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rotta
5586 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:11 CynicalDeath wrote: Lilbow's lack of professionalism was embarassing to say the least, second only to NaNiwa's probe rush That game was shit for the birds, Lilbow's were the biggest of his career. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:15 rotta wrote: That game was shit for the birds, Lilbow's were the biggest of his career. tbh i found Naniwa's performance at IEM Katowice worse than his probe rush by far | ||
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SlammerIV
United States526 Posts
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
I hope all that lotv training helps and we see solid results after beta from him. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:12 Nebuchad wrote: Ten minutes before Lilbow-Life, Inno said in his interview that he didn't prepare a lot for Blizzcon. Were you offended? Ten minutes after Lilbow-Life, Rain lost a warp prism in a way that displays he's been playing a lot of LotV. Were you offended? Did you watch Innovation play those games? Somehow I suspect Innovation's standard for "not a lot" is a whole lot more than Lilbow. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:17 SlammerIV wrote: Do we really need this much focus on this topic, ok he lost, ok maybe he made some stupid comments afterward, ok he should have prepped some better builds but cmon guys lets not be so negative. In the vast scheme of things its not a big deal, even if he showed "respect" it would not have made a difference. It certainly was poor build choice and poor prep by lilbow + bad PR afterward but can we just move on already? Forgive me for singling you out but it's posts like this that just fucking infuriate me. Let me state first as everyone knows I don't think Lilbow deserved his place but he qualified under the system given. Yesterday Lilbow took a massive dump on the game, embarrassed himself and embarrassed every person who dreamt of seeing a foreign hope at Blizzcon, went on social media and basically smiled about it and people STILL defend him because "It wouldn't have mattered anyway". Maybe that's true, maybe if he practiced HotS more Life still cheeses him out and 3-0's him.....or MAYBE he pulls a Polt and wins a couple of maps and makes Life sweat, or MAYBE somehow, someway he pulls a Hydra and wins. We'll never know because he couldn't be bothered to even fucking TRY. And people say "Move on" because "it's not a big deal", it's statements like that that are the reason this scene is fucked as it is, because people just don't treat people pissing on the biggest tournament of the year as a big deal or worse support the guy because he might have a chance at Dreamhack. Again I'm sorry for singling you out for the basis of my rant, but posts like that piss me off | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12169 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:21 Caihead wrote: Did you watch Innovation play those games? Somehow I suspect Innovation's standard for "not a lot" is a whole lot more than Lilbow. Of course. Innovation looked great. But andeh was telling me that the problem wasn't that he lost to Life and looked bad, it was his attitude. This is obviously not true, otherwise Innovation saying what he said in his winner interview would have offended him as well. | ||
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KrOeastbound
England59 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:27 Nebuchad wrote: Of course. Innovation looked great. But andeh was telling me that the problem wasn't that he lost to Life and looked bad, it was his attitude. This is obviously not true, otherwise Innovation saying what he said in his winner interview would have offended him as well. Two completely different situations | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:27 Nebuchad wrote: Of course. Innovation looked great. But andeh was telling me that the problem wasn't that he lost to Life and looked bad, it was his attitude. This is obviously not true, otherwise Innovation saying what he said in his winner interview would have offended him as well. Saying "I didn't prepare a lot" after thrashing a world class opponent after a match could either be bad manner or modesty or mind games or just not knowing what's appropriate to say other than giving a generic answer, that's pretty different from saying it before you play the set for a recorded segment then going on twitter after the fact to spout the same nonsense. | ||
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CrimeCat
Germany43 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
They all dropped down in results because the rest of the world had moved on to HotS and then...... Oh wait nevermind, Innovation became the best Terran in the world, Symbol got two ro8s in Korean lans and top 4 at HSC, Curious got a top 4 at IEM NY beating sOs and Flash (who was in good form at the time), Parting became one of the best Protoss, Taeja continued being stronger than ever, Soulkey became the best Zerg, MC got WCS EU 2nd place twice and Roro got two ro8s in Korean/WCS Final leagues. Nope, guess there isnt any historical evidence of results downsliding because the competition had a few more months of practice. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
I think this is more of a case of foreign player fans projecting their insecurities and lofty expectations onto their only hope, and taking his decision far too personally. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
Player who qualified by winning a charity mickey mouse tournament doesn't practice because he knows he has zero chance. Believes he can get ahead by switching to the expansion, like all the foreigners did back at the end of WoL, only to get demolished by Koreans who came to IEM having played a handful of HotS games. Remember Grubby and all the other foreigners who had switched to completely HotS months before it came out, because the game was going to be so much better and they, having had a head start compared to Koreans, were going to be relevant and competitive? Yeah... | ||
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loft
United States344 Posts
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
apathy is not the easy way out in this case, it's being angry with him as someone who has nothing to do with him. if you're a fan though, i can understand. | ||
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
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Dingodile
4133 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:39 stuchiu wrote: I mean this has all happened before. The last WoL tournament was GSL where the top 8 was Innovation, Symbol, Curious, Parting, Taeja, Soulkey, MC and Roro. They all dropped down in results because the rest of the world had moved on to HotS and then...... Oh wait nevermind, Innovation became the best Terran in the world, Symbol got two ro8s in Korean lans and top 4 at HSC, Curious got a top 4 at IEM NY beating sOs and Flash (who was in good form at the time), Parting became one of the best Protoss, Taeja continued being stronger than ever, Soulkey became the best Zerg, MC got WCS EU 2nd place twice and Roro got two ro8s in Korean/WCS Final leagues. Nope, guess there isnt any historical evidence of results downsliding because the competition had a few more months of practice. There was an actual DH qualifier in the beta. I can't see any of the names of the Blizzcon participant's besides Lilbow's in the section "qualified". Somehow there is an immidiate payoff for playing LotV before the others here that you kind of don't mention, no? | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:47 Big J wrote: There was an actual DH qualifier in the beta. I can't see any of the names of the Blizzcon participant's besides Lilbow's in the section "qualified". Somehow there is an immidiate payoff for playing LotV before the others here that you kind of don't mention, no? All 15 other participants wouldn't have been allowed to play in the DH qualifiers because they're Koreans anyway. Plus the payoff for winning at Blizzcon has the potential to be bigger. | ||
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