or so and onwards) as well as KT's PL win against SKT where Flash attacked Parting right before he had storms off 3 bases using an SCV pull. A bit funny to think that I managed to catch all his major SCII achievements purely by chance lol.

Not really surprised that he retired though. Flash is a mechanical beast. Anyone who has seen his BW game against type-b would agree with that and being unable to differentiate himself above the rest using pure mechanical must've been rough for the former BW superstar. Other part of it is that he originally became a progamer for his love for BW so it makes me wonder what he felt towards SCII and such. Hard to become the best at a game that may not hold the same feelings as the original.

Though he knows that his future is uncertain, I'm sure that it must've been quite the relief to decide to retire and think about what to do next. Personally, I hope to see him stream on Afreeca before deciding on his next step. Some flash vs Bisu would be amazing to watch and even more so if Jaedong decided to eventually retire (cmon Jaedong, your ASUS ROG victory was enough, come back already! lol). Either way, best of luck to Flash! I'm sure he has quite a lot of things planned out ^^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 07:33:30
December 03 2015 07:32 GMT
#657
On December 03 2015 10:39 LessDuEt wrote:
A lot of unnecessary worship on this thread...

but GG WP Flash


This is how you identify someone that discovered Starcraft 2010 with the release of WoL.

It's like starting to watch basketball when Michael Jordan was playing in Washing Wizards and then going "unnecessary worship" when he finally retires.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
December 03 2015 07:33 GMT
#658
This seals it.. MVP will go down as the greatest Starcraft player of all time.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
December 03 2015 07:44 GMT
#659
On December 03 2015 16:33 SuperFanBoy wrote:
This seals it.. MVP will go down as the greatest Starcraft player of all time.

Indeed, that one map he won.
don't wall off against random
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 03 2015 08:12 GMT
#660
On December 03 2015 16:33 SuperFanBoy wrote:
This seals it.. MVP will go down as the greatest Starcraft player of all time.


Hmm.. An interesting opinion.
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